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Post by als01seville on Dec 26, 2009 21:28:02 GMT -5
Hey Zugzug, Not a problem, The Ice Bear Trike is Not a Ground Up Trike Build. Actually the Trike Bears WERE JUST TWO WHEEL scoots. The frame still has the left over hookups that were for the two wheeler. It even has were the kiskstand was. They just took a two wheeler made the Trike Carriage and took off the rear wheel and found where to hook up the Trike Carriage to. So answer to your question is YES the Rear Carriage can be put on just about any Two wheeler.
Alleyoop
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Post by wolfhound on Dec 26, 2009 23:25:03 GMT -5
Alley Oop, as usual you come up with a good idea. I think that most of the trike kits for scooters run around $3000.00 installed and the local trike shop will do that for you. It
is still just a thought. Before I do anything I have to determine the problem with the 150-8
rear end.
ZugZug, no need to butt out. It could be done but it would take far more expertise than I
could muster. the problem is the Trike rear end so I would not want to transfer it or put the
Tank 250 in the trike. I really like the 150-8 Ruckus design with the 150cc engine. If I were skilled enough I would rather dump the troublesome trike rear end and convert to a single tired scoot rear end.
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Post by zugzug on Dec 26, 2009 23:34:04 GMT -5
Ah, I thought maybe you were just looking for a larger engined trike. Heres a link www.usawholesalescooters.com/trike.htm If you look halfway down or so they show a trike kit to convert a 2wheel to a trike. (just thought it might be useful for someone who might interested) It supposed to be a bolt on system. |
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Post by greenhorns on Dec 26, 2009 23:37:03 GMT -5
how do i change variator
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Post by als01seville on Dec 26, 2009 23:59:33 GMT -5
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Post by greenhorns on Dec 27, 2009 1:14:19 GMT -5
thanks tryna find a nice helmet
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Post by greenhorns on Dec 27, 2009 1:15:49 GMT -5
alley what the first thing i should dowhen my bike gets here
after the tires battery mirriors
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Post by als01seville on Dec 27, 2009 1:18:37 GMT -5
Zugzug, On that link you put up, do you know that the Rear Axle they show is what is on our trikes:)
Alleyoop
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Post by greenhorns on Dec 27, 2009 2:03:33 GMT -5
should i switch too 10g weights on my prodigy variator or leave 11g
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Post by als01seville on Dec 27, 2009 2:04:11 GMT -5
Greenhorns, To get it out of the crate you will need some help. Also to put the tires on you will need some help. If you have a Siossers Jack that will help a lot the reason the jack folds up to about 3" and that is enough to get it under the axle so you can left one side at a time to put the wheels on.
Then once you have it out of the steel cage, setup your battery and put it on charge. Then you can start putting on the windsheild, mirrors etc.. check for loose bolts and screws and tighten. Fill up your tires with the recommended tire pressure, fill only up to10% of MAX PSI. The front tire is different PSI than the Rear Ones so check your tires for the MAX PSI. If it says 25 lbs fill 10% less about 22lbs etc. Change the oil because the oil in there is crap I used 10w-40 Castrol Diesel to break it in. Hopefully by this time a few hours have passed and the battery is ready. Put the battery in turn the key and check your lights, turn signal, break lights etcc.. Now put some gas in it and try to start it. It will take a few attempts because it has to get the gas up to your carb and fill the carb bowl. Crank it about 15 seconds at a time do not hold the start button until it starts, it will overheat the wires and may burn something out.
Good Luck
Alleyoop
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Post by greenhorns on Dec 27, 2009 2:21:27 GMT -5
now on the prodigy variator should i switch to sliders or leave the 11g rollers in
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Post by wolfhound on Dec 27, 2009 7:35:50 GMT -5
ZugZug. this looks like a dealer who is trying to be everything to everybody but says very
little about the products at first glance. Dont know about their trike kit but it seems to be
way underpriced. Of course, it is a Chinese kit. Most of their trikes look like they come off
the same assembly line as the Ice Bears and probably do. (The Roketa trikes appear to be the same as the IB.) The fancy yellow reverse trike is already being offered by Roketa. This is a
dealer that I personally would avoid, way too much hype in the ad program for me. They have every thing except a chorus line and that might be next. Just my opiniated opinion.
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Post by zugzug on Dec 27, 2009 8:36:14 GMT -5
Yeah, I get the same impression. Its the only place I have seen the trike kits though. I guess its the same as most of the dealers out there, Roll the dice and see how lucky you can get.
Edit: a quick check of the BBB. They have them rated a F but I think its kinda BS. Probably since they are not a member. They been in business since 1998 and only have 10 complaints and they have addressed most of them.
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Post by wolfhound on Dec 27, 2009 8:41:32 GMT -5
You are pretty much right, ZugZug. I would like to see more detail on the assembly of this
unit when converting the scoot to a trike.
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Post by zugzug on Dec 27, 2009 9:05:34 GMT -5
Zugzug, On that link you put up, do you know that the Rear Axle they show is what is on our trikes:) Alleyoop So would it actually be a straight bolt up kit like they claim? |
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Post by wolfhound on Dec 27, 2009 10:09:05 GMT -5
ZugZug, i dont know. I have been unable to find anything on their site other than the pix of
the unit. no pricing, no further descriptions that I could find. A really useless web site.
If you found any more than the pix tell me how to do it. The BBB rating is intersting as is the
fact tha they have been in business for 11 years.
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Post by wolfhound on Dec 27, 2009 10:31:35 GMT -5
Well, just spent some time, out of curiosity, running a BBB report on Ice Bear. Using the
info off their web site as well as the name Pacific Rim International I found that BBB has no rating
on them and can not find them under the name given in Onteario, CA. They have only
been operating in the country since 2006 according to their own home page. Has anyone
run a BBB check on them and am I using the wrong name?
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Post by wolfhound on Dec 27, 2009 10:58:30 GMT -5
RE: Ice Bear. I was running the wrong name and not giving enough information.
For a BBB report run it as Ice Bear ATV, Ontario, CA 91761. BBB gives them a B
rating. This is a very good rating and indicates that there has been no complaints
against them with BBB. This is good.
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Post by zugzug on Dec 27, 2009 12:14:49 GMT -5
Yeah, I couldnt find much other than pics. They do have thier address and phone listed though. Maybe Ill call them next week if I get the chance. We have a lot of drivers off but Im not one of them so Im probably gonna be very busy.
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Post by als01seville on Dec 27, 2009 16:24:18 GMT -5
Greenhorns, Start a thread of your own for your questions on your trike, so the questions you are asking are for your situation and do not get lost in this thread.
Alleyoop
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Post by als01seville on Dec 27, 2009 16:30:21 GMT -5
Hi Troops, The conversion is not just a bolt on. The scoots frame has to be modified to be able to bolt on the conversion kit. They have to fabricate and weld onto the existing scoot frame the mounting pieces that the two wheel axle hooks onto. And some scoot frames are a little different so there is some work there.
Alleyoop
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Post by zugzug on Dec 27, 2009 16:38:43 GMT -5
Good to know. Im not ready for a trike yet but its good info. Im not very good with it but I do have a flux core welder.
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Post by wolfhound on Dec 27, 2009 17:31:15 GMT -5
Alley Oop: Found that the nuts to adjust the reverse tension are not so hard to get to once
you lay down on the floor and go for it. Kept playing with it til reverse does not 'clunk' but forward still is giving 3 or more 'clunks' when I stopped for the day. Will try to find time tomorrow to play with it some more but have a sharpening order to get out and inventory
to start for my teeny tiny company so it may be a few days. I still want to know what Quan
says concerning the problem. Once I am rolling the 'clunking/shuddering' goes away and
she works ok at stops. Seems to be worse when it is cold. Since reverse is not clunking I
feel that, using your instructions am getting somewhere and learning a bit about wrenching.
Thanks.
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Post by als01seville on Dec 27, 2009 17:36:48 GMT -5
Hi Wolfhound, I just started a new thread called "SCOOTER TRIKES IN GENERAL" and I started it explaining the Reverse Mechanism. Hope I explained it clearly and hope it helps.
Alleyoop
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Post by WildMan on Dec 28, 2009 21:16:35 GMT -5
OK Dawg's
The BEAR has awakened, & is coming out of the shop (1 tank of gas later).. Got to get get gas, gas gauge is flashing.. Going to go try out my 150cc SNOW SHOES... Alley, better watch out for that blue streak!!
David Sr.
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Post by wolfhound on Dec 28, 2009 22:16:21 GMT -5
David, I do not trust the gas guage on any of my scoots. Always carry a gallon in the top trunk just in case!!! You can get a good little 1 gallon gas container at Wally World. Enjoy
the snow, all we get is 30 degrees ands rain/
Ally Oop, have checked out the new thread. well done.
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Post by als01seville on Dec 28, 2009 23:22:43 GMT -5
Dwild62, Great to hear the "BLUE STEAK HAS COME OUT OF HIBERNATION". Ok, but tell us what was the cure.
1. Put the filter closer to the carb
2. To much Air not enough fuel
3. To much fuel
4. what jets finally work.
Give it up David Sr. So we poor slobs can learn form your Science Project.
Wolfhound, thanks for the kudos on the new thread.
Alleyoop
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Post by WildMan on Dec 29, 2009 12:43:54 GMT -5
Alleyoop
Well, lots of air.. Stainless steel Filter Tube 38mm x 5" w/ 44mm 2 Stage Uni-Filter, used #40 Pilot Jet & #130 Main Jet.. I now realize that 90 % of my problem was, not pushing it at the top for a long enough period of time to get a stumble, so I was going past the jets that would create a stumble, so that's why it seemed that all the jets were giving nearly the same results...
Took the BEAR for a spin last night in a snow storm ;D ;D... Had about 4" of heavy snow in the driveway, plowed snow covered roads, 30 mph + winds, & light snow falling... Considering the conditions, I thought it wet vary well, it pawed it's way through the snow in the driveway like a BEAR, couldn't get much speed in the 30 mph + head & side winds (a couple of times I thought I was going to get blown into the ditch at maybe 40 mph), though plenty fast for a trike in a snow storm.. I had the BEAR doing may be 50 mph + for maybe 3 miles or so, it handled it quite well I thought, thought it made me just a little nervous, being it was dark, & it's only been 15 months since my Disabling Motorcycle Crash, I don't know, I suppose some might say I'm suicidal ;D.
Then my stock muffler broke, AGAIN!!!
David Sr.
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Post by wolfhound on Dec 29, 2009 12:55:49 GMT -5
Definately suicidal or masochistic. Take your pick. Sounded like a fun ride to me.
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Post by als01seville on Dec 29, 2009 14:59:43 GMT -5
SHAZAMMMMM!! Thats awesome David Sr.,Yes you are "SUICIDAL" trying it out in those conditions, now don't be getting hurt on us.
I can't believe It took a #130 Main Jet and #40 Pilot Jet just for the 5" Pipe and Uni Filter WOW!!
Now how and were on the Original Muffler Break, so we watch out for that situation, or was it the way youy mounted it?
Alleyoop
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