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Post by appianway on Jul 21, 2008 7:42:23 GMT -5
Beware:
Did not return phone call to buy one. Imagine if you had a problem.
Emails I sent on Saturday failed at being delivered.
"This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Unable to deliver message to the following recipients, due to being unable to connect successfully to the destination mail server. sales@mrscooter.com"
$100 isn't worth the hassle of these LIARS. Read their 'about us' page and the utter lies it contains. Couldn't they at least use a spell checker?
I believe that, eventually, they are going to take these money orders or certified checks and RUN. $2,000 X 100 people= $200,000.00 CASH
Also, from previous Thread Posting:
"1) There is no BBB record on Mr Scooters.com 2) Mr Scooters claims to be a company in Las Vegas. the Nevada Secretary of State has no record of any such company 3) There is no 'white pages' listing for Mr Scooters 4) The phone number listed on the website is an unlisted cell phone number from California 5) A 'whois' search on the internet ends up with a company somewhere in England. 6) An "online company" doesn't need a credit card machine...since they can't swipe the card anyway 7) Visa merchant credit card rules are clear that you shouldn't be charged for an item that hasn't shipped 8) The address of Mr Scooters is a mail forwarding company
Are they honest...I don't know...but anyone who is mailing them a certified check needs professional help."
I completely agree with these facts.
I ordered mine from evosales and I am keeping a journal to inform readers of my experience. I will include pictures when it arrives.
GOOD LUCK to all.
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Post by glassvial on Jul 21, 2008 9:34:08 GMT -5
This rant has already been posted (and replied to) in the dealer forum once in the mrscooters thread and does not belong here.
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Post by rodeojones on Jul 21, 2008 9:52:44 GMT -5
Just thought I'd mention that I've had no problems getting email responses with mrscooters.com. I usually have a response within a day. However, responses to emails I sent this weekend were received within 6 hours.
And to comment on the info you posted that came from another thread: - First, not every business is listed with the BBB, so not being listed means nothing. - The Nevada Secretary of State not having a record of them means nothing as well. Unless they are incorporated in Nevada, no record would exist in the state. - White pages list residential phone numbers. Businesses are located in the Yellow Pages. - Why does the type of phone they use matter? With cell phones many people are eliminating land-lines all together (myself included). - I'm not even sure what a "whois" is. - Actually, an online company could use a credit card machine to manually enter the numbers. - The point about Visa is absolutely correct. - Mrscooters.com is an online drop-shipper working out of their apartment. If it were me, I wouldn't want to give out my actual address either. Lets say I list my real address online and something goes wrong with a customer's order. What's keeping that customer from coming to me in person to harass me? Using a mail-forwarding company also means that someone is always present to accept and sign for packages. It's actually a very smart way to do business if you're operating out of your house.
I agree that paying via cashier's check/money order is risky. But to jump to conclusions and say they are eventually going to take everyone's money and run is a bit ridiculous. Where's your proof? If you read through the info about mrscooters you'll see that there are quite a few who paid via cashier's check and got exactly what they paid for.
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Post by jimk on Jul 21, 2008 12:09:06 GMT -5
Beware: Did not return phone call to buy one. Imagine if you had a problem. Emails I sent on Saturday failed at being delivered. "This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Unable to deliver message to the following recipients, due to being unable to connect successfully to the destination mail server. sales@mrscooter.com" $100 isn't worth the hassle of these LIARS. Read their 'about us' page and the utter lies it contains. Couldn't they at least use a spell checker? I believe that, eventually, they are going to take these money orders or certified checks and RUN. $2,000 X 100 people= $200,000.00 CASH Also, from previous Thread Posting: "1) There is no BBB record on Mr Scooters.com 2) Mr Scooters claims to be a company in Las Vegas. the Nevada Secretary of State has no record of any such company 3) There is no 'white pages' listing for Mr Scooters 4) The phone number listed on the website is an unlisted cell phone number from California 5) A 'whois' search on the internet ends up with a company somewhere in England. 6) An "online company" doesn't need a credit card machine...since they can't swipe the card anyway 7) Visa merchant credit card rules are clear that you shouldn't be charged for an item that hasn't shipped 8) The address of Mr Scooters is a mail forwarding company Are they honest...I don't know...but anyone who is mailing them a certified check needs professional help." I completely agree with these facts. I ordered mine from evosales and I am keeping a journal to inform readers of my experience. I will include pictures when it arrives. GOOD LUCK to all. This has been hashed out in other threds, numerous times. Also, You wont get an email to sales@mrscooter.com.. The email address is sales@mrscooters.com with an s at the end of scooter.. IF you send email to the wrong address, don't expect them to return your messages... Also, as I've stated before, I never have trouble getting in contact with them. Either through email or telephone.. I think most people are trying at the wrong time of day.. As been stated before, it's easier to get through if you call after 5pm EST.. Also, if you email, make sure your sending it to the right address, and wait for at least 24 hours before you get panicky.. If you start sending email after email because they didn't answer you in 20 minutes, They are going to get a bit annoyed, and probably will save you for last.. Not that it's right, but, you might do the same thing if someone is bombarding you with messages demanding information or else you'll report them as a fraud.. That kind of stuff don't make for good business.. You have to be as good a business person as them that you do business with. If you want respect, and want to be treated fairly, treat the seller with the same respect and fairness.. I think we can all agree with that. Keep in mind, I am not saying you bombarded them with threats of calling the BBB, or anytihng like that, but I know from talking to him, and other sellers, that they get allot of that. People will complete their online purchase, then 6 hours later they are emailing wanting shipping times, then 1 hour later they are wondering why they haven't gotten a response, then 4 hours later they threating them with attorney general calls, and BBB because they haven't gotten a confirmation of shipment, and it's the busy time, and they hadn't even gotten halfway through their previous days orders yet.. So, please, be patient, and respectful, and you'll get better responses. ) JimK
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Post by biggenz2 on Jul 21, 2008 13:31:55 GMT -5
any updates on people that got an scooter from mrscooters. thanks
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Post by harrywr2 on Jul 21, 2008 14:34:48 GMT -5
A "whois" usually returns the name and address of the website owner. www.whois.netTo get a yellow pages listing one has to pay to be listed...to not get a white page listing on a land line one has to pay not to be listed. If one is doing business in Nevada one must register www.roninsoft.com/states/nv.htm#II(b)"A foreign corporation (one formed under the laws of another state or a foreign country), must obtain a certificate of authority before it may legally conduct business in Nevada" Take a look at Mr Scooters website traffic - www.quantcast.com/mrscooters.comThere wasn't any two months ago. Based on network traffic I would guess that Mrscooters has been open for business for 2 to 3 months...which explains the lack of a BBB record. 22 years ago I was a business that had only been in business for 2 or 3 months. Everyone has to start somewhere...fair enough. Nobody paid me up front for anything which was reasonable as I had no History that people could verify. MrScooters.com has no verifiable history that I could find. 80% of New Businesses that good honest hardworking people start fail in the first year. Here are the Alexa details on Mrscooters.com www.alexa.com/data/details/main/Mrscooters.comCould the Alexa info be wrong? Sure. I'm not making any comment on anyones personal integrity.
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Post by dean on Jul 21, 2008 14:40:10 GMT -5
Maybe you are confusing them with Mrs Cooters
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Post by HarmZway on Jul 21, 2008 15:00:56 GMT -5
any updates on people that got an scooter from mrscooters. thanks My MC-54-250B should be shipped tomorrow. Tracking # on Wednesday. Paid by cashiers check on the 18th. I will keep an update on the OTHER thread! I've always gotten reasonable response times. Especially from his other email info@lintopowersports.com
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Post by HarmZway on Jul 21, 2008 15:01:27 GMT -5
Maybe you are confusing them with Mrs Cooters ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by jimk on Jul 21, 2008 17:08:00 GMT -5
A "whois" usually returns the name and address of the website owner. www.whois.netTo get a yellow pages listing one has to pay to be listed...to not get a white page listing on a land line one has to pay not to be listed. If one is doing business in Nevada one must register www.roninsoft.com/states/nv.htm#II(b)"A foreign corporation (one formed under the laws of another state or a foreign country), must obtain a certificate of authority before it may legally conduct business in Nevada" Take a look at Mr Scooters website traffic - www.quantcast.com/mrscooters.comThere wasn't any two months ago. Based on network traffic I would guess that Mrscooters has been open for business for 2 to 3 months...which explains the lack of a BBB record. 22 years ago I was a business that had only been in business for 2 or 3 months. Everyone has to start somewhere...fair enough. Nobody paid me up front for anything which was reasonable as I had no History that people could verify. MrScooters.com has no verifiable history that I could find. 80% of New Businesses that good honest hardworking people start fail in the first year. Here are the Alexa details on Mrscooters.com www.alexa.com/data/details/main/Mrscooters.comCould the Alexa info be wrong? Sure. I'm not making any comment on anyones personal integrity. Yes they could be wrong, and they are.. That is outdated whois information... The whois database lists it as a private registration. This is the newest information, It was public until fairly recently, but because they have been getting inundated with questions regarding why they are listed as being in the UK, they chose to go private, so crazy people who don't get their scooter in 2 days don't hunt them down. The information on whois is as follows: www.networksolutions.comVisit AboutUs.org for more information about MRSCOOTERS.COM AboutUs: MRSCOOTERS.COM Registrant: Mr Scooters ATTN: MRSCOOTERS.COM c/o Network Solutions P.O. Box 447 Herndon, VA. 20172-0447 Domain Name: MRSCOOTERS.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: Mr Scooters sy34u6gb839@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com ATTN: MRSCOOTERS.COM c/o Network Solutions P.O. Box 447 Herndon, VA 20172-0447 570-708-8780 If you have a legal claim, they will divulge the information as to their address and contact information as long as the legal paperwork is submitted to them. Otherwise, they will be a laison between you and mrscooters. But, I have no trouble contacting them ever. They always answer, and have always been VERY nice and easy to talk to... I must admit, I was hoping my scooter would have shipped on Friday, he told me it should ship friday, but now I am also looking at tuesday or wednesday.. But I understand, they are just the sales guys, and they really don't know what the shipping guys are going through... So, I'm not real pressed, as long as it gets shipped soon, I'm fine...
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Post by goblue62577 on Jul 21, 2008 18:22:51 GMT -5
Seems like Tuesday is going to be the shipment day. Me, you and at least one other person has said MrScooters has indicated Tuesday would ship with tracking # Wed.
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Post by HarmZway on Jul 21, 2008 20:59:05 GMT -5
Beware: I believe that, eventually, they are going to take these money orders or certified checks and RUN. $2,000 X 100 people= $200,000.00 CASH Yes, let's steal everyone's money, run from the feds for the rest of our lives on that $200,000. Or, legally make that in a year (gross income), and have a nice life. Hmmmm.
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Post by sandman on Jul 21, 2008 21:28:12 GMT -5
Does anyone else find it a bit odd that there are so many posts trying to trash a new drop-shipper that is undercutting all these other dealers' prices and moving a lot of inventory, but who has yet to have a legitimate complaint other than shipping delays or slow communications? Im not generally a conspiracy theorist, but I would not be at all surprised to learn that many of these posts are coming from other online dealers/ drop-shippers.
Not to say that a bit of skepticism isnt healthy... I still wouldnt send him a money order. But still, that person that was posting with several screen names (un4gtble et al.) just seemed to be more intent on trashing Mr. Scooters' rep than any disgruntled customer rightly should.
I'm not pointing fingers at the OP of this thread in particular, its just that all these new threads trashing MrScooters over the last few days struck me as odd, thats all....
Am I the only one?
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Post by r0b on Jul 21, 2008 21:57:40 GMT -5
Good Grief.. can a mod ban an IP maybe?
This guy is so interested in bashing a seller that he is willing to have his threads closed, his username banned, register as a new member and renew the assault.
Perhaps he would be happy if everyone ran over to evosales and purchased their scooters from that seller?
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Post by appianway on Jul 21, 2008 23:46:31 GMT -5
Some good points everyone. I'm sorry but ANY business that has a customer wanting to buy a product and doesn't even bother to return a phone call, is not worthy of my $. JimK I guess it does help to send e-mail to correct address . Start up company or not, sounds like they need to staff more people. As far as taking 200K and running, people rob banks for a small fraction of that. The run down apartment complex imagery makes you wander? Feel free to check my IP, I have never posted any comments on Mrscooter before. As far as Evosales.com, I am in no way affilated with them. I just ordered my scoot on 7-19. Good or bad, pray to God good, I will post an accurate journal of my experiance with them. too bad we can't, most of us anyway, buy one locally! Best of luck to all in this adventure.
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Post by sandman on Jul 22, 2008 0:34:01 GMT -5
Check out the other MrScooters thread that was locked. You will see that there was one nutcase that was trying very hard to trash his reputation and drive customers away. So, you may just have epically bad timing, but either way I am suspicious. You obviously are familiar with the other MrScooters threads, since you quoted one, but you still thought it necessary to start an entirely new one ripping on him because he didnt return an email that you sent to the wrong address and didnt return your phone call (I'd be amazed if you managed to leave a message, his mailbox has been full for weeks). So basically, you started a new thread that contributed nothing new, and continued with the ongoing trend of bashing MrScooters and trying to soil his reputation based on issues that really pale incomparison to the crap other online dealers are known to pull. So you'll forgive me if I am a bit skeptical.
Of course, I have a pending order with MrScooters, but Im not a moron and I did my research. All in all, he seems quite legit. He has already called me TWICE to discuss the specifics of my order (I am out of town and so taking delivery a few weeks later). So far I am pleased with MrScooters. I dont expect a lot. I am buying from a drop-shipper and I set my expectations accordingly. Shipping delays are beyond his control, and he is quite busy. Busy enough, Im sure, not to call every missed number on his caller ID. If anyone has an ACTUAL problem with MrScooters, I'd love to hear about it, but I am tired of people trying to rip him apart for what are (for me at least) non-issues.
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Post by soulkutz on Jul 22, 2008 1:24:51 GMT -5
lol.. all in all i have enjoyed reading what ppl are saying about mrscooters.. i commented on them on the other thread.. all i ever stated was buyer beware.. mostly becuz their website is deceptive in one certain area. They claim to have a b&m in las vegas.. i drove to the address and there wasnt one.. however, i emailed them to ask if i had gone to the wrong area, and received and email promptly stating that their las vegas address is simply a mailing address and they ship out of california.. when i asked about a b&m in california, again i received a quick response saying they only do mail orders. so they do lie about that aspect of their company. however, it sounds like everybody is getting what they pay for, so as to why everybody wants to attack them is beyond me. i think they lie and decieve to simply make them look bigger and better than a two person team doing orders. But i would probably lie in that aspect too lol.. as long as everybody is either gettin the scooter they order, or getting their money back, its not really a big deal. however, most ppl forget about the after the sale facts... that could be a whole other story.. they are too new to rate in that aspect. if i were going to buy a roketa from a drop shipper, i would likely order from them as long as i felt comfortable enuf working on my own scooter and finding parts.. which im not so i wont.
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Post by upstate240 on Jul 22, 2008 1:31:47 GMT -5
Hoping my order is going out tuesday too. lol I still have not gotten a reliable shipping date nor tracking.
Wouldn't surprise me to get tracking info a day or two before the freight truck arrives.
I will post my final results in due time. :-)
I hate that so many consumers are so spoiled with the "but it now" syndrome. Folks make purchases and think that everything today is instant.
in the early days of mail order (pre-internet) it was not unusual to wait 4-6 weeks for your widget to be delivered. Mail order dealers would run ads and collect the orders and then place the massive orders with the widget drop shipper a few weeks later. Sometimes the widget wasn't even made at the time of order.
I even have this same issue to deal with in my own online business. I let folks know ahead of time that each device is hand made one at a time and that shipping will take 5-10 business days from the date of order. Even though I do that... there are still some folks who email hours after their order and inquire about shipping times then issue a dispute after they hear no response in an hour. I have even had folks issue a dispute with paypal and demand a more expensive product for the price of a lesser expensive one. What? lol
So to those that want it now... please be patient. Myself and a few other will report back as Mr Scooter delivers our scooters.
And to those doom and gloom negative nancys who want to predict the worst... The law of attraction will bring YOU what ever energy you put into the situation. If that is what you see happening then you may want to buy from a B&M for your own safety. lol... Not to sound like a mystical guru but... You get what you think you will.
Some folks hold the mindset of "Internet dealers always screw people over" ...or... "I always get screwed over and ripped off." Well those kind of folks will attract that kind of dealing no matter what or who...based on their own expectations. Then they want to publicize it to the world. lol
Two words for you folks who always see the worst coming... "The Secret" ... watch and learn to use the power of attraction for you.
Personally... I don't mind a couple of week wait to save the $600 vs. buying local. I look forward to seeing my mrs cooters scooter show up. lol.. that almost sounds obscene...
Updates as I get em. ~Jason
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Post by HarmZway on Jul 22, 2008 2:25:50 GMT -5
As far as taking 200K and running, people rob banks for a small fraction of that. The run down apartment complex imagery makes you wander? Yes, I always hear about people making six figure incomes robbing banks all the time!
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Post by mrpickem on Jul 22, 2008 6:08:20 GMT -5
I ordered a 54-150 this past Friday for 1399. I was going to pay with money order. I indicated in the order that I would mail the money order on Monday 7-21. The Asian owner or employee called me on Sunday and said that the Roketas could not be registered in the state of Florida. He asked if I still wanted it. Of course I said to cancel the order. My point is, if this is indeed a scammer...why would he make that phone call? Still hunting for my 1st scoot
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Post by glassvial on Jul 22, 2008 8:15:45 GMT -5
Roketas can't be registered in Florida? Wha??
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Post by upstate240 on Jul 22, 2008 14:29:17 GMT -5
Can't be registered in FL? Odd.... But good point!
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Post by glassvial on Jul 22, 2008 17:49:47 GMT -5
Sounds like nonsense to me. I've heard of not being able to register in CA because of CARB and such, but never heard such a thing about FL. Most dealers list Roketas as 49 state legal, at least.
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Post by jimk on Jul 22, 2008 18:01:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I believe they can be registered in Florida, Just did a search, and it seems many in florida have no problem registering their scoot... I think maybe someone had some problems registering one, probably because they didn't know how to, and didn't have the right stuff.. So, then they complained to him, and reversed the charges, so now they aren't selling ro Florida.. Another one that does this is www.brandsplace.com/... They got too many complaints, because I guess supposedly Florida is difficult to register with. So, they just don't sell to florida anymore... If you want it, and want to play with the DMV, I would go ahead and order it... Just be prepared for some fun getting it registered, maybe someone here from FLA can chime in with some info...
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Post by "Big Guy" on Jul 22, 2008 18:03:43 GMT -5
Roketas can't be registered in Florida? Wha?? And who told you that? We have at least 20 members in FL that ride Roketa's. Bad info... -Rich
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Post by "Big Guy" on Jul 22, 2008 18:07:05 GMT -5
...because I guess supposedly Florida is difficult to register with... Jim, I think the problem was that drop shippers were sending MCOs and BOSs that were not notarized if I remember right. Most know better by now... -Rich
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timmyt
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Post by timmyt on Jul 23, 2008 2:49:51 GMT -5
Beware: Did not return phone call to buy one. Imagine if you had a problem. Emails I sent on Saturday failed at being delivered. "This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Unable to deliver message to the following recipients, due to being unable to connect successfully to the destination mail server. sales@mrscooter.com" $100 isn't worth the hassle of these LIARS. Read their 'about us' page and the utter lies it contains. Couldn't they at least use a spell checker? I believe that, eventually, they are going to take these money orders or certified checks and RUN. $2,000 X 100 people= $200,000.00 CASH Also, from previous Thread Posting: "1) There is no BBB record on Mr Scooters.com 2) Mr Scooters claims to be a company in Las Vegas. the Nevada Secretary of State has no record of any such company 3) There is no 'white pages' listing for Mr Scooters 4) The phone number listed on the website is an unlisted cell phone number from California 5) A 'whois' search on the internet ends up with a company somewhere in England. 6) An "online company" doesn't need a credit card machine...since they can't swipe the card anyway 7) Visa merchant credit card rules are clear that you shouldn't be charged for an item that hasn't shipped 8) The address of Mr Scooters is a mail forwarding company Are they honest...I don't know...but anyone who is mailing them a certified check needs professional help." I completely agree with these facts. I ordered mine from evosales and I am keeping a journal to inform readers of my experience. I will include pictures when it arrives. GOOD LUCK to all.
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Post by timmyt on Jul 23, 2008 4:20:27 GMT -5
i have a succes story from MrScooters.com if anyone is interrested in the details feel free to ask but i will say a couple of things yes theyre legit and yes the best way to contact is email and i always get my return emails the next day from 12:30 to 3:30 a.m. cdt which would be from 1:30 to 4:30 p.m. in china which gives me reason that this is an asian couple that are doing this dropship business from overseas which through my research their are several internet dropship companys that have different names but the same phone number that is just something to think about and also the lady juliette @ mrscooters worked with me on the price so be patient and everything will work out fine
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Post by jimk on Jul 23, 2008 8:12:32 GMT -5
yes, let's hear about your positive experience...
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Post by fireburster on Jul 23, 2008 8:35:29 GMT -5
I just order from Mrscooters last night. Order 349 in processing. I ordered the Fiji 150cc. Cant wait since my town flooded horribly in June and my 8 min bus ride now is 45+min to my jobs new location. I will update when i know more.
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