Sym Citycom 300i Review + Maintenance

[wr125]

I think my sliders are 19gm...but I have not put them in yet.

Bike is running great!

[rovoul]

Apr 25, 2012 20:06:00 GMT -5 chanka said:

Hi , Rodrigo , i am from Santo André ,São Paulo please , tell where to by the rollers ...... i want to make my City more fast too , but i want more speed on highway , should i buy 16 , 17 or 18 g ? any help will be appreciate ....

abraços !!!! Muito feliz com a City !!

Hi, the lighter the roller, the faster's going to be the 0-100 .. losing some final speed.

I'm running on 17gr, but I have already bought a 16gr set (waiting for it to arrive)....

I've bought here: www.drpulley.info/shop/index.php?language=en&&XTCsid=g0g3vlhnfjogn1a5oeje9rl7a0

SR2522 .... then you choose the weight.

you can e-mail me rodrigo.ultramari @ gmail.com

abraços

[Kiwiscoot]

This was what I did for lower RPM at highway speeds.
scootdawg.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=27109

There is only so much you can do with sliders, a JCosta variator will be the next step for speed & acceleration IMHO
advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=780204

Dr Pulley HiT Clutch for fast pull away.

www.silverwing600.com/t1518-new-generation-dr-pulley-hit-clutch

good to see so many happy owners.
kiwiscoot

[rovoul]

Kiwi.

your City is 2008, right? HOw much is the weight of your stock rollers? 18gr or 22gr? I've read somewhere that the first ones used 22gr rollers.... is that correct?

[chanka]

Thank's Rodrigo , my City is now only 145 km ..... i will wait a little more ......Kiwi , congrats on your posts man ...... very nice and very informative , teh City is a good surprise , i will never imagine it will be such a good quality ......
;D

[Kiwiscoot]

rovoul - 25mm OD X 22 width X 19g. IMHO it's good, from standstill open throttle wide open and revs climb quick to 6000rpm, stays there while speed rises rapidly. I think 18g would've done the trick too, maybe with quicker pull away.
happy Citycomming
Kiwiscoot

[rovoul]

Hi Kiwi.

my stock rollers were 18gr...

I've tryed 18gr Pulley sliders and felt no difference from stock.

I'm running 17gr sliders now, and it's a little bit better, but I have already bought a 16gr set.

I don't worry about lowering rpm for long cruises, as I'm a urban rider only....

But I assume I'm really considering a J Costa variator....

I have a 22gr sliders set (NIB) that I bought wrong.... I think I'll try to sell all of them 16, 17, 18 and 22 and buy the J Costa

[suchascoot]

I find that sliders in the Citycom behave as slightly lighter rollers. Comparing a bike with 18g stock rollers with a bike with 19g dr pulley sliders, it seemed as though acceleration and top speed were identical. We did not compare rpm at the same speeds. 18g sliders behave like slightly lighter rollers. Slightly better acceleration but also higher rpm at cursing speed.
I had a HD200 that the same weight sliders as stock made an improvement on both acceleration and lower cruising rpm (some feat). I had heard that the variator in the HD200 is a Dr Pulley, which may explain why the sliders worked so well.
I don't see where Dr Pulley makes a variator for the Citycom, which uses a TGB as stock, so I'm considering trying a Malossi Multivar variator. Anyone try one of these?

[Kiwiscoot]

May 2, 2012 13:54:53 GMT -5 suchascoot said:

I don't see where Dr Pulley makes a variator for the Citycom, which uses a TGB as stock, so I'm considering trying a Malossi Multivar variator. Anyone try one of these?

Go for JCosta variator - from what others say it's the best variator for acceleration & speed.

[rovoul]

I'm waiting for the 16gr set to arrive. If I don't like them, I'll use them until July. I'll be in Germany at that time and the idea is to bring a full exhaust from Arrow ...... maybe, i bring a JCosta among with the exhaust, hehehe

[rovoul]

Kiwi, You're using the GIVI D650ST screen, right? What can you tell about it? is ot good? I'm 1,86m (6'1") ..... how about the noisy on high speeds? Is it true that the City has its final speed reduced?

I have seen this one:
euronetbike.net/isotta/scooters/sym/citycom-300/windshield-high-protection-full-attack-for-citycom-300.html

in your opinion which one is the best?

[Kiwiscoot]

The Givi screen does not extend to the edge of the handlebars. This cause water from the screen to run down right on to one's gloves. My gloves are cheap Pakistani leather (lots of little bits sewn together) which leaks. The euronetbikenet screen extends to the edge of the handlebars which is much better. I have no experience of the quality of these screens.

My Givi screen cracked also in the first year of use. The front mount broke which caused the screen to flex back at highway speeds, this caused stress between the other mounting holes which caused a stress crack. I drilled the crack out to stop it from spreading. It is quite thin (2 - 3mm) for such a big screen and is only fixed at the bottom thru holes in the bottom of the screen. It scratches very easy compared to the factory screen even tho I'm very careful when I clean it. I was a bit disappointed as it is not a cheap item & I though it would be higher quality.

As far as weather protection it is excellent ( apart from dumping the water on my gloves). I am 1.95m (6'4.5) and I can ride with my visor open & no wind in my face. It does have a bit of wind resistance & my fuel consumption goes up by about 0.2l/100km in winter as I ride with the factory screen in summer. The fuel consumption rise in winter will be due to the scoot running on the choke setting longer too, so not all due to the bigger screen. I would never have been able to ride every weekend last winter 380km at night with temperatures -2degC at arrival at my destination. Bottom line is I will not be without it as I ride year round almost everyday.

this man had experience with an Arrow exhaust on his Citycom
scootercommunity.com.au/members/racey-stacey.aspx
he said it rev'ed better, but I think he did not do the foam high-flow air-filter mod. I did contemplate buying it off him, but in the end I could not justify it. I'd be interested to hear what your experience of it is.

Sounds like you'll have a super-duper Citycom at end of all the upgrade, maybe the fastest Citycom on the planet. Happy scooting
Kiwiscoot

[suchascoot]

Hi,

I not interested in the Jcosta variator for a couple of reasons. Anyone try the Malossi?

[Kiwiscoot]

May 5, 2012 10:15:27 GMT -5 suchascoot said:

Hi,

I not interested in the Jcosta variator for a couple of reasons. Anyone try the Malossi?

what puts you off of the JCosta variator?

[suchascoot]

Hi,

I've seen reliability issues with the Jcosta and when the unit fails, you lose more than just the unit itself. This is my daily ride, so reliability is the first priority well above a slight increase in performance. Also, the Malossi uses the standard roller/slider configuration, which would be easier and or cheaper to fine tune with components from a wider array of manufactures.

[rovoul]

Hi

I bought the Givi windscreen. My first impression was "wow, it's huge!!!"

first rides today and I'm starting to like it. :-)

I rode on the road a little and I felt the vaccum behind the screen pulling my helmet into it, but as I only ride it in the town, I also liked to ride with the helmet opened.

I'm thinking about cutting some few centimeters from it, but leaving it higher than the original one, will decide it in the next days.

I always liked to tune my engines ..... and maybe after it's warranty be over, maybe I try this small toy on it www.ebay.com/itm/MOTORCYCLE-QUAD-RHINO-Turbo-BIKE-SEADOO-Small-IHI-RHB31-/110695313833?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19c5f471a9&vxp=mtr#ht_1234wt_1185

[rovoul]

in time,

I have pulled out all the paper from the air filter.

I'm waiting for this K&N filter www.ebay.com/itm/290681041140?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 to arrive and I'll cut and adapt it to the original black filter structure (the part where the paper is)

[Kiwiscoot]

May 7, 2012 16:05:15 GMT -5 suchascoot said:

Hi,

I've seen reliability issues with the Jcosta and when the unit fails, you lose more than just the unit itself. This is my daily ride, so reliability is the first priority well above a slight increase in performance. Also, the Malossi uses the standard roller/slider configuration, which would be easier and or cheaper to fine tune with components from a wider array of manufactures.

I heard some of the earlier unit (3 years ago) failed with some stress cracking on the bigger scoots like Silverwing & TMax. From what I understand JCosta beefed up the material of the bell substantially to stop the stress cracking. I have heard the pins last only 15000-20000kms, but that depends on your style of riding. My guess users of JCosta tends to be in the upper performance group.
Have you heard of later units failing?

[symluver]

Hello Guys! I first of all want to thank each and every one of you for your pictures, info, and comments on this thread. This is 99% what led me to buy my 2009 SYM CityCom 300i yesterday. It has 3,700 kms on it. MINT SHAPE. This bike has never even been in the rain yet. The previous owner (i know him personally) bought it last year from a place here in Winnipeg MB, in June. The bike had sat at the dealer since 2009 and no one bought it till last year! So, actually my bike may be a 2009, but it hasnt even been on the road for 1 year yet! I also own a 1986 Honda Elite 250 as well. (It takes off faster than my SYM!) I look forward to hearing more about these scooters, and your stories. I dont know how to post a pic, but I will as soon as I can. Anyone care to share how to post a pic? Any questions you have about my scooter, can gladly be sent my way. (I dont know if its smart to buy a scooter where there is no dealer in town who sells them and services them anymore.. Im relying on the SYM reliability that I read about on here, to keep me going.

[kutch]

Brake pad question (again):

It is time (again) to replace the pads on my scoot and did a quick search for the PGO ones kiwi mentioned and found these on ebay:
www.ebay.com/itm/PGO-Disc-Brake-Pads-G-Max-250-Rear-1-set-/140510345547?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20b711b94b&vxp=mtr

They look like the same shape, and roughly equivalent, but description is lacking. Any one have a good idea? Price is cheap ($10 USD + 8 shipping).

Edit: And is there any place where can get the European Service Manual for this scoot. Have one version that looks to be American as it has the Headlight Control Unit.

[Kiwiscoot]

kutch those are the ones. Look at page 8 of this thread for a list of brake pads.
All Citycoms have the control unit as far as I know.
This is the only manual I know of. I share it here
www.4shared.com/account/dir/nJKVAmTg/_online.html

symluver - congratulations your on to a good ride now.
I suggest you download the manual & read this thread as a lot of maintenace info is buried in it.
Enjoy your ride. ;D

[wr125]

May 16, 2012 8:08:25 GMT -5 symluver said:

Hello Guys! I first of all want to thank each and every one of you for your pictures, info, and comments on this thread. This is 99% what led me to buy my 2009 SYM CityCom 300i yesterday. It has 3,700 kms on it. MINT SHAPE. This bike has never even been in the rain yet. The previous owner (i know him personally) bought it last year from a place here in Winnipeg MB, in June. The bike had sat at the dealer since 2009 and no one bought it till last year! So, actually my bike may be a 2009, but it hasnt even been on the road for 1 year yet! I also own a 1986 Honda Elite 250 as well. (It takes off faster than my SYM!) I look forward to hearing more about these scooters, and your stories. I dont know how to post a pic, but I will as soon as I can. Anyone care to share how to post a pic? Any questions you have about my scooter, can gladly be sent my way. (I dont know if its smart to buy a scooter where there is no dealer in town who sells them and services them anymore.. Im relying on the SYM reliability that I read about on here, to keep me going.

You won't be disapointed!

I've owned scores of bikes big/small/street dirt...this is the neatest all around economical transportation with a flair I've ever owned.

85mph and 75mpg all day long...tons of storage, NO vibration and great weather protection. great in the city and the highway!

[mistereri]

I think rovoul is right.

Isotta screens are all made taller and wider to protect your upper body from air buffeting and pass it over the helmet.
Any speed no buffeting that's the point.



www.euronetbike.net/isotta/scooters/sym/citycom-300/windshield-high-protection-full-attack-for-citycom-300.html

[kutch]

May 7, 2012 19:07:36 GMT -5 rovoul said:

I'm waiting for this K&N filter ... and I'll cut and adapt it to the original black filter structure (the part where the paper is)

I got a similar filter www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00062Z0FW/ref=wms_ohs_product (almost same one?) and haven't done it yet, would eagerly like your report and/or photo's.. ;D My filter almost fits in there but will have to trim some parts and then secure it in. Got ~15,000 miles (14766.0 at last fill-up) on scoot now and on original filter, so mileage is probably suffering a little.

[rovoul]

Hi, I've done a real "pig" service on that, ahahahahahaha but it's working how it was supposed to. as it works enclosured, it not necessarily needs to be beautiful.

imageshack.us/photo/my-images/205/20120528195654.jpg/

[Kiwiscoot]

Jun 13, 2012 11:27:10 GMT -5 rovoul said:

Hi, I've done a real "pig" service on that, ahahahahahaha but it's working how it was supposed to. as it works enclosured, it not necessarily needs to be beautiful.

Call it artistic flair. Who will know when they look at your beautiful scoot.

[rovoul]

Sure. I've sold my GIVI windshield for a friend and put back the stock one..... running over 80km/h, the vacuum behind the shield used to pull me strongly. Next month I'll be in Germany, and I'm really in doubt about buying or not the Arrow exhaust....

[Kiwiscoot]

did you contact scootercommunity.com.au/members/racey-stacey.aspx ? He has experience.

[unclebob1223]

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but has anyone put a seat cover on your Citycom?

[phipsd]

Symluver: Wait until you get more klicks on the Citycom. Mine was kinda slow when new; it perked up at 8000 km and now at 17000 km is way faster than when new and quicker as well. I have kept mine completely stock except for EBC pads and a new back tire.

I like the idea of stock reliability.