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Post by WildMan on Nov 1, 2009 0:52:27 GMT -5
cruiser66 Thanks, thats a pretty nice set of bits & holders. The price isn't to bad ether.. But I'll have to see how bad my next parts list stretches my scooter parts budget.. ;D
David Sr.
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Post by WildMan on Nov 1, 2009 14:18:00 GMT -5
Yo, Dawg's, Here's the beginning of my Spark Plug Thread Repair Process.. Pulling the swing frame out from under trike, should prove much easier than pulling body skin off.. David Sr.
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Post by als01seville on Nov 1, 2009 20:08:40 GMT -5
Dwild62, When I first looked at the 1st picture I did not recongize that it was the Trike rear end:) WOW! you DA MAN!! And all this just for a stripped spark plug hole. I hope I don't strip it taking it off and then put in the Iridum Plug. Alleyoop
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Post by WildMan on Nov 1, 2009 21:03:07 GMT -5
Alleyoop Only took an hour or so to get swing frame assembly out. I got the new thread insert in the head, but I'm afraid of it. I decided it's going to give me nightmares, so I decide I'm going to just get another head for the BEAR..
David Sr.
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Post by als01seville on Nov 1, 2009 21:11:57 GMT -5
Dwild62, Yep, if your not sure that it will hold and cause more damage if it blows out I don't blame you. I would probably do the same thing and would not trust it. mine started to act up today after a very nice morning mile run. It will run up to 6000 rpms and thats all. I updated the Vairator Power with the info and what i did to see if anyone has any ideas. Alleyoop
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Post by kenb6656 on Nov 1, 2009 21:29:35 GMT -5
How do I put a picture in to a post?
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Post by WildMan on Nov 1, 2009 21:53:41 GMT -5
kenb6656 Upload your pics to photobucket. Copy & paste IMG Code from photobucket to your reply post..
David Sr.
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Post by kenb6656 on Nov 1, 2009 22:19:20 GMT -5
Here is a picture of my new Ice Bear Trike if this works
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Post by WildMan on Nov 1, 2009 22:56:04 GMT -5
kenb6656 Is that the Burgundy, or red? I wanted red, but the only option I seen was Black, Burgundy, Blue, White, I got the Blue, cause I thought the Burgundy was going to be darker.. If that's Burgundy, it's brighter than I thought it would be.. I like it!! Wish I had that color..
Did you get it from Scooter Dynasty?
David Sr.
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Post by als01seville on Nov 1, 2009 23:16:37 GMT -5
Kenb6656, That is a SHARP COLOR!! Way to go. Now your a TRIKER like us:) Dwild62, Got the plug out and to me doesn't look to bad at all. Here is a picture of it. Alleyoop
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Post by WildMan on Nov 1, 2009 23:21:38 GMT -5
Just ordered a NEW complete head assembly (well, - cam) w/ gaskets for $65. shipping included, price is almost good enough to be scarey..
David Sr.
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Post by WildMan on Nov 1, 2009 23:26:04 GMT -5
Alleyoop Kinda hard to tell w/ your choosen back ground, but I think it looks pretty good to me..
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Post by als01seville on Nov 1, 2009 23:26:56 GMT -5
Dwild62, Well now that you have complete access to the complete engine why not Get it Hot:) And yes that price for all you got is scarey. Alleyoop
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Post by als01seville on Nov 1, 2009 23:31:10 GMT -5
Dwild62, yes, looking at the plug it is not WHITE it has sort of a light brown color to me. Alleyoop
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Post by WildMan on Nov 1, 2009 23:46:52 GMT -5
Alleyoop Well the head was on ebay, but still that about 50% off retail.. I had to grab it though.. I'll keep you posted, we'll see what I got for my money when it arrives..
David Sr.
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Post by als01seville on Nov 2, 2009 5:05:02 GMT -5
Hi Troops, Well I put in the Iridium Plug and the Performance Coil. I also took the Variator off and put in all the 13G Sliders like I had before. I also tapped the shaft a couple of times and put the Variator back on and tightened the Nut down with a socket wrench 1st and then hit it 2 times with the Impact Wrench. Started it up and goosed many times it to make sure the Variator nut won't come loose and let it run for a while. Shut it down and all was nice and cool. Hope tomorrow it doesn't rain so I can give it a try. I think trying all those different weights and hitting it with the impact wrench to many times pulled the shaft and tightened the internals and caused the binding or something. I think I will change the oil tomorrow before I test it out just to be on the save side. I have ridden it on colder days with no problems and did not loose power or rpms. Alleyoop
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Post by als01seville on Nov 2, 2009 13:06:04 GMT -5
Hi Troops, Well I changed the oil this morning and there was gas in the oil very watery. I turned the kill switch to off and hit a couple times to get more oil out of it. Put fresh oil, I use Castrol GTX 15-40 Diesel and tested again and the same thing throttles up to 40mph at 6000 rpms and thats it no more I am WOT. I am setup just like before when it would do 54mph at 6800 rpms. Could it be I am running really rich or throttle really not opening all the way the engine sounds fine no rattles clacking or weird noises are anything starts up great idles great throttles up to 6000 rpms fine and stops there. Would a bad CDI cause something like this. Alleyoop
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Post by WildMan on Nov 2, 2009 14:36:09 GMT -5
Alleyoop Hay, I just happen to think.. Check your air filter!! I didn't think to tell you cause up until recently, I had thought you had gotten rid of that cheesy air canister & filter.. The first test ride I had w/ the BEAR after the PDI, it wouldn't go.. Well I didn't trust that thin azz foam it had, so during the PDI, I cut a thicker one from foam filter material that's for lawn mowers. Well come to find out, the BEAR didn't like it, it was too restrictive, so I took it out & it was OK.. So I kept thinning foam down till it would work.. That was working, but after awhile it'd start messing up again (just a little), well I took it out & discovered foam was wet & smelled like gas, so I washed & dried it put it back in, & it'd be good again, after awhile it'd do it again.. Well I don't know if it's just to close to carb or still a little restrictive, but what it is, is the foam keeps loading up w/ gas & chokes it out, because every time I clean it it's fine.. That why when the plastic canister crumbled apart I built the Velocity stack, to put on a better air filter & get it away from the carb.. So, I'll bet it's your air filter..
David Sr.
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Post by als01seville on Nov 2, 2009 19:43:00 GMT -5
Dwild62, thanks bud, I will give that a shot, clean the foam and dry it out and hope thats all it is. If it is I will order a Uni Filter and velcoity stack so the filter will be away from the carb just as your doing. Here is what it looks like: Alleyoop www.buggypartsnw.com/home?page=shop.browse&category_id=8
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Post by kenb6656 on Nov 2, 2009 21:23:42 GMT -5
I am not sure what color Ice Bear calls it, I would say it is RED. I put in a new 6mm zerk fitting, and pumped a lot of grease into the differential. I am still having starting issues, sometimes it seems to have a dead battery, try it again later and it starts fine. It still has more vibrations than I think it should. I opened up the cvt cover, and all seems to be working correctly. I can hit about 95 klics on the chinometer. I would like to find a good scooter mechanic here in Los Angeles, that will work on chinoscoots. I don't have the time to tinker with it, I want to ride when my schedule permits, not work on it. I guess I am used to my Kymco's (People S 250) quality, or even the quality of my antique Honda Elite 125. Hit the starter it starts and runs smooth with out any issues. The Ice Bear is a learning curve.
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Post by JR on Nov 2, 2009 21:38:43 GMT -5
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Post by als01seville on Nov 2, 2009 22:35:46 GMT -5
Dwild62, Took off the Filter!! They call that a Foam Filter WOW! Well it was dirty and smelled from gas, but I made another foam filter. Also noticed that the plastic cup I THINK they made it wrong:) I would think the foam filter would fit inside the plastic cup but NOT:) Alleyoop
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Post by als01seville on Nov 2, 2009 22:53:06 GMT -5
Dwild62, I want to change the Gear Oil you said the filler screw is behind the Sprocket in front. One screw looks like its holding the case together the other one looks like its about 1/4 inch or so from the edge of the case Is that the Filler Screw? Or since you have your Back half off would you take a picture of it. Thanks Alleyoop
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Post by WildMan on Nov 2, 2009 23:30:47 GMT -5
Alleyoop David Sr.
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Post by als01seville on Nov 3, 2009 0:01:19 GMT -5
Dwild62, Thanks thats the one I thought it would be. Thanks a bunch Alleyoop
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Post by als01seville on Nov 3, 2009 17:40:26 GMT -5
Hi Dwild62, Well I took off the Variator and belt and degreased the bins that hold the rollers, degreased the rollers, both face plates and the pulley plates on the clutch. Used the belt stuff to clean the belt and slapped it all back together. Also took out the filter and made another one and put that back on. Took it out for a test run and STILL will only get to about 6100 RPMS at WOT.
No hesitation, no sputtering or anything it get to 6000 rpms at WOT and thats all she will go. I can keep it WOT and it wil not climb any higher. Alleyoop
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Post by WildMan on Nov 3, 2009 18:11:13 GMT -5
Alleyoop Has your speed dropped as well? What does your fuel filter look like? I mean, like how full is the filter. Maybe you won't be able to tell, being where it's probably located.. There's a possibility that you're getting a air lock.. But thinking about it, your float valve in carb, might be sticking (or a piece of dirt), causing a flooding like issue.. It's likely related to why you had gas in your oil. I'd say it all fuel system related, which doesn't surprise me being it's a gy6 engine...
I replace the stock fuel filter w/ a clear & just a little larger fuel filter, I also relocated the fuel filter to near fuel pump, so I could see it & get to it w/ ease..
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Post by als01seville on Nov 3, 2009 18:27:18 GMT -5
Hi Dwild62, Yes, my speed has dropped accordingly 45 mph at 6000 rpms. On the street there is a little hill not much of one but and up and down. On the way down it will pick up to almost 50mph and around 6500 rpms then I have to get off the throttle cause a light is coming up.
My fuel filter is right in front of the CVT cover and I can get to real easy and see it real easy as well. I is a clear fuel filter and its not one of the pointed ones its more of a little fatter fuel filter. Alleyoop
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Post by WildMan on Nov 3, 2009 18:56:56 GMT -5
Alleyoop I think if you investigate the gas in the oil, you'll fix the RPM & speed issue.. I'd look over the float valve (carburetor), or like someone already said, maybe gas is leaking by the fuel pump diaphragm & into the vacuum line, back into the intake.. But I still think I'd check the float valve first, cause I think thats more likely than the other, & it's the less expensive place to start..
I'll see if I can find the float hight measurement for you, then make your self a float Gage out of cardboard or a piece of rigid plastic, & reset the float level.. This would eliminate your float from the equasion..
David Sr.
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Post by als01seville on Nov 3, 2009 19:06:39 GMT -5
Dwild62, Thanks, maybe I will just order a new Carb, they are $59.95 and put it on and have the old carb to mess with. Tomorrow I will change the oil again and see if gas is getting in there still. It sure is wierd runs up to 45mph like a champ then just sits there. It also will not idle unless I hold the throttle a little open until it gets a little warm then it idles just fine. Alleyoop
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