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Post by barnone on Jul 7, 2009 9:19:17 GMT -5
Excuse my poor photos but... LED brake light and Bestem top box LED brake light. Much brighter than photo shows. Happened to catch the LED turn signal light on. Slow, Another question.Are the dummy light bulbs the same size and same base except for offset pins for the front and rear? Thanks,
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Post by scosgt on Jul 7, 2009 13:29:00 GMT -5
Strauss Stores here in New York sell a YELLOW 1156 bulb. Something like $4.59 for two. I suppose these could be adapted? I am wondering because I do have the bulbs in the inside, but eventually a turn signal bulb will burn out and need to be replaced.
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Post by slowscootin07 on Jul 7, 2009 21:41:17 GMT -5
Here we go guys. This will give you the best idea size wise what you can do for the front dummies. The below picture is of the dummy bulbs. The top one is from the rear and the bottom one is from the front. You can use the length of the front dummy and the width on the back dummy in the front socket and that's about it. I bought all "89" 1156 style marker lights for all the initial dummy upgrades before i went to full LED. I priced out amber bulbs of that size and came up with nothing but a good 5.00 each. FFFFF that Instead I bought a ½ dozen 89 style and a can of yellow stained glass paint. Worked perfectly. I have a thread in the tips and tricks section a while ago called making your own amber bulbs here. scootdawg.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=tipsandtricks&thread=9837&page=1 Now for the pic and notice how I filed off one of the tabs on my amber bulb replacements to put them in the front. BTW I used these in the rear dummies too until I went to LED.
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Post by scosgt on Jul 8, 2009 9:37:20 GMT -5
Are the rear dummies wired as turn signals? I am just wondering if they could be used as running lights (possibly illegal) or if I could just throw the bulbs in and have extra turn signals (can never have enough turn signals). Would the dummy sockets and lens be in any way brighter than the eye stalks in the rear? Maybe it would be worth removing the stalks and using the dummies for better visibility?
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Post by barnone on Jul 8, 2009 10:13:05 GMT -5
scosgt, The rear dummies are wired and just need bulbs. See slowscootin07's and my photos in this thread. I thought about wiring the from and rear dummies into running lights and might do it yet. The rear should be red.
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Post by barnone on Jul 8, 2009 10:22:42 GMT -5
Here we go guys. This will give you the best idea size wise what you can do for the front dummies. The below picture is of the dummy bulbs. The top one is from the rear and the bottom one is from the front. You can use the length of the front dummy and the width on the back dummy in the front socket and that's about it. I bought all "89" 1156 style marker lights for all the initial dummy upgrades before i went to full LED. I priced out amber bulbs of that size and came up with nothing but a good 5.00 each. FFFFF that Instead I bought a ½ dozen 89 style and a can of yellow stained glass paint. Worked perfectly. I have a thread in the tips and tricks section a while ago called making your own amber bulbs here. scootdawg.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=tipsandtricks&thread=9837&page=1 Now for the pic and notice how I filed off one of the tabs on my amber bulb replacements to put them in the front. BTW I used these in the rear dummies too until I went to LED. slowscootin07, Thanks for the detail and photos. I think that I have some found some offset pin leds that will fit the front dummies. Will let you know if they fit.
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Post by slowscootin07 on Jul 8, 2009 11:15:38 GMT -5
scosgt, The rear dummies are wired and just need bulbs. See slowscootin07's and my photos in this thread. I thought about wiring the from and rear dummies into running lights and might do it yet. The rear should be red. They are prewired to be turn signals. You could change some wiring to make them marker lights or even swap the sockets and make them tail/brake lights too. The fronts would be easily wired into the front markers by the headlight if you wanted to change those to front markers. I opted to keep all of the dummies turn signals and having dual signals per side makes for some very nice visibility. When I added the awesome LED front markers, that helped a ton for front viewing. I then added the side markers which are viewable from the front, side and rear. I also purposely used different style bulbs in the dummy rears which fire mostly radially to fill the lenses up and provide greater side viewing angle. The fronts, I added what would fit, which really isn't a lot... In case you missed this video, here are the LEDS in action with the side markers and headlight marker LED upgrades. I'm going to be doing some serious website upgrades soon
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Post by furshore on Jul 27, 2009 15:22:17 GMT -5
Jeff, you said at one time that you were putting together a video on valve adjustment. Well, my scooter has about 7200 km and I am sure that I need to check or adjust the valves. I have looked at the service manual, but I would feel more comfortable watching one of your "teaching" videos. Do you know when you are going to produce this video. Thanks
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Post by scosgt on Aug 3, 2009 10:26:13 GMT -5
Is the brake light LED a special type because it would need two elements?
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Post by scosgt on Aug 3, 2009 10:43:51 GMT -5
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Post by slowscootin07 on Aug 3, 2009 22:07:21 GMT -5
Jeff, you said at one time that you were putting together a video on valve adjustment. Well, my scooter has about 7200 km and I am sure that I need to check or adjust the valves. I have looked at the service manual, but I would feel more comfortable watching one of your "teaching" videos. Do you know when you are going to produce this video. Thanks I've been working huge hours and really haven't had much time, but.... I'm off Tues and Wed and will be doing it for sure. My idle is a bit rougher than I like and it's time. Not bad though in my opinion as even at 3000 miles, they were still fine. I noticed a bit of the idling problem at 4K and haven't had the time. Now at over 4200 they need it and I do have the time I'll also be doing the coolant flush too.-- They're coming soon
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Post by slowscootin07 on Aug 3, 2009 22:32:47 GMT -5
DUDE!!!! don't buy those, they're 24.00 shipped to me for two bulbs-----F that. I have a bunch of spare ones that I made and I'll give them to you for free if you pay shipping. You can also make your own for cheaper than that--- link--- scootdawg.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=tipsandtricks&action=display&thread=9837LED question- With the one I got, there is only one chip per light. Now that means either it is a 12 volt chip that is temporarily increased in voltage internally to become the brake light, or most likely it is dimmed a bit to become the tail light. Either way an 1157 LED bulb has tail and brake built into it and you shouldn't have to modify anything as long as you have a 1157 socket. an 1156 was one bottom contact and an 1157 has two; one for each bulb function.
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Post by scosgt on Aug 3, 2009 23:39:47 GMT -5
I found another site that sells them 2 for $2.95
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Post by groovy on Aug 4, 2009 9:24:10 GMT -5
Link?
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Post by furshore on Aug 4, 2009 9:47:26 GMT -5
Jeff, thanks for the reply about the valve adjusment video. I will wait. The scooter seems to idle ok, but I'm sure that they still need adjusting.
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Post by slowscootin07 on Aug 7, 2009 14:32:47 GMT -5
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Post by scosgt on Aug 7, 2009 17:09:34 GMT -5
Waht a great video! Thanks for that, looks so easy even I may be able to do it.
One BIG question: How do you get it to the timing mark, I mean what do you turn? Since there is no kick start, I just need to know how you move the piston to get it TDC
Thanks
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Post by slowscootin07 on Aug 7, 2009 18:58:51 GMT -5
A 10mm wrench or socket drive on one of the cam bolts is what you use to turn it. I'm going to annotate the video since I forgot that. The original video was a good 15 minutes long, but You Tube only allows 10 minutes
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Post by scosgt on Aug 7, 2009 20:36:54 GMT -5
AHA So then even an idiot like me might be able to do it!
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Post by furshore on Aug 10, 2009 15:16:31 GMT -5
I agree...great video Jeff. I watched the video a couple of times and then set off to adjust the valves. Everything went great. Thanks for the help.
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Post by birdmove on Aug 10, 2009 22:46:04 GMT -5
We jst got my wife a new leftover 2008 HD200. She has ridden a Honda Metro for a few years, and wanted a bigger one. I did the research and we picked the HD200. She loves it, and I test rode one before buying (she wanted me to test ride one) and I am very impressed. I'm an old motorcycle rider, but I wouldn't mind having one of these myself. Her Metro that we traded in had about 3300 miles and was running great. It still had the original belt and rollers, and still topped out about 41mph. Anyone know what we can expect for roller and belt life?
Jon
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Post by slowscootin07 on Aug 11, 2009 3:32:25 GMT -5
Belt life is supposed to be about 6K. Mine's getting close at 4300, but we've done a lot of 2 up riding and that will wear one out faster as will a lot of stop and go. I guesstimate that I only have another 700 miles left on mine until i change it out.. The last time I checked at about 2500, the rollers were fine. You're not dealing with a shoddy machine for sure. SYM and Honda have been "sleeping" together for many decades and you can expect the same quality.
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Post by scosgt on Aug 13, 2009 13:34:19 GMT -5
The front turn signal (body) bulb is a RY10W, not available in the US. However, it is the same bulb as used in the Vespa GT200, Vespa part number 584332, and is readily available from Vespa dealers. Cost is $3.45 plus tax, and I found it online for $3.62 The difference from the bulbs that Jeff painted are the pins (these are correct) and it is 10W, not 7.5 which the type 89 is. If you want to do your own, paint the 5008 from Osram (Sylvania), available in any parts store. You will have to file off the tab. This is the bulb used in the REAR stalk signals.
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Post by slowscootin07 on Aug 14, 2009 1:54:21 GMT -5
I had reasons for using the 89's and that was wattage additions. 4 7½ watt bulbs added to the system was alot better than 4-10watts. granted these where only turn signals, but the 89's were a lot cheaper of an addition while I resaerched the LED replacements. I only had the painted bulbs in for a few weeks before I changed to LED's all around.
The offset pin ones needed for the front dummies are ridiculous expensive and are available in clear anywhere, but amber is a different story. Thus entered the file--hehe.
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Post by johnnyop on Aug 14, 2009 9:21:47 GMT -5
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Post by slowscootin07 on Aug 14, 2009 10:01:11 GMT -5
Nope, first off, those are too big and won't fit inside and second the pins are wrong too. the pins are the same height as each other but if you look at the bulb from the bottom, they are not at the 3 and 9 o'clock position but at about 4 and 9 o' clock. Look about 10 posts above this one and see the bulbs next to the ruler. That's about it size wise for the front body dummies.
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Post by scosgt on Aug 14, 2009 14:01:48 GMT -5
I now have the actual original factory OEM bulb in my hands, it is about 18mm wide and of course the tabs are as you state. So an 18mm wide LED will fit.
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Post by gateway109 on Aug 14, 2009 18:36:40 GMT -5
I have a cracked lens on the front body blinkers the bulb is fine. There is no part number for this I think it was something Sym had to add for dot approval. I was wondering if anyone knows where i can get a replacement lens.
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Post by scosgt on Aug 14, 2009 20:45:48 GMT -5
Carter Bros. But it may be an off the shelf item. Check the dimensions and then search the motorcycle sites.
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Post by scosgt on Aug 14, 2009 20:46:29 GMT -5
Wait, are you saying the eyestalks or the fairing?
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