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Post by katastroff on Jul 26, 2012 7:54:55 GMT -5
Up here in Quebec its helmet, plates, valid driver's licence (or you have to take a small course if you dont have a valid DL) and insurrance. The gouv. also just came up with a nice law about eshaust noises.  |
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Post by jach on Jul 30, 2012 18:06:02 GMT -5
Just read the article and the statement : The case starts with a loophole that allows habitual traffic violators back on the road, on low-powered 49cc mopeds designed to travel 25 mph. Looking at it from a slightly different perspective I think this could be a good idea. In many places in the USA you almost need a personal vehicle to survive, so why not make DUI offenders and habitual texters(I wish) earn their license back by adding 150cc or under restriction and making em all get scooters for at least a year if they want to be on the roadways. It would teach them to be better drivers too, I bet. I'll be back later when I have opened my online scooter store in anticipation of the sales rush this will cause lol. |
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Post by stephglengalloway on Aug 16, 2012 6:56:35 GMT -5
In the UK for a 50cc you need insurance, road tax (£16 a year) & bike plate.
You need a provisional licence and a CBT (compulsory bike training) certificate if you passed you car test after 2001. If before your car licence does just fine.
We get shafted in the UK when it comes to vehicles (£1.31 a litre for petrol as well!).
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Post by cheap0 on Aug 18, 2012 16:24:55 GMT -5
In this whole 9-page 4+ year thread, I saw no mention of either Alabama nor Mississippi. And for good reason! Neither state is very scooter friendly. I looked in each state's statutes online, and read the definition of motorcycle. A 49cc automatic transmission scooter would fit those definitions. And there are no exceptions made for them.
Therefore, in either Alabama or Mississippi, assume you need a motorcycle license, insurance and plate.
I'm also close to Tennessee, a scooter-friendly state, which brings up the point someone mentioned back on page 6: what about crossing state lines? The US Constitution has a "full faith and credit" clause whereby a driver in compliance with his home state laws should be good elsewhere. You can tell them that just before they impound your scoot and drag you off to jail. Maybe you'll win eventually, but at what cost?
Basically law enforcers can do what they will, with impunity. It's important to keep that in mind when dealing with them.
Most/all US states have reciprocal deals with foreign countries and provinces, also. But you might want/need a US insurance policy when scooting around the USA.
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Post by Tater on Aug 24, 2012 14:28:42 GMT -5
In Virginia, the scooter/moped must displace less than 50cc, anything more and it must be titled, registered, and insured, in addition to having a motorcycle license. And even if it is under 50cc, if you drive at any speed over 35 mph, the same thing applies. Title, registration, insurance, and motorcycle license. They can be operated on any public highway (except interstates) and riders must follow all traffic laws.
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Post by copdipper1028 on Sept 4, 2012 0:01:35 GMT -5
does anyone know the laws in the state of florda im new to scootering and i really enjoy it so i just need some help understanding it thx for the help
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Post by cheap0 on Sept 4, 2012 3:42:23 GMT -5
does anyone know the laws in the state of florda im new to scootering and i really enjoy it so i just need some help understanding it thx for the help Google knows: www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/bulletins/2003/Scooter_fact.htmAs far as I can tell, this is the current information. You can search the website further or call to verify. |
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Post by Tragik on Sept 5, 2012 4:41:09 GMT -5
muncie indiana wants to redgster all 50cc nd want the inspected thats just the city of muncie in is np plate no ins no licence Indiana all you need be at least 15 (15-18 requires, helmet & eye protection) and have a state ID The City of Muncie, Indiana requires an inspection (mainly checking all lights and VIN number) and a fee of $35 for a sticker then $15 yearly after that (thanks republicans) |
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Post by dangerbird on Sept 6, 2012 12:14:56 GMT -5
Presently, Georgia doesn't require either a driver's license, insurance, or a license plate. If either of those requirements changes then I'll see about getting a horse.
It's discouraging to see so much interest in the conversation about whether or not a driver's license is required but not any interest at all about whether it's really just a driver's license or if it's actually a government ID card. Anyway, that's why I don't have one. Not DUI, not lack of funds, just land of the free and home of the brave.
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Post by derbi on Sept 6, 2012 15:55:11 GMT -5
Presently, Georgia doesn't require either a driver's license, insurance, or a license plate. If either of those requirements changes then I'll see about getting a horse. It's discouraging to see so much interest in the conversation about whether or not a driver's license is required but not any interest at all about whether it's really just a driver's license or if it's actually a government ID card. Anyway, that's why I don't have one. Not DUI, not lack of funds, just land of the free and home of the brave. Better look into that horse then as you do need a valid drivers license to operate them in Georgia. www.dmv.org/ga-georgia/other-types.php |
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Post by dangerbird on Sept 7, 2012 11:39:46 GMT -5
Thank you for the information. I went to the location that you cited in your link. Puzzling. According to the cited rules, a scooter has an engine larger than 50cc. A moped has an engine of 50cc or less. My scooter has an engine of 50cc or less. So, according to that rule, my scooter is a moped. According to the cited rules, a scooter is capable of going faster than 30 mph. A moped isn't capable of going faster than 30 mph. My scooter will go faster than 30 mph. So, according to that rule, my scooter is a scooter. So, actually, my scooter doesn't fall within either definition. I've passed, and been passed by, many cops, of the various kinds that roam this region. So far, I haven't been stopped. What does it mean? Your guess is as good as mine. This discussion still sidesteps important issue. The important issue isn't the conditions under which a driver's license is required. The important issue is that a driver's license is required at all. That's why I'm driving the scooter at greater risk and inconvenience than would be the case if I drove a car. At the risk of being booted off of this forum, which I'd really like to avoid because it's a good forum, here's the address of one of my essays. I'd like to make it a link but I'm not sure if I know how to do that on this forum. So, you might have to type it in. Sorry about that. Anyway, here it is. Hopefully, it's a link. pharos.org.uk/Social_Contract/Principles_of_Liberty/Principles_of_Liberty.html |
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Post by millsc on Sept 10, 2012 23:23:24 GMT -5
most states require a license for a scooter car license only no insurance or helmet for 50cc and less im gonna get my motorcycle license since i plan to get a 750cc or more bike but several people ride around on 150cc scooters with no helmet or plate which is illegal but they still do it and i see kids under 16 riding on scoots in my town too its illegal but they still do it
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Post by finaljudgement on Sept 24, 2012 22:53:00 GMT -5
Hi from Arizona. Here, 50 cc you must have a m/c endorsement and license plate. It is legal on the road. A 49 cc is considered to be a toy and is not legal on the street. A true moped (ie bike with motor assistance with less than 50 cc) is legal on the street and does not need to be registered and does not need a m/c endorsement.
Also, scooters and m/c smaller than 90 cc are not required to go through emissions. A 150cc gets a five year exemption from testing.
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Post by james03x1 on Sept 27, 2012 5:21:26 GMT -5
50cc mopeds can ride with car license there is no need of motorcycle license but if you wanna ride above than 50cc then you need a motorcycle license.
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Post by Yami on Sept 27, 2012 15:42:31 GMT -5
I took my Bill of Sale, MCO and Driver license to Florida Tax Collector. In 5 minutes she charged me $186.90 and handed my tag. Said my Title will come from Tallahassee in a couple of weeks. I was shocked... $186.90 for Title (about $80), Tag one year (about $40) and Sale tax (about $40). I really did not know about new vehicles separate title cost otherwise I would definitely go Used Scooter  So sad and feel being Ripped Off like a moron. UPDATE:: maybe I messed up with names and fees but she used this chart to calculate and totaled up to $186.90 www.flhsmv.gov/DHSMVfees.htm |
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Post by wutzthedeal on Sept 29, 2012 14:45:11 GMT -5
Virginia-no license, no insurance 50cc or under-however as of July 01, 2008 if you go over 35mph you get a ticket for riding unlicensed motorcycle In addition to that, you are required to wear a helmet as well as have all appropriate lights just like any other vehicle on the roads and of course highways/freeways are a no go. Upon last check, unless your city/county requires you to wear a helmet, you are not required to wear a helmet in Virginia. Here are the rules as of Sep, 2012: Restrictions Operation of mopeds on any Interstate Highway System is prohibited by Virginia Law. Operation of mopeds on highways and public vehicular areas by persons under age 16 is prohibited by Virginia law. No moped shall be driven on any highway or public vehicular area faster than 35 miles per hour. Operating a moped faster than 35 miles per hour is deemed by Virginia law to be operating a motorcycle, which requires you to title and register the moped as a motorcycle and obtain a motorcycle license. Moped riders must carry some form of identification that includes name, address, and date of birth. Although you do not need a driver's license to operate a moped, you may not operate a moped if you have been declared a habitual offender or your license is suspended or revoked for driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs. Moped drivers are required to abide by the same traffic laws and regulations as automobile drivers. Detailed information on Virginia's traffic laws and regulations is available in the Driver's Manual. In addition, certain local governments may impose restrictions on moped operation. Violations of the moped laws are considered a traffic infraction and convictions will appear on your driving record. All DUI laws apply to mopeds operated on public highways. |
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Post by james03x1 on Oct 2, 2012 1:17:32 GMT -5
oooh, it think it's too much cause a normal new 50cc scooter is available at $500 but in your area you have also to pay 100 dollar for registration...so sad |
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Post by martyd on Oct 7, 2012 0:57:13 GMT -5
in ky anything under 49cc requires only a drivers permit no insurance but theres a catch thats only if it goes less than 30mph then it becomes a motorcycle and needs title insurance and motor cycle liscense but it gets better ky will not register anything under 50cc so basicly unless you lie and tell them you put a bbk in it then your screwed
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Post by millsc on Oct 7, 2012 13:42:35 GMT -5
same in missouri cant title it even if you tell them its a bigger cc i tried
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Post by martyd on Oct 12, 2012 0:35:25 GMT -5
so how do you get away with going over 30mph cuz the cops here are real *ICKS about it
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Post by scootn4fun2010 on Nov 3, 2012 18:27:46 GMT -5
In North Carolina,
It must be 50cc or less and not to exceed 30 mph on a level surface. No license, registration, or insurance required. Helmets are a must and need to be 16 yrs or older to operate on highways or public roads.
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Post by markk on Nov 19, 2012 21:37:49 GMT -5
I just bought a Vino 50 Classic from someone in Michigan. I'm in California. The California DMV insists on having the Michigan title or they will not issue me a California title! It was never titled in Michigan because there it is considered a moped with less than 50cc.
How do I convince the DMV that it was nevered issued a title in Michigan?
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Post by 50cc on Nov 24, 2012 3:16:49 GMT -5
Here in Germany you can ride any road legal 50cc machine with a regular car driving license as long as it is mechanically restrcted to 45 km/h (or to 50 km/h for bikes produced earlier than 2002). Also, if it happens that they stop you to check your top speed they give it +10% tolerance, because the test is not performed in real road conditions, but on their portable roller trailer (don't know the English word for the device, it's like a small dyno for scooters).
No MOT whatsoever, no taxes, fees etc. Just 43 EUR yearly for insurance and your new license plate (every year with different font color).
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Post by Shandu on Nov 25, 2012 14:49:33 GMT -5
TAKEN FROM THE ARIZONA MVD SITE.
"42) What are the differences in a motorized bicycle, moped and a motor-driven cycle, and what are the licensing requirements?
Motorized Electric or Gas-Powered Bicycle or Tricycle – Generally operated at speeds of up to 20 mph, subject only to state and local requirement regarding safety equipment, does not meet National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) standards.
Title and Registration – No vehicle title or registration is issued.
Driver License – Does not require a driver license.
Emissions – Emissions testing is not required.
Insurance – Vehicle insurance is not required.
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Moped – A bicycle (human-powered vehicle with pedals) with a 50 cc or less helper motor, 1.5 hp or less braking power and rated at maximum top speed of 25 mph (on a flat surface with less than a one per cent grade).
Title and Registration – Must be registered. No vehicle title is issued.
Driver License – Any class of driver license can be used.
Emissions – Emissions testing is not required.
Insurance – Vehicle insurance is required.
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Motor-driven Cycle – A motorcycle originally manufactured to exceed 20 mph, rated at 5 hp or less, and not more than three wheels in contact with the ground. Includes motor scooters rated at 5 hp or less.
Title and Registration – Must be titled and registered.
Driver License – A motorcycle license or endorsement is needed.
Emissions – Emissions testing is not required.
Insurance – Vehicle insurance is required.
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For purposes of this response, the term 5 hp generally refers to a motor with 49 cc to 80 cc displacement."
The last one, the motor driven cycle is a general scooter, needing a Motorcycle endorsement and plate, and insurance with a title.
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Post by rudeviper on Dec 15, 2012 16:47:04 GMT -5
Florida requires a valid DL, and issues a motorcycle plate with annual yellow registration stickers similar in content to the pink one shown in the above pic. You must have a helmet and/or insurance. I had to supply the title to the DMV certifying that the scooter was 50cc or less. And they looked up the brand (Rocketa at the time) to see if it could be registered in the state. Simple......... Bad information - Florida is a no helmet state - and has been since I was a kid and I am 50 now. Born and raised here. There is NO insurance for a moped or a scooter 50cc's and under. We just registered 2 - 49.5 cc's scooters which they listed as 50 cc's but politely informed us that no special license was required. It's listed as 50cc's because there system doesn't recognize the .5 - lol |
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Post by Lykos on Jan 10, 2013 17:45:32 GMT -5
Illinois has been covered more than once in this topic, but not to my satisfaction because it's more complicated than it should be.
<49.9cc You need insurance, plates, and a valid drivers' license. 50cc or more and you need a class L license. But it's even more complicated than that:
"Scooters" are defined as "Pedalcycles" (with or without pedals) and phrased as "Mopeds".
"Moped drivers must obey all signs, signals and traffic laws. They also must obey most bicycle laws. A moped may not go over 30 miles per hour. Moped drivers may carry a passenger only when the moped is made for two people. Equipment must include a passenger seat and a passenger footrest.If a moped is driven at night, it must have a headlight visible from at least 500 ft. A moped must also have a red reflector on the rear visible from at least 100 to 600 ft. "
The law is simultaneously self contradictory too:
"You'll need to carry a Class L driver's license to ride a moped or scooter, as long as the engine displacement is less than 150 cubic centimeters."
This means that you can get a ticket no matter how legal you are trying to be, based entirely on the discretion of the officer pulling you over unless you meet ALL the requirements.
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Post by bobkat on Jan 11, 2013 17:48:46 GMT -5
i guess nobody rides scooters in new jersey??
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Post by renfield3 on Jan 23, 2013 14:02:01 GMT -5
MD Special decal,insurance and valid DL if no DL then you have to get a special moped/scooter license
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Post by inuyasha on Jan 23, 2013 14:33:33 GMT -5
so how do you get away with going over 30mph cuz the cops here are real *ICKS about it Hi In ct we have no speed limits imposed on small displacement scoots and we also go by BHP not displacment size of engine to determine whether its a motor driven cycle or a motorcycle www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=810&q=430480Take care and ride safely Yours Hank |
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Post by crawdad on Feb 9, 2013 13:59:28 GMT -5
I Oregon it seems that you need registration,title, insurance and a small plate like Motorcycles .Insurance is $75.00 and cost for the DMV is $185.00 but registration is good for 2 years. This info was given to me by DMV .They are also asking for a Certificate of compliance from the manufacturer .For 150's and higher you need a need a motorcycle attachment to your license .
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So sad and feel being Ripped Off like a moron.
