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Post by TERRA NUVO on Sept 27, 2011 10:27:14 GMT -5
so people from missouri... you have to have a license but dont have to register the scoot as long as its under 50cc. because i talked to an officer he said no license, no registration, no insurance, cant exceed 35 mph...  NEVER rely on cops for legal info- most of them are idiots- and the rest are liars. WORTHY OF A LAW DEGREE IN IT SELF |
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Post by kellyetheredge on Oct 7, 2011 11:10:24 GMT -5
South Carolina....no registration, no insurance, either a "moped" license or regular DL. No matter what the posted speed limit, you are not allowed to go over 25mph...yea I know that sucks..so far on SC Hwy Patrol seem to be enforcing it.....
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Post by dharvey27 on Oct 17, 2011 19:35:11 GMT -5
Kansas - Below 50cc - $16 a year tag, no insurance needed, no MC endorsment needed on DL. I have just researched Kansas and confirmation from the attorney from the Kansas dept of revenue Some Kansas statues that address them are K.S.A. 8-235, K.S.A. 8-1439a No insurance required Another thing is depending on who you talk to in Kansas you will get a different interpretation but there seems to be an unspoken law about under 50cc no dl is what i have found but no statue defining that and for the most part you don't get bothered with as long as you follow the rules of the road |
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Post by bamaplaya on Oct 19, 2011 10:26:17 GMT -5
IN, no plate, no insurance, nothing ,no valid id
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Post by wheelbender6 on Oct 23, 2011 15:17:04 GMT -5
Texas has tightened up on 50cc scooters. You must take the 15 hour, DPS course before taking the written test. Makes it tough to sell a 50cc scooter in TX.
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Post by charlesg1975 on Nov 12, 2011 21:35:11 GMT -5
In Florida you have to have it registered like any other vehicle, once a year with tags and everything. And you have to have a regular drivers license. No speed limits though my gmw m1 does 40+, just cc size. Anything over 50 has to have a motorcycle endorsement. But no helmet or insurance.
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Post by warriorboxerdog on Nov 21, 2011 0:11:11 GMT -5
In md you have to have a moped license, motorcycle license, or driver license. No insurance no registration and helmet is optional. You can't drive on any road were the posted speed limit is above 50mph. There is also a hp restriction of 2.75 brake hp or close to that. It must be 49cc or under and can't go faster then 30mph on flat ground. They were trying to pass a law to require tags insurance and helmets. I wear a helmet so that doesn't bother me but I don't want to pay to register a scooter unless they increase the brake horse power to 5hp and lose the speed restriction of 30mph. I use my scooter for my main transportation because I can' afford a car, gas, insurance, registration fees, emission test fees ect. But our governor is raising fees and taxes on everything right now! I think there should be a fed law that regulate scooters because of different state laws I cant ride my scooter to pa to see my parents for the holidays. I think there should be something in place so you can travel state to state and not have to worry about local laws.
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Post by inuyasha on Nov 21, 2011 11:05:10 GMT -5
Hi
CT Law concerning small scoots
Motor Driven Cycles: If you have a motor scooter, moped or motorbike having a motor that produces 5 brake horsepower or less (or 3.7 kW or less) and a seat height of at least 26 inches, you may operate it on the roadway without registering it. However, you must have a valid motor vehicle operator’s license to operate it, and you may not operate it on any sidewalk, limited access highway or turnpike. If the maximum speed of your cycle is less than the speed limit of the road that you are on, you must operate in the right hand lane available for traffic or upon a usable shoulder on the right side of the road unless you are making a left turn. As of October 1, 2008, these vehicles are referred to as “motor driven cycles.”
Take care and drive safely
Yours Hank
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Post by gtbike on Nov 21, 2011 17:10:37 GMT -5
CA - Anything that cannot also be driven by human propulsion but is under 150cc is a:
Motor-Driven Cycles
A motor-driven cycle is:
•A motorcycle with a 149 cc or less engine size.
NOTE: You may not operate a motor-driven cycle on a freeway if signs are posted to prohibit motor-driven cycle operation.
M1 License/Permit is required
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Post by scootman1946 on Nov 23, 2011 7:31:25 GMT -5
Anybody know about SD.
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Post by charlesg1975 on Nov 23, 2011 23:00:42 GMT -5
Hey TommyP you are mistaken you do not have to have any kind of insurance in Florida on a 50cc or under scooter. Whether you wear a helmet or not. That is only for motorcycle endorsements. All you have to have is a pair of safety glasses, Drivers license, and a regular tag yearly. It's $69.95
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Post by edfr on Nov 23, 2011 23:14:24 GMT -5
To get the REAL POOP just google for the states Scooter and or Motorcycle Laws. The information is free and for everyone to see. I noticed some have left out some important info on what their state scooter laws are.
Lefty
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Post by scootben on Nov 28, 2011 3:36:18 GMT -5
In Arkansas apparently has a size break only, no restriction on speed, just under 50cc and no license required as vehicle doesn't normally have a license plate issued under 50cc ;D
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Post by ravenlore on Dec 6, 2011 21:00:23 GMT -5
Massachusetts, i got the same letter too from RMV and was infuriated and extremely upset at liberties being taken away so easily by the state. The scoot has been registered as a moped since 2008 and earlier this year when I was at RMV, lady at the counter pulled up the pdf on the website which has the LUV list...and listed my model at 31mph...I also found the scoot is titled incorrectly with a missing alphabet, the bill of sale says it is a shenke yy50t-20 and RMV claims it is YY50qt-20(maybe they are right)...however, I bought this back in 2008 not wanting motorcycle license, insurance and all hassles. The scooter has a metal plate listing it as a JONWAY. Is there anything that I can do to continue driving the scooter or will I have to sell it...it sucks to do all of the above and be on a 50cc. I would rather be on a motorcycle. The letter does say if I prove to RMV that it is indeed fits a definition of moped, they will let me keep it. Seriously, the scoot struggles on plain roads to go to the max speed of 30mph, forget uphills, i cant do more than 20mph...downhills, yeah i can crank...so, any way i can convince RMV? any help appreciated Sorry to bring back a zombie thread, but would it be possible for you to get one of those datalogger "snapshot" devices from a car insurance company and use that to document the scoot's performance? |
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Post by pistolpete2u on Dec 18, 2011 6:51:54 GMT -5
Here is Georgias.
A moped is defined as any motor driven cycle with an engine not exceeding 50 cubic centimeters (3.05 cubic inches).
Mopeds are exempt from the provisions relating to the registration and licensing of motor vehicles.
Rules to operate mopeds on Georgia roads and highways:
1.Must be 15 years of age and have in their possession a valid driver's license, instructional permit or limited permit.
2.Must wear protective headgear (motorcycle helmet).
3.No tag is required.
4.Every person operating a moped upon a roadway must obey the same traffic laws governing drivers of motor vehicles.
5.May not use limited access highways or other roadways where the minimum speed limit is above 35 mph.
A Class M license is required to operate, legally, a motorcycle or motor-driven cycle in Georgia. Every motor vehicle having a saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground, but excluding a tractor and moped (with engine size less than 50CC), are defined as motorcycles. Georgia law places all types of motorcycles including scooters, motorbikes and minibikes (with engine size 51 CC or greater) into one classification. All are considered motor-driven cycles.
Class M - License Requirements
1.Must be 17 years of age and have parental consent, if under age 18.
2.Under age 18, Certificate of Attendance (Form DS-1) must be presented.
3.Must successfully complete a motorcycle examination which includes special road signs test, a special road rules test and an actual driving test on a motorcycle.
4.You must also pass a vision test. If the vision test was administered and passed during the year in conjunction with another license issuance, the eye test may be waived.
5.If the applicant meets the established requirements for a Class M license, and also possesses a Class C or combination of other classes of permits, that license must be surrendered and a photographic license containing the Class M endorsement will be issued. The applicant will not be given a refund for their remaining period of validity of the other license, but such endorsements would run concurrently
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Post by piligrim on Jan 1, 2012 1:46:16 GMT -5
CA - Anything that cannot also be driven by human propulsion but is under 150cc is a: Motor-Driven Cycles A motor-driven cycle is: •A motorcycle with a 149 cc or less engine size. NOTE: You may not operate a motor-driven cycle on a freeway if signs are posted to prohibit motor-driven cycle operation. M1 License/Permit is required Sounds right. What about registration/insurance requirements though? |
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Post by dinogy6 on Jan 19, 2012 22:39:08 GMT -5
Here in New Zealand we have the following from memory; 50cc scooter can be ridden on car learners licence, No 6 monthly vehicle fitness test, Cheap registration, Strict helmet laws, 50kph (30mph) max speed, The Police don't check for modications,yet,don't get caught speeding  No insurance required. If you own a bigger scooter or motorbike (as they are classed) you may as well buy a car as the insurance and registration is crazy money. I replied to this post just to show an oversea's example,if someone from my country has more or better info please reply,cheers. |
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Post by rangerjm on Feb 4, 2012 15:12:26 GMT -5
I live in the bottom southwestern corner of NC. We have the no tag, no license, or insurence law. As well as the 30mph. But here is the kicker. We have a lot of mountain roads. Not hills. 4% to 8% grades are everywhere. Up most hills, I average 25 to 30 at the top. Going down is a whole different ball game in itself. LOL Ly sped odomenter only goes to 80km/h of 50mph. so I couldnt tell how fast I am moving.
all I know is everyone seems to find it nesasery to pass me no matter what spee I am traveling at. So far (knock on wood.) No tickets.
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Post by skuttadawg on Feb 18, 2012 0:23:23 GMT -5
In SC a moped has pedals like a bicycle and considered a bicycle with helper engine and you can get a moped license at 14 as I was one of the first to do so as I was 14 when it went into effect . If its a 49cc and has pegs or floorboard like a scooter its a motorcycle and requires a MC license . Riders under 18 have to wear a helmet and eye protection . All 2 ir 3 wheelers have to have a headlight on at all times . I had a Honda Spree at age of 18 and insurance was only 48 a year for liability . Due to that fact of some many scooters here now they have laxxed on moped law unofficially . A friend last night told me one of his friends got pulled over for going over 30 mph with a moped tag . Most cops do not care as long as your driving safe and have on a helmet as they is much more worse crimes like murder or DUI . I was screaming ( well the scooter was ) downhill and ducking down to reduce wind drag and a cop car with two officers in it pointed and laughed since a big guy on a little scooter going so fast . Most are cool as long as you do not have the muffler off, signs of wreckage like broken body panels or a 12 pack of beer in a milk crate on the rear rack and no helmet . In Easley city limits they are hating on those with a moped tag .
Today on the news there is going to be a moped law that allows drunk moped drivers to be charged with a DUI just like any other motor vehicle . I was shocked that there is a loophole where one could not be charged . Did not George Jones ( country singer ) get a DUI on a riding lawnmower ? I saw a couple on " Cops " that did as well . I met a guy on a scooter a 150 with a moped tag ( also cracking down on ) tell me he had just went through a checkpoint while drunk . He said they asked if he had a license and told them no and they told him to drive on . He was so drunk he could not walk with out staggering . I was blown away by the blind eye on that . I could understand the 30 MPH limit but not drunken driving . I am sure most of us had driven while buzzed and gotten lucky and hopefully only drive sober these days . I guess some dummy thought that a drunkard on a moped is only dangerous to themselves but in fact can contribute to a car and moped wreck which often has fatalities or serious injuries since so many think they do not need a helmet or even eye protection . I met a guy on ascooter with no helmet or glasses and asked if he had 300,000 for new eyes and told him Goodwill has sunglasses for a dollar as anything will help block wind or a rock from striking the eyes . I love my rec specs as they wrap my face and block wind . Its crazy to ride in the rain without a helmet or at least glasses . My helmet made is less distracting than rain hitting the face and eyes . I have been in the rain and had to go slow as the drops would sting when going above 35 MPH . Around the block or real close I opt to wear my fullface but always when I have to get on a highway or heavily traffic areas . A helmet is cheaper than a new head . I had a wipeout at 17 and my fullface helmet saved me from being disfigured as the helmet was ate up beyond a scratch . I kept it for years to remind me how it saved me from becoming a monster as I can not afford 30 grand for plastic surgery reconstruction .
Its more enjoyable to be legal instead of stressing over a citation or arrest . Tag , registration , taxes and ins. is much cheaper than fines . Here in Sc driving w/o ins. you go to jail and vehicle impounded and have to get a cash or cashus ( thats what they call it like putting up a deed etc ) bond to get released or wait in jail till court .
and hope you get time served .
Every month there is a scooter wreck on the news and most have died from injuries and most no helmet . So if your going to ride to it safe and enjoy it . If your going to drink or do dope stay at home please .
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Post by drfeelgood82 on Feb 18, 2012 1:10:29 GMT -5
they recently changed the law in indiana or at least fort wayne, where all scooters must have insurance, title, plate, valid DL w/ m endorsement. Most of the local officers are mainly concerned about all the little 14 yr old kids weaving in and out of traffic riding doubles and get smacked by buses. I'm legal minus the DL.... 28 more days... Hey everybody makes mistakes. I'm responsible on my scoot always flashing brake light to alert followers of braking. I love watching peoples faces as they see me turn through intersections almost dragging a knee on a scooter. One corner in particular everyday on the way to work i always get looks as it is a nice sweeping 90 taken at about 35+. I think the law is BS though. they didn't need to change it, just take care of the problem. Good to see another Hoosier, down her in columbus you dont have to have anything to ride one just dont get caught going over 25mph or you will get a speeding ticket. But thats for now once the people in office realize how many ppl ride scooters im sure they will find a way to tax us which is bs. just my 2cents  |
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Post by skuttadawg on Feb 18, 2012 2:00:37 GMT -5
Mopeds and scooters are fun and super mpg to boot . Drunkards should have to walk , bicycle or get a ride from a licensed driver or taxi . My glasses are so strong I have been asked if they were beer goggles from those I have let try them on lol . My optician said if they were any stronger I could see 3 minutes into the future lol
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Post by warriorboxerdog on Feb 18, 2012 2:30:08 GMT -5
kgarove where in md do you live? I live in northern anne arudel county. In md they wont title a 50cc scooter all you need is a dl or scooter permit. Its no supposed to go over 30mph and your not supposed to ride on any road where the posed speed limit is aboue 50mph unless there is a bike lane. Also your supposed to ride on the shoulder unless the road doesn't have one or there is a turning lane The police don't mess with scooters in my neck of the woods unless your being stupid. My scooter goes well over 30mph I never have been stoped and my roomate has a 125 cc and goes over 30mph and has never been stoppped. I think if your wearing the proper safety gear it gets you more respect from people in general as well as the police. I do stay in the slow lane on mutilane roadwaya and ride on the shoulder when I know a cop is around even though I can keep up with traffic on most roads and becareful not to speed. I'v herd the cops in the city of baltimore are more strict cuz of kids weaving in and out of traffic. I was thinking of moving back to Pa where my family lives but I was unable to cuz they require you to have a restricted morocycle licence for 50cc and under. My scooter permit is not transferable there and you need tags insurance imspection and registration. Since I bought my scooter in md it didn't come with a title even though I bought it new from a dealership and had to pay extra for a certificate of origan which I think is dumb! PA also said if I didn't own it for 3 months I had to pay taxes on the purchase price which was 2000.00 I thought that was unfair since I paid taxes when I bought it. PA is a very unfriendly scooter moped state! I did email the govener of md to see if it was leagal to ride to pa to see my family and the dmv checked with pa state police and they said long as I was following my home states laws there was nothing they can do. I carry that letter on my scooter just in case I get pulled over.
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Post by skuttadawg on Feb 18, 2012 9:18:35 GMT -5
Sales tax and property tax
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Post by vhudkins on Mar 16, 2012 10:54:30 GMT -5
they recently changed the law in indiana or at least fort wayne, where all scooters must have insurance, title, plate, valid DL w/ m endorsement. Most of the local officers are mainly concerned about all the little 14 yr old kids weaving in and out of traffic riding doubles and get smacked by buses. I'm legal minus the DL.... 28 more days... Hey everybody makes mistakes. I'm responsible on my scoot always flashing brake light to alert followers of braking. I love watching peoples faces as they see me turn through intersections almost dragging a knee on a scooter. One corner in particular everyday on the way to work i always get looks as it is a nice sweeping 90 taken at about 35+. I think the law is BS though. they didn't need to change it, just take care of the problem. That isn't Indiana State law that Ft. Wayne decided their city can just up and over-ride. I've had to fight a similar battle with the city of Frankfort, Indiana. They passed a city ordinance requiring you to have a plate you get from the cops after you pay them a fee and provide proof of insurance and have the cops inspect it to make sure the lights and so on work. They'll cite you, and it's a $25 fine if you ride through town without their city plate. And they'll even have a tow truck come as part of the experience. They pull this crap despite the fact that under Indiana State law for a scooter of less than 2 BPH, under 50CC, and under 25 MPH top speed on level ground there IS NO REQUIREMENT for a drivers license for 16 years of age and up. Nor does the Indiana State law require insurance on such vehicles and on top of that, the Indiana BMV absolutely DOES NOT issue plates for such vehicles. And the Frankfort PD, and the City Court, does not differentiate between Frankfort city residents and out-of-town moped riders passing through in perfect compliance with Indiana State Law. They USED to give out-of-town residents the courtesy of recognizing that those people are in compliance with Indiana State Law when riding their moped without any license, insurance or plate and then let them go about their business after an explanation. But not anymore. It doesn't matter if you aren't a resident now - they'll ticket and tow you without their city plate. And then you have your choice of paying $25 up front or going to their City's Kangaroo Court and paying the 25 bucks PLUS almost another hundred dollars in court costs! It should be against State Law for the individual towns and city to overstep their authority and nullify the legal standards the Legislature passed and the Governor signed into Law. Oh, and when I went to the City's Kangaroo Court to plead that the City of Frankfort had no right to impose their private city tag on a person who does not live in their city limits, I found out the insurance that the cops are using to issue the tags is people's homeowner's insurance. Which I found interesting since no insurance agency I've ever heard of actually writes moped policies around here. So here's what's happened - I used to do a lot of business at Frankfort, Indiana stores and restaurants. Now I just ride a few miles further and take my business to towns that don't have such ridiculous rules. |
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Post by vhudkins on Mar 16, 2012 10:58:55 GMT -5
IN, no plate, no insurance, nothing ,no valid id Almost. In Indiana you DO have to have a valid State ID if you are over 16. That's an ID, not a Driver's License. |
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Post by prelude2fast on Mar 16, 2012 18:30:33 GMT -5
Arkansas website said that it has to be under 35mph, no tag, endorsement, or insurance, but 50cc has to stay under 35.. Thats what the site says anyway.. I haven't been pulled over yet.. lol
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Post by terrilee on Mar 16, 2012 19:41:11 GMT -5
dont know, dont care lol
49cc just aint big enough for anything
i wont ever own one.
but i think in PA.
u need everything , Dl, tag,plate, insurance,
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Post by inuyasha on Mar 16, 2012 19:51:12 GMT -5
dont know, dont care lol
49cc just aint big enough for anything
i wont ever own one.
but i think in PA.
u need everything , Dl, tag,plate, insurance, Hi Terri You need to tryout a nice 2 stroke 50 like my new Aprilia SR, i think you would change your mind about that Take care and drive safely dear friend Yours Hank |
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Post by terrilee on Mar 16, 2012 19:52:50 GMT -5
hankers
u might be right
u gonna buy me one ? lmsao
hey speaking of.
still looking ? or what?
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Post by inuyasha on Mar 16, 2012 19:59:09 GMT -5
hankers u might be right u gonna buy me one ? lmsao hey speaking of. still looking ? or what? Hi Terri No i purchased her a few weeks back, I thought i had mentioned it to you so sorry Take care and drive safely Yours Hank |
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