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Post by hakuin on May 15, 2009 21:54:58 GMT -5
Took it out for a spin today. Got to see parts of my County never before visited (by me). 93 miles on the odometer. Couldn't resist tweaking the throttle above 60 "just to see what was there", and there's more after 60! Got to keep it gentle for awhile, I know, but wow!  Temp gauge was showing it running hot, and I kept adding coolant to the reservoir...after consulting the service manual, I learned how to coax air out of the system, and did so (there were some bubbles). Tomorrow I'll see if that did the trick. |
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Post by smokerider on May 15, 2009 23:15:49 GMT -5
man, that doesn't sound good. we've never gotten ours over two bars on the temp gauge. watch it close!
also, if yours is anything like ours, the gas gauge stays on full for quite a while, then when the bars start disappearing, they go pretty fast. when i rode it back down to the dealer, i had another 15 highway miles south off the interstate to the dealer. as i approached the exit i could swear there had been two bars. but as i headed south, realizing i had just passed the last gas till i got to the town ahead, i looked down at the gauge, and it was on the LAST bar! i immediately turned around and headed back (maybe a mile) and as i rolled into the station, the last bar disappeared and a warning light (that i didn't know was there) came on. if it didn't have efi, it would be fun to take a gas can along to see how much is left after the last bar goes down. i'm not sure i wouldn't have made it, but i'm glad i turned around.
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Post by harrywr2 on May 16, 2009 9:06:26 GMT -5
man, that doesn't sound good. we've never gotten ours over two bars on the temp gauge. watch it close! Sounds like the dealer didn't burp the cooling system. It's just something that needs to be done on all water cooled bikes. Don't burp it you'll end up overheating. |
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Post by hakuin on May 16, 2009 9:53:06 GMT -5
The burp apparently did the trick! Running @ 1 to 2 bars on a short trip in stop & go traffic!
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Post by CCProf on May 16, 2009 11:48:55 GMT -5
Smokerider - my gas gauge stays high thens drops quick like yours. At 2 bars left, it only takes about 1 1/2 gallons. Did it to me the other day. BTW - gas was $2.59, going up, up, up.
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Post by smokerider on May 16, 2009 15:46:27 GMT -5
 whew!!! i was gonna feel terrible if you'd gotten a lemon after we built it up so much! i hope you're out bonding this weekend. yeah, prof, for all intents and purposes, 2.08 gallons is 2 gallons. and if i remember correctly, it took 1.8 gallons that day. and i remember thinking at the time that i thought it held around 2.4 gallons, so i probably would have made it......................riiiiiiiiiiight! when i got home and started refiguring everything, i came to the realization that i only had about a fourth of a gallon left......and at 50-60mpg (which is all i get), i might have been walking it the last mile or so.  i'm glad i turned around. i just filled up my wife's SVT focus which uses 91 octane. for some reason, at this particular station, premium is 30cents higher than 89 gasohol. as was this case, if i have a half tank of the good stuff, 89 at $2.04 was good enough. i know i could have driven a mile away and probably gotten 91 gasohol for around $2.15, but i was lazy.
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Post by harrywr2 on May 16, 2009 21:18:04 GMT -5
Went to a place called Paradise on Mt Rainier...elevation 5,400ft...North passes still closed so had to take the South Pass...230 miles round trip. Plenty of snow above 3,000 feet still.
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Post by smokerider on May 16, 2009 23:42:43 GMT -5
is it like paradise there, harry? ;D
you've touched on it before, but nothing like other detailed reports you've made in this thread. altitude with your fuelie scooter. out there in my mind, is a possible trip to colorado either on or with the bikes (selling momma on riding there might be tough). i'm particularly interested in your impressions of the bike at altitude.....and getting there. does it feel pretty much the same as it does around town at home? it seemed like you intimated that if desired, it was always capable of gaining speed uphill, but curves or cresting a ridge were the things that slowed you down. even driving a car in the mountains is a different experience for us flatlanders. but, having power on demand is important in any driving situation. i'm curious what it's going to be like for you at 10,000ft. i'm hoping no difference. please share your impressions.
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Post by harrywr2 on May 17, 2009 11:02:53 GMT -5
Smokerider...the only limiting factor I've found is my nerves. There really isn't any difference in performance between zero and 5,000 feet. The highest I can get on a paved road here is 6,000 feet and the road is very twisty and the drops off the side are a long, long way. So I'm not pushing things.  I'd like to take this ride if I can find the time...as least days 1 thru 5. tinyurl.com/cbr2010-6As far as Paradise...it's cold up there still. The ride is gorgeous though. |
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Post by CCProf on May 17, 2009 15:19:43 GMT -5
Harry - You're making me green with envy. All that scenery and long rides too. What kind of protective clothes do you wear for the cold? The day I test rode mine, it was 27 degrees and I wore insulated hunting coveralls and my heavy winter parka. That's not fun riding. When it's below 55 I usually wear leather chaps and a heavy leather jacket and that's ok but I don't think they would do too well at that height and temp.
No ride tonight. Temps dropping into mid-30's and winds are getting nasty. Maybe tomorrow.
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Post by harrywr2 on May 17, 2009 15:35:04 GMT -5
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Post by CCProf on May 17, 2009 15:41:15 GMT -5
Thanks. Idle thoughts from driving the cage 7 hrs visiting the kids this weekend. If Japanese bikes are rice burners, does that make Chinese bikes bamboo bombers. How about Vespas? Pasta powered or ravioli rockets? What about us - kimchi kickers?
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Post by hakuin on May 17, 2009 22:00:41 GMT -5
As I recall from my short visit to Korea decades ago, a liquor distilled from rice was called soju (sp?). As was demonstrated to me, it would burn if you touched a match to it(!) Maybe soju-speeders?
I am confident that the burping process has rectified my temp-issues. Went on a 50 mile cruise this morning, and never did the gauge go over 2 bars (and as cool as the air was, it often was at 1 bar). It's all good!!
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Post by hakuin on May 19, 2009 17:52:40 GMT -5
Since my dealer lost my scooter's owner's manual before I bought it, I am awaiting another. In the meantime, can one of the esteemed members assist with this? I note that the last bar on the fuel indicator is marked "res"...is there a reserve tank/valve somewhere I cannot see, or is this merely a manner is implying the "almost out of gas" thought?
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Post by harrywr2 on May 19, 2009 18:10:20 GMT -5
I note that the last bar on the fuel indicator is marked "res"...is there a reserve tank/valve somewhere I cannot see, or is this merely a manner is implying the "almost out of gas" thought? It means almost out of gas,supposedly 1.5 liters left. |
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Post by hakuin on May 19, 2009 23:17:33 GMT -5
Thanks, harry. I filled up at that lowest bar, and the tank only took 1.46 gal.
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Post by smokerider on May 19, 2009 23:58:31 GMT -5
wow!, harry. that's quite a mouthful you bit off there. if you ended it in denver, though, you would never have gotten out of the mountain country that is already your back yard. i gotta admit, that drive up through montana and the idaho panhandle to washington, is one of the most beautiful drives ever. if you were to do the whole thing, is that a round tripper? i noticed there was no return route. that would take 3 weeks to a month to do, and that's assuming no problems along the way.
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Post by CCProf on May 20, 2009 5:27:32 GMT -5
hakuin - your gas gauge is pretty much consistent w/ mine. Mine shows 2 bars and then takes 1 1/2 gal. Looks like another round of high gas prices. Topped off the cage on Monday and regular was $2.35. 92 octane was $2.65.
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Post by harrywr2 on May 20, 2009 8:04:54 GMT -5
wow!, harry. that's quite a mouthful you bit off there. That's the route for the 2010 Scooter Cannonball Run. There is a sticky thread on it in the 150cc section. So I can't take credit for the route planning. As a once in a lifetime ride it is a good route. If I had two weeks free I would probably head south west thru new mexico and arizona then come up highway 101 to ride home. Highway 101/Pacific Coast Highway is another good 'once in a lifetime' trip. |
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Post by CCProf on May 20, 2009 12:22:31 GMT -5
Hey guys. It's a beautiful day here but getting hot - maybe 80. Told my wife I was tired of yeardwork and taking a break. Went for a quick ride - 27 miles round trip. That's the farthest I've gone since I got it. Country roads were great. Wow was it nice to roll back on the throttle and go from 35 to 60 going uphill instead of losing speed. Stopped at Walmart for some things we needed. It's fun to watch people checking the scoot out and wondering what it is.
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Post by harrywr2 on May 20, 2009 12:56:20 GMT -5
Managed to warp my right front disc rotor. Must have been on the way down off of Mt Rainier...lots of places where ice cold snow melt was running across the road on a long downhill run. $70 for a replacement...Ouch.
Ordered a new belt...will be hitting 5K miles soon...figured time to at least have a spare...$190...ouch...ouch.
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Post by jim63 on May 20, 2009 13:33:36 GMT -5
The PCH would be an outstanding ride, my wife and I did it in a car from LA to Tacoma. Reading your post I also should probably get myself a belt or 2, for my SYM it is a scheduled time change at 8000 miles, I am over 6000 now. I hope they are not that expensive wowsie $190, ouch....no s***! We should be able to ride our scooters here in the Puget Sound area through Memorial Day weekend if the weather guys got it right. Hoping Mama's schedule allows for a overnight trip this weekend. I have a sister in Richland, WA and my wife has sister near Walla Walla, WA but these would be 3 day deals I am thinking, 2 travel days and one for visiting. Would be nice rides though, long but nice.
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Post by harrywr2 on May 20, 2009 14:10:50 GMT -5
I have a sister in Richland, WA and my wife has sister near Walla Walla, WA but these would be 3 day deals I am thinking, 2 travel days and one for visiting. Would be nice rides though, long but nice. SR 410/123 From enumclaw to richland would be a nice ride...doesn't look like Chinook Pass will be open by memorial day weekend though as they just got 8 more inches of snow yesterday. |
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Post by hakuin on May 21, 2009 22:56:43 GMT -5
Well, I just don"t get my gas gauge at all yet. I rode it to the last bar on the indicator, filled the tank, and it took only 1.51 gallons!! That last bar represents 25% of tank capacity??? Maybe expansion due to warm temps played a small part??
Afterthought: First service recommended @ 500 or 600 miles?
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Post by CCProf on May 22, 2009 6:40:24 GMT -5
Hakuin - my manual says 1000km which would be roughly 600 miles. The gas gauges are not especially accurate from my experience. BTW - did you get a battery tender with yours? Mine seems to drain the battery down quickly. My dealer installed one free when I bought it and I highly recommend you keep it well charged.
Read your manual carefully when you get it. The translation from Korean is a riot!
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Post by harrywr2 on May 22, 2009 8:39:39 GMT -5
BTW - did you get a battery tender with yours? Mine seems to drain the battery down quickly. My dealer installed one free when I bought it and I highly recommend you keep it well charged. Read your manual carefully when you get it. The translation from Korean is a riot! Headlight 4.5 amps Brakelight 2.0 amps Position lights 1.0 amp Total draw before instrument panel, ecu, cooling fan = 7.5 amps OEM battery = 8 amps. Biggest battery I could find to fit in the battery compartment 12BS rated at 10 amps. Also replaced the brakelight with an LED. Haven't used my battery tender in 6 months. |
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Post by CCProf on May 22, 2009 11:25:00 GMT -5
Harry - you're the scoot mechanic guru. I haven't had a chance to get my hands dirty yet - at least not on pleasant stuff. My daughter's getting married out in Vegas in 2 weeks so we have that to look forward to. Then we're having a reception back here in July. My wife has all kind of projects that need down before then.
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Post by harrywr2 on May 22, 2009 23:35:10 GMT -5
Circumnavigated Mt Ranier Today. SR410 opened at noon. Unfortunately Stevens Canyon isn't open..so had to make a bit of a detour. 180 miles round Trip Enumclaw to Enumclaw...another 60 miles round trip from my house to Enumclaw.
Bike did fine...didn't have any problem holding 60+ MPH at 4,500+ feet.
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Post by hakuin on May 23, 2009 10:50:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, Astroprof. No, sadly I had to buy my battery tender, but that's not a huge expense. Better to have it and not worry...now to get it hooked-up. Again, I apologize for having to ask, but until my manual gets here...
How do I access the battery? I think I can sort-of see it inside the panel above the muffler, but not sure if the bottom nut and rubber strap will free the battery or some other device(!)
"Circumnavigated Mt Ranier Today..." Congratulations, Harry! Wow, what a ride that must have been.
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Post by harrywr2 on May 23, 2009 11:18:06 GMT -5
How do I access the battery? I think I can sort-of see it inside the panel above the muffler, but not sure if the bottom nut and rubber strap will free the battery or some other device(!) Pull the body up. Unbolt the two bolts on either side of the carb/EFI access hatch and the two front bolts holding the passenger handrail on. Then tilt the body back just like the hood of a car. They even include a little 'hold up' stick. If that ain't enough room to work then unplug the turn signals in the back and the brake light harness which is towards the front of the body on the right side and just slide the entire body off. |
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whew!!! i was gonna feel terrible if you'd gotten a lemon after we built it up so much! i hope you're out bonding this weekend.
i'm glad i turned around.
