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Post by Kiwiscoot on Sept 24, 2010 22:45:28 GMT -5
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Post by madoka on Sept 25, 2010 20:17:19 GMT -5
Madoka - congrats, you'll love it and should give you years of "miles of smiles". SYM stands for Smile your Miles. Kiwiscoot Thank you!  I like that, Smile Your Miles. It's been a blast so far. I've gone out on 2 rides, just around the neighborhood. Getting onto a couple roads with traffic at 35-40 mph was pretty intimidating, but I did ok. It's amazing how vulnerable I felt going at that speed with no steel protecting me. It also felt strange to be on a motor vehicle without a seat belt lol. The Citycom is such a joy to ride. It putters just as happily at 20 mph as it does at 40. I am still learning to judge my speed by feel and sound of the engine. I had to dial the throttle back a few times because the scoot had plenty of go. It will probably be quite some time until I feel comfortable enough to even think about the freeway though. Loving my Citycom and soo happy! |
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Post by israelrider on Oct 18, 2010 2:10:54 GMT -5
Hi, community. I from Israel. I need help for my Citycom 300i Maintenance. Excuse me for my bad English  . One only of the my problems – Where I can to buy by Internet valve adjustment tool? But to do valve adjustment with standard spanner set impossible! Other question – Where I can to buy by Internet spare part for my Citycom 300i? If it possible to buy not original parts, and it will be reliable? Or, for reliable I need to buy original parts only? In eBay Spare Parts for Citycom is absent… My problem is in Israel Citycom parts cost is crazy large! Thanks for help. |
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Nov 9, 2010 5:34:25 GMT -5
Hi, community. I from Israel. I need help for my Citycom 300i Maintenance. Excuse me for my bad English . One only of the my problems – Where I can to buy by Internet valve adjustment tool? But to do valve adjustment with standard spanner set impossible! Other question – Where I can to buy by Internet spare part for my Citycom 300i? If it possible to buy not original parts, and it will be reliable? Or, for reliable I need to buy original parts only? In eBay Spare Parts for Citycom is absent… My problem is in Israel Citycom parts cost is crazy large! Thanks for help. For measuring the valves you need bent feeler guages - like these buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?item_ID=9512&group_ID=1123As far as maintenance goes, you will need: 1.) a belt after 20 000kms which you'll find info here scootdawg.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=200cc&action=display&thread=321472.) rollers or slider weights which you can get from www.unionmaterial.com in Taiwan 3.) air cleaner which you can make a washable one as I describe in this thread. 4.) brake pads is a problem and I get them from my dealer. what parts do you need? |
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Nov 9, 2010 5:55:22 GMT -5
Well I love this scoot, must be one of the easiest to do regular servicing. Did a 320km trip this weekend and it just ran fine with a BMW 1200GS and a Suzuki 1200 Bandit, even thru a mountain pass and rain weather, even saw 135kph on the speedo at times.  Even at that speed it returned 3.9 liter/100km feul consumption - pretty good in comparison to the BMW's 5.6liter/100km. Needed the 2400km service. Piece of cake, oil change 10 minutes. Took the variator out and cleaned the sliders about a hour with me messing about. No wear even after 12000kms! Variator face has a slight bit of wear, but nothing to worry about. You can only see it if you hold a straight edge to the variator face. Belt still good after 9000kms. The "new" washable foam air-cleaner look good too after 2000kms, seems it will only need a clean after 10 000kms. Foam transmission air-filter was dusty so that got a wash. All this without even needing to remove a panel, just the CVT cover and the air-cleaner cover. Must be as easy as it gets. The Michelin Gold Standard tires seem to last well too, 9000kms and seems to be about 50% worn at the back. Front would probably do 30 000kms by the look of it. The scoot is all good now. I would like to do a New Zealand version of a Saddle-Sore - 1000kms in 24 hours. Our roads are to twisty to be able to do 1000miles in 24 hours. The 1000kms takes about 13 to 14 hours to do. Maybe this Friday, we'll see. Happy scooting Kiwiscoot PS - I've added a GPS mount, but the photos and description will come later. |
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Post by bruelito on Nov 9, 2010 12:37:25 GMT -5
HI.
I looking for a Citycom 300i in Brazil. Here this scooter is launched in October/2010 by Dafra (this brand will assembly parts by CKD from SYM). This brand don't have a good reputation because they don't have spare parts and the assembly sometimes its not so good.
I have some doubts about this scooter, because I woul like to make some mods:
1 - I can change the bulb lamps to HID Xenon? Which bulbs are used in Citycom, H4?
2 - Another lamps wich model are used? I think to change for led's.
3 - The tires are: front 110/70-16 52P - rear:130/70-16 61P Metzeler. I will use on road , do you recommend change the tires, especcially rear I think to use one 140/70? Wich brands I can find the tires?
4 - Had some exhaust system like Yoshimura to Citycom?
5 - Somebody change the sliders for more torch or final speed? What is recommend?
I would like your help to find website with replacement and spare parts, and to make one checklist to help me to verify some points in scooter when I will get it.
Thanks!
I woul like your help to make one checklist to see when I will get the scooter.
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Nov 9, 2010 13:36:04 GMT -5
HI. I looking for a Citycom 300i in Brazil. Here this scooter is launched in October/2010 by Dafra (this brand will assembly parts by CKD from SYM). This brand don't have a good reputation because they don't have spare parts and the assembly sometimes its not so good. I have some doubts about this scooter, because I woul like to make some mods: 1 - I can change the bulb lamps to HID Xenon? Which bulbs are used in Citycom, H4? 2 - Another lamps wich model are used? I think to change for led's. 3 - The tires are: front 110/70-16 52P - rear:130/70-16 61P Metzeler. I will use on road , do you recommend change the tires, especcially rear I think to use one 140/70? Wich brands I can find the tires? 4 - Had some exhaust system like Yoshimura to Citycom? 5 - Somebody change the sliders for more torch or final speed? What is recommend? I would like your help to find website with replacement and spare parts, and to make one checklist to help me to verify some points in scooter when I will get it. Thanks! I woul like your help to make one checklist to see when I will get the scooter. 1.) yes they are H4's 2.) from memory they are BA15's - read 3.) look here for tires - scootdawg.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=200cc&action=display&thread=16772&page=8 down the page. My back ones are 140/70-16. The OEM Maxxis tires are not to bad, I got good service from them. 4.) nobody makes an exhaust for it. I did contact Zorst here in New Zealand, but it will be NZ$650 for an exhaust for it. 5.) look here for slider info scootdawg.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=27109 |
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Nov 9, 2010 20:36:31 GMT -5
This is how I made a mount for my GPS.I mounted half of a GPS mount to the bag hook of my scoot.  these are the parts: 1.) half of the GPS mount 2.) two home made rubber washers for friction between the GPS mount and the U-bracket. 3.) two washers to go under U-bracket 4.) home made U-bracket 5.) bolt to screw GPS mount to U-bracket  this is how the U-bracket mount with the two washers underneath. I used the factory bolt to do it.  another view  everything mounted with the mount in the everyday ride "out of the way" position  another view  GPS mounted with a hair band (what ladies use to make a pony tail in their hair) for safety.  another angle  another angle. The bracket is spray painted black and looks professional IMHO. This way you can still use the bag hook and it is not in the way getting on or off. The GPS runs off the Aux power outlet. I put the GPS in a plastic Ziplock bag if it rains to keep it dry. happy Citycoming....until next time Kiwiscoot |
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Post by bruelito on Nov 10, 2010 10:21:48 GMT -5
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Nov 10, 2010 16:58:52 GMT -5
Look here for other sources scootdawg.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=27109&page=2That price seems good, but NWbuggy will give you a better shipping price when you deal with them. You can order them directly from www.unionmaterial.com in Taiwan. Ethanol lowers the octane of the fuel, so I'll go with 95 octane if you could afford it. I find mine goes good with 91 & 95 octane, but ours is staight fuel with no alcohol added. 95 octane feel a little bit better. 87 I would think may be to low, but what octane rating system do you use RON or MON? We use RON here. RON ratings is always higher for the same octane fuel, so 91 MON = approx. 95 RON. Do you have your scooter yet?? Post us some pictures?? Doing a 1000km in 24 hours ride tomorrow. Go Citycom go!! ;D ;D |
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Post by bruelito on Nov 11, 2010 11:52:31 GMT -5
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Nov 14, 2010 4:54:50 GMT -5
All those will do as the RON octane rating needs to be 90 and over for the Citycom. Good luck with your shopping.
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Nov 14, 2010 5:02:33 GMT -5
I did a 1000km in one day ride with my Citycom. You can read about it here and see the slide show scootdawg.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=34600&page=1#342013The Citycom's seat must be one of the most comfortable ones. Even after a 15 hour day my backside felt good for another couple 100 kms. Fuel consumption was 62USMPG/(3.8l/100km)/(75UKMPG) at 105 km/h (120km/h on the speedo). It ran like clockwork. They sure can get the job done. SYM-Smile Your Miles Kiwiscoot |
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Post by stoepsl on Nov 17, 2010 5:56:52 GMT -5
Hi, i´m Stefan from the wild germany. In germany you can´t find any information about the Citycom.  But this thread is great! Respekt! ;D My question is: How i can adjust the headlamp? headlamp beam height control? And, my brandnew Citycom:   |
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Nov 17, 2010 16:17:56 GMT -5
Stefan, welcom and your machine looks great.
Each of the headlamps have an hex adjustment screw at the back at the bottom of the light assembly. If you turn the steering to one side you will see the chrome screw just above the front mudguard on the back of the light assembly. You can just see it using a torch. Like most of the Citycoms you lights may need adjusting up.
Have a great ride.
Kiwiscoot
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Post by stoepsl on Nov 17, 2010 22:45:29 GMT -5
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Dec 5, 2010 19:24:22 GMT -5
Well talking of lights - had the first thing fail after 26000kms - one headlight bulb and that just the afternoon before I was to attempt a 1600kms/1000miles in 24 hours.
The "Black Bullet" sports two 55w/60w Utra bright headlights now. What a difference (can recommend that) and they were tested thorougly on Saterday with the 19 hour 1460km/900mile ride.....BUT
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kiwiscoot - scooting "Down Under"
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Post by mymomwantsatrike on Dec 6, 2010 9:56:38 GMT -5
i like this scoot, but my feet are too long and wide for the stupidly small floorboard. oh well....
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Post by ootscoot on Dec 6, 2010 10:46:46 GMT -5
The new (2010) model of the Citycom has an extended floorboard - adding an additional 2" of footroom. Also had a customer customize his seat to move his riding position farther back. - looked great in black leather, and very comfortable for his 6'3".
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Post by mymomwantsatrike on Dec 6, 2010 10:54:42 GMT -5
oh well thats good news. except for that fact, i think the scooter is aces
i never anticipated how some "big" scooters can have such little space for a persons feet and how they are positioned. until i tried a few on for size, and was quite surprised at the lack of leg and foot room of many
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Dec 6, 2010 14:20:34 GMT -5
Well I'm 6'4.5" and I take number 10 (UK size) shoes and I find it very comfortable. After 19 hours (1460kms/900miles) of riding the only thing that I noticed was my knee got a bit tender and my hands got tired.
Compared to a m/c the scoot has a lot of advantages as far as foot position goes. You can ride it Harley style with your heels pushed into the front of the floorboards, normal style with your feet flat on the floorboard, feet at the back of the floorboard, sportsbike style with your feet on the passenger foot rests and with your feet up on the slanted front floor board( must admit that my legs are a bit long for that and I do it only at low speeds).
I modified my seat by cutting 3/4 of the dome out from under the seat, this gives me the ability to slide back over the hump which give one a number of different riding positions, all help with long distance riding.
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Post by angel on Dec 8, 2010 8:38:51 GMT -5
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Dec 8, 2010 14:42:09 GMT -5
angel - thanks for this. Great to know we have a place where we can get parts.
FYI - the Citycom takes standard H4 automotive headlight lamps. The 55W/60W ones are a real good upgrade and the light does not heat up more than with the standard 35W lamps.
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Post by hualalai on Dec 23, 2010 1:51:47 GMT -5
i like this scoot, but my feet are too long and wide for the stupidly small floorboard. oh well.... You need to do the seat mod that Kiwiscoot and I have done. Look for photos of the seat pan with a big piece missing (earlier in this thread). |
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Post by nzscootrider on Dec 23, 2010 6:34:03 GMT -5
Just got back from 10 weeks away. Not a glimmer of olife in the Citycom battery so will charge it overnight. While away I bought a scooter to take me around southern thailand. A Honda PCX. Only 125 cc but comfy and reliable for 2500 kms. Interesting feature called idle stop. which can be disabled. If you stop for more than 3 seconds the engine stops. Just twist the throttle and it acclerates immediately. Something to to with the alternator also being the starting motor. Sym not yet in thailand as far as I could ascertain.
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Post by madoka on Jan 14, 2011 19:32:48 GMT -5
Dear Experts,
What is the recommended service interval for the Citycom (in American miles)? I am coming up on 600 miles on my scoot, and I think it may be due for a service?
Thanks!
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Jan 15, 2011 4:12:39 GMT -5
Service intervals are every 3000km/2000miles. I service mine every 2000km/1200miles. These scoots have no oil filter( only a strainer), so all the impurities stay suspended in the oil. @only 1liter/quart of oil it is pretty cheap insurance. When mine was new I changed the oil at 150kms/100miles, then at approx 500kms/300 miles. This is to get rid of all the metal particles in the engine oil during run in. Use normal oil (not synthetic) until about 1500 - 2000miles to get the engine to bed in well. After that I would suggest you use synthetic. I would suggest you change the gear oil too and use synthetic gear oil (75W90 or something close to that). You will be surprised at how much metal particles are in the old oil. You can get the service manual here scootercommunity.com.au/files/folders/bolwell_sym_pgo/entry78422.aspxHappy "Citycom"ing. |
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Post by bowsah on Jan 19, 2011 22:12:27 GMT -5
Hi everyone, recently bought a used citycom and i'm enjoying it, been reading the forum and appreciate the information...i see no one has found an aftermarket exhaust for the citicom, scouring the nets, i found that giannelli silencers is making one www.giannelli.com/eng/prodotti/details_pro.asp?id=792 |
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Jan 21, 2011 23:23:52 GMT -5
Hi everyone, recently bought a used citycom and i'm enjoying it, been reading the forum and appreciate the information...i see no one has found an aftermarket exhaust for the citicom, scouring the nets, i found that giannelli silencers is making one www.giannelli.com/eng/prodotti/details_pro.asp?id=792Hi, nice find! Wonder what the weight of it is? (standard muffler weighs in at a whopping 9kgs/20lbs. Wonder what the cost will be?? Now that with my freeflow aircleaner should make a difference. ;D |
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Post by bowsah on Jan 29, 2011 19:04:40 GMT -5
i wonder if being that heavy of an exhaust helps with the balance or something...think i'll start upgrading and stuff once i bore of the power ;D It has me grinning everywhere i go. Finally put enough miles on my citycom to feel like i can review it. Bought it the last day of december used with 620 miles on the odometer and now i've added 600 more miles to that. It's a blast, i keep finding excuses to get on it. I'm 286 pounds,6ft 4,wear size 18 in american shoes and broad shouldered and it has enough room for me.  No problem holding itself at 80,that torque helps. In corners at 70-80 it seems to get a little skittish, but i've found if i put pressure on the floorboard on the out :-/side of the turn it goes away and tracks quite nicely. :DThat also help bring back some of the scooter agility lost to weight i've seen some complain about. I've driven it on gravel roads and up steep dirt hills and its not an issue, the balance is great. Here in Mississippi the drivers do drive rather fast 80+mph in a 55mph zone is not uncommon. They do bully a bit and ride too close on me, no respect i guess. I slow down so they can pass. But i've never felt a need for a scooter faster than this, but sometimes i get the urge to add heavier rollers, we will see. Had a really nice day in the 70s Farenheit today so lots of bikers were out, they all waved, probably not realizing it was a scooter,lol. It gets respect from the standards and the cruisers and has even raised the eyebrows of sportbikes wandering what the hell i am up to,lol. Grinning with over excitement especially since fuel is going back up, easily driving over 200 miles, wot on 10-12$ of gas... |
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I like that, Smile Your Miles. It's been a blast so far. I've gone out on 2 rides, just around the neighborhood. Getting onto a couple roads with traffic at 35-40 mph was pretty intimidating, but I did ok. It's amazing how vulnerable I felt going at that speed with no steel protecting me. It also felt strange to be on a motor vehicle without a seat belt lol.
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Even at that speed it returned 3.9 liter/100km feul consumption - pretty good in comparison to the BMW's 5.6liter/100km.
No problem holding itself at 80,that torque helps. In corners at 70-80 it seems to get a little skittish, but i've found if i put pressure on the floorboard on the out :-/side of the turn it goes away and tracks quite nicely. :DThat also help bring back some of the scooter agility lost to weight i've seen some complain about. I've driven it on gravel roads and up steep dirt hills and its not an issue, the balance is great. Here in Mississippi the drivers do drive rather fast 80+mph in a 55mph zone is not uncommon. They do bully a bit and ride too close on me, no respect i guess. I slow down so they can pass. But i've never felt a need for a scooter faster than this, but sometimes i get the urge to add heavier rollers, we will see. Had a really nice day in the 70s Farenheit today so lots of bikers were out, they all waved, probably not realizing it was a scooter,lol. It gets respect from the standards and the cruisers and has even raised the eyebrows of sportbikes wandering what the hell i am up to,lol. Grinning with over excitement especially since fuel is going back up, easily driving over 200 miles, wot on 10-12$ of gas...