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Post by aileronjack on Dec 9, 2009 12:18:56 GMT -5
Hey Alley! good to hear from you. By slope, do you mean slop, as in a lot of play or loose? Your explanation was good though.
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Post by als01seville on Dec 14, 2009 20:35:38 GMT -5
YO Aileronjack, Yes I meant slop, I am not a secertary so excuse the spelling, wish they had spell check when posting:) Haven't hear from you about the Speedo. Have you received the replacement or is it still on the boat going around the Horn. Its been brutal around here with wind chills in the minus digets, so about every other day I start the Trike and let it warm up for about 10 minutes. But if a day comes that is at least in the mid 30s and not windy and no snow on the streets I AM READY:) Alleyoop
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Post by aileronjack on Dec 17, 2009 20:54:54 GMT -5
Hey Als01sevile: Yeah, I have been tinkering with the bike a little and wanted to get a few things done with that before I logged another post. I wish they had spell check as well. My yahoo mail account doesn't have it either. Today I sent the salesman an e-mail and asked him to "keep me in the lop". What the ^%$# was that? Yes, I got the speedo and have it installed and it works! I also picked up and installed the ENM tach that dwild had mentioned in one of his threads (I think) and it's working as well. It's nice knowing what the engine is doing now. Aslo, I got the replacement parts for the ones that I had broken when trying to install the windshield and have them back on the bike. The only problem is the "flying V" that is the windshield gaurd is a close color but not a good match. I guess the next lot that came out of the factory was sprayed and baked on a day with more humidity than the day they baked the first ones. The next hassel to work through is with our DMV. They rejected the MCO my salesman sent me. Something about some raised lettering and the seal at the top was not raised. I went to a different office and they rejected it as well. I have gotten with the salesman and we are trying to get an original like the DMV has requested. I picked up a copy of the Louisiana Motorcycle Guide to begin reading for the written. I was noticing the Weather Channel has been forecasting some serious cold, bone chilling, weather for the Chicago area as of late. The weather here has been raining and cold. We're on track for a record December rainfall. New Orleans is shy of a record about 2 inches and we still have 13 days or so to go. Pretty sure we'll break the old one.
Merry Christmas to ya Al,
Jack
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Post by als01seville on Dec 17, 2009 21:11:49 GMT -5
Hi Arileronjack, Merry Christmas to you and your family bud.
Good to hear your Trike is back in shape so you can let your wife use it to pick up the mail at the end of the driveway:) Well at least in New Orleans you will be able to ride as soon as EL NORTHTEY comes back up our way. But here it does not look promiseing, it BRUTAL OUT THERE:) Wind chills have been in the MINUS and temps in the teens and LOW 20s BRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Al
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Post by aileronjack on Dec 18, 2009 15:56:44 GMT -5
I just got back from an 11 mile ride.. I checked it against the truck when I went back over the exact route. I went back over the route in my truck only because the odometer read 21 miles; and I knew it wasn't 21 miles. I went online to check the conversion for kilomters and apparently the replacement speedometer is calibrated in kilomters. The next test will be to see how accurate the mph/kph is. Should I be worried about this issue if I ever want to resell the bike? Or should I ask for a American Standard miles cailbrated spoeedomter, send the new one back, wait 12 years for the replacement to come in, and fix the issue?
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Post by als01seville on Dec 18, 2009 16:21:54 GMT -5
Airleron jack, They all pretty much come with kilometers. I already asked that question and they do not make them for the U.S.A since most of their sales or overseas. We are lucky that at least the Speedo has both, except the KPH is on the outside in big numbers and the MPH are inside in small numbers:) I checked and there are outfits that will convert them but only the FACE DECAL with MPH. But haven't found any that will change the gearing inside. Alleyoop
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Post by aileronjack on Jan 2, 2010 18:25:46 GMT -5
Well, It's been a while since I have posted anything on this thread; but today warrrants a ranting entry. I bought this bike back in November. I have yet to get the MCO approved by our DMV and after several weeks of aggravation with the speedometer, I got the new one installed only to run out of gas today because of a faulty gas gauge. $#%$, %^, &^%, @$#.!!!!! Bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. It registers full at all times.
I suppose I should be thankful that I have a patient wife. She brought the gas, the funnel, and a tow strap (just in case it wasn't the gas) and was able to do so without fussing. I was on the way back from a chilly 48 degree ride, with the sun shinning and my new (red) full face helemet with the dark tint flip down visor. I was turning heads left and right with kids pointing and old men gaulking. I rode up to a stop sign on a back road and wasn't quite to a full stop when it died. Alleyoop, you had an entry somewhere about a new gas gauge. I can't remember where it was, but if you could direct me, it would be mighty helpful. Was the new one any good?
Well, long story short. I got a few drops in the tank and after several 5 second attempts it fired, cranked, and I was on my way with the wife in rear escort for peace of mind.
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Post by wolfhound on Jan 2, 2010 23:51:26 GMT -5
Jack, sorry that you had gas tank problems. I carry a spare gallon in the top trunk of my 150-8. Fuel gage is a joke on all my scoots. As for speedometers, the one an the 150-8 shows rpms and either kilometers or miles per hour with the press of a button. And it is the only accurate one that I have on any of my scoots. This is by the GPS method of checking. Also RPM readings. We are havcng the big chill here in NGA. This week the highs will be in the low 30s and the lows will be in the mid teens for the next 6 days with a chance if a snow on Thurs.
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Post by als01seville on Jan 2, 2010 23:57:49 GMT -5
Aileronjack, Got to laugh on you running out of gas. It happened to my brother-in law. Except he was lucky he just pulled away from his driveway and was on the street talking to his neighbor across the street when the Trike died, it ran out of gas. And like yours it was reading full:) Two things cause the guage to read either FULL all the Time or EMPTY when its FULL: 1. Gauge reads EMPTY when its full: This is caused by the CHEAP THIN PLASTIC FLOAT taking on gas and weighing it down to register as EMPTY. 2. Gauge reads FULL when its EMPTY OR ITS ERRATIC: The wire that holds the FLOAT is stuck on the plastic pivot in the up position. Probe inside the tank with a small stick or wire and move the wire that holds the Float and see if the gauge needle moves and frees up. But it will probably happen again. b. The plate that rotates up and down and also holds the wire with the Float is loose and wobbles and does not make contact with the resister plate all the time. In this case the Clip that holds the wire on the other side of the platic holder is not tight enough and causes the wire and plate to wobble. I took the clip off and used a small Brass collar with a set screw to keep it nice and tight against the Plastic Holder. In Either Case 1 or 2 to fix it correctly you have to take the Gas Sensor Out. Either order a new one or Fix the one you have. But a new one will be of the same quality and will have the same problems sooner or later. But since you just got your trike yours is still under warranty so order a new one. Just so you at least have a new CONTACT PLATE and New Reister Plate wired.
I fixed the one I had so all of the problems of 1 and 2 would be solved. Look in ICE BEAR PST150H TRIKE page 4 down towards the bottom you will see a picture of my new Gas Sensor with a Brass Sealed Float.
Now Some of the Trikes will Register Full until it is down a gallon or two, it depends on the size of your tank. The reason is because the Pivot Plate that holds the wire with the Float only pivots so much. So when your tank is full the Pivot Plate does not Pivot enough to allow the Float to reach the top of the tank. That means the Float is actually under water as they say and will show full for quite a while until the gas level is low enough that the Float is now actually working and floating on top of the gas.
This also holds true when it is reading very close to EMPTY when its Not you may have 2 gallons left and its reading EMPTY. That again is because the Pivot Plate only moves so much up and down. So now the Pivot is at its max in the dwon position reading empty but you still may have 1-3 gallons left. The gallons left depends on the size of your tank. On my PST150H Trike the tank is almost 5 gallons so mine reads empty and I have almost 3 gallons left. But I am going to fix that and have it read EMPTY when I have about 1 1/2 gallons left.
Alleyoop
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Post by aileronjack on Jan 4, 2010 13:45:05 GMT -5
Thanx guys for the support. I am the type of guy that takes these life challenges with a grain of salt; and can find the humor in the situation much like Alleyoop. The funny thing is, a state trooper came up slowly behind me, I waved him around, and he eased on to the stop sign, waited a moment (there was no traffic to wait on), and pulled away very slowly. (I have still got ZERO endorsement, registration, or title). I don't have sticker one on the bike. He was gone for maybe fifteen minutes while I thought I had dodged a bullet. Dang! here he comes again. This time he stops! rolls his window down, and asked if I had run out of gas. I smiled and said "Yeah". He asked if I had someone coming noting that the first time he came by he had seen me on my cell. (Fortunately, I could get signal on this backwoods road). I again responded that my wife was on her way and likely to be less than a mile away by this time. He just shook his head and offerd that if I needed help he was just a hundred yards away or so I (with this I assumed he lived pretty close by and had stopped for a doughnut or something). I thanked him kindly and offered that my wife was bringing a gas can and funnel. He smiled and casually drove off.
Ya know.... At 48 degrees it is simply amazing how hot it gets; I was sweatin' bullets.
Alley, my wife has yet to see the humor... I think I am still in the doghouse...
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Post by als01seville on Jan 4, 2010 21:48:46 GMT -5
Aileronjack, That is funny. Something similiar happened to my brother-in law when we first got the trikes. He came over to my house which is 5miles away and we rode around for awhile then he left to go back home. Well on the way back a cop stopped him because NO LICENSE PLATES and NO REGISTERING OR NOTHING, because we were waiting for our MCOs to arrive. But he explained that he just got it and was waiting for the MCO and he checked out the trike said it was NEAT and told him to ride safe.
LOVE the 48 degrees and HOW HOT IT GETS:) But usually MOST of the police are nice UNLESS they got up on the wrong side of the bed that day:) And if you just explain the situation they will not ticket you.
As for your wife not seeing the humor, well don't forget you interrupted her SOAP OPERAS ON TV:) Alleyoop
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Post by aileronjack on Jan 9, 2010 11:56:26 GMT -5
I have finally heard from the DMV in Baton Rouge!!!!!! They are sending my plate and registration first, with the title to come a little later. Temps now are in the teens. Maybe I can get the docs in time for the mid 50s and low 60s next week. It's about dang time! It has been since the 29th of October getting my registration, plate, and title. I love our state. It has so much to offer. It's appropriately referred to as "The Sportsmans Paradise". But the crap you have to go through to get anything done here is just absolutely ridiculous. Not only are you jumping through hoops of fire, but you may land in a alligator pit on the other side. Anyway, I will be legal soon, and looking forward to good weather.
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Post by wolfhound on Jan 9, 2010 12:08:53 GMT -5
Congratrs, Jack. It took me 5 weeks to get my first scoot, the Tank 150 registered. Finally got a tag and registration and then got a notice from the state DMV office in Atlanta that the unit was home built and registerable and that i must send it back. I refused and had my daughter in law/office mgr. call them and she got them to understand. They sent me a form to fill out and return and never had any more trouble. They did not have tank in the data base. went trhu some simular stuff with the local DMV on the Tank 250 but got all that cleared out in a couple of weeks. By the time I bought the Trike I knew the ropes, what info to take and got it in a week. Had to provide the manufacturers serial#. Once they had Daixos info it sailed thru. glad you can now start riding. Dont forget your MC license.
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Post by aileronjack on Jan 9, 2010 23:32:35 GMT -5
Hey Wolfhound: Sounds like you have enjoyed as much of the DMV as I have. I guess I can understand the reservations they have with processing these bikes. It's all about making sure the vehicle is legitimate and not stolen; but I am a guy who strongly believes that the shortest route between point A and point B is a staight line. They don't share the same ideaology.
Anyway, if I can get the registration and the plate in on Monday or Tuesday, it's suppose to be 60 on Wednesday. I will likely run down to a DIFFERENT dmv and do the written test and road test. If I get 'em later, I suppose I'll have to wait. I guess that if you have had a similar experience and I have had one almost like yours, then I would surmise, that others have their nightmare as well.
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Post by WildMan on Jan 9, 2010 23:52:42 GMT -5
aileronjack / wolfhound I went into NY DMV w/ my papers, I had my plate & on my way home in 15 minutes..
David Sr.
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Post by wolfhound on Jan 10, 2010 8:06:28 GMT -5
Jack, we are lucky. i think that the State of Penn. has made it almost impossible to register a Chinese scoot. Any body out there, if I am wrong please correct me. There is no such thing as a straight line when dealing with government agencies. They have to do something to justify the existance of all those working there.
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Post by aileronjack on Jan 10, 2010 12:46:09 GMT -5
Okay Dwild: Rub it in.......I guess you have prettier legs than I do. Dang gone wolfhound sounds like your DMV is worst than ours. Remember, I still haven't gotten it. Right now I am 70+ days trying to get the title and registration. My dealer didn't get the original MCO to me on time so I had to pay taxes and penalties as well. It is definitely NOT a straight line. Don't forget the firey hoops and alligator pit. One burns your @$$... the other leaves you with less @$$.
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Post by wolfhound on Jan 10, 2010 12:49:27 GMT -5
Jack, the GA DMV cant hold a candle to 70 days and still waiting. LA has perfected this to an art form!!
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Post by wolfhound on Jan 10, 2010 12:52:42 GMT -5
Jack, lets go throw rocks at David, Sr. 15 minutes indeed!!! 8^)
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Post by als01seville on Jan 10, 2010 14:30:33 GMT -5
Ok, you guys can throw stones at me as well, 45 minutes but that was because I had to take the TRIKE driving test. Actually I was sitting on my Trike waiting for my turn. The actual test took all of 10 minutes, but after the test they gave me the paper stating that I passed went back inside, paid for my License Plate and ADIOS AMIGOS:) Then in about three weeks I got my Title RIDE LIKE YOU STOLE IT AS THEY SAY:) Now be nice and make sure the rocks are NOT TO BIG. Alleyoop
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Post by aileronjack on Jan 10, 2010 19:52:59 GMT -5
Hey Als01seville, we'll throw em slowly. The ones we will be throwing will not have a diameter of more than 4" and no more weight than 2 lbs. They will meet FDA standards so as not to inflict too much dizziness; and EPA quality standards so as to not bring harm to the local ecosystem after they land on the ground. They will be certified by the The Federal Bureau of Alcohol Tobbacco and Firearms as friendly assault weapons and specified by the American Rock Throwers Association for velocity speeds of no more than 25fps. Lastly, they will be rectified by the national mental health agency as easy on the psyche of any targeted persons. The local DMV can kiss our @$$ 'cause they won't need to be registered and they won't be made in China!!! Hoorah!
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Post by als01seville on Jan 10, 2010 21:49:23 GMT -5
HAHAHA!! I feel sorry for you guys having so much trouble with the DMV. Heck here in the Burbs of Chicago the DMV didn't even know how to test me and my brother-in law on the Trike. I was waiting in line behind another car and the guy was admireing the Trike asking me all kinds of questions and then he told me to go around the car and to go where they test the motorcycles. So I went around and there was a woman who was going to test me. She said you have to zigzag around those cones. I told her any three wheel vehicle cannot get around them without knocking them over. So she called the guy over and he came and kicked the middle cone out. So all I had to do was go right and then left and that was it for that test. Then she told me to go to the end and stop there, and in front about 30 feet away was a white line and 6 feet from there were red lines spaced about a foot apart there were about 6 lines. She told me when I hit the white line to hit the breaks and stop within the red lines. So I started and hit the white line and then hit the breaks and stopped within the red lines. She then told me that I was to SLOW, she had a timer I didn't know I had to do this within a certain time frame. So she told me to go around again and this time I cranked on it and hit the breaks at the white line and the trike SLID about 2 feet but I stopped within the time frame and within the limit of 12 feet. Then the last test was go back again to the same starting line and when I again hit the white line I was to swear Left or Right around the Red Lines and then stop with my front wheel in the box on the other side of the red lines. And that was the entire test. Alleyoop
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Post by wolfhound on Jan 10, 2010 21:51:36 GMT -5
Jack, lets throw gently at Alley Oop. He is old, ya know!!!
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Post by WildMan on Jan 10, 2010 21:58:14 GMT -5
Hay, ;D ;D ;D You Dawg's are Brutal!! Visas Pit bulls!!
As far as prettier legs, I doubt my 4 times the normal size disabled left leg, that swells, splits, & oozes on a daily basis qualifies as a pretty leg, now it may have been my masculine & gorgeous upper torso that couldn't be resisted that help speed the process up!! And that's as far as I should go here, now if you want to send & email I could continue this conversation.. ;D ;D ;D
David Sr.
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Post by als01seville on Jan 10, 2010 22:03:37 GMT -5
Wolfhound/Jack, Yea, GEEZ take it easy on me, have some respect for your ELDERS:) Alley
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Post by aileronjack on Jan 10, 2010 23:19:05 GMT -5
Just remember you "older guys" aren't that much "older" than me. Dang gone Dwild....hate to hear about that leg. Was that the one that got hurt in that wreck? Al...I haven't forgotten the knowledge you, jrryan, and dwild offer around here on a daily basis. If it weren't for you guys many of us newbies would be left to fend for ourselves. We're just all having fun. Without the jocularity and the light hearted jabs, life might get a little boring. It's just what happens when a bunch of guys get together and start working on a project. Whether it's on a construction site, the ball field, or on a forum for trike riders, it's just a guy thing. I just wish we could all get together for a beer at the White House.
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Post by WildMan on Jan 11, 2010 0:04:51 GMT -5
aileronjack Ya, the well remembered motorcycle crash.. I've been laid out in a corn field, & was acquainted w/ the asphalt twice, but the last acquaintance w/ the asphalt was the most damaging, the most painful, & the most expensive.. I'm reminded everyday, that ether I or something screwed up.. When ever I get on a motorcycle or the scooters, I'm reminded, because it's more difficult to mount & or shift a bike now..
Now as far as the funning, the jabs, & the hurtful stone throwing, I was terribly offended!! ;D NA, I thought it was pretty funny, made me chuckle..
If I had to go through what you Dawg's did w/ DMV, I'd been screaming.. And you don't want to see me screaming!!
David Sr.
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Post by wolfhound on Jan 11, 2010 18:04:22 GMT -5
Alley, I was thinking about tossing a brick but thought better of it. David, sorry about that leg. I blew mine on a bike in my 20s and it used to swell up a lot but nothing like what you have to deal with. As to how you got the license----I aint even gonna go there!!! Jack. not much older than you? Thanks for the compliment. Come May I am 8 years older than Alley Oop, and 27 years older than you and David. My youngest son is 2 years older than you whipper snappers. (bunch a young punks don give an ol man no respect!!!!!) 8^) With out laughter there is no life.
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Post by aileronjack on Jan 11, 2010 19:31:31 GMT -5
Yes... dwild is working through a troublesome situation. But if I could venture a half educated guess, he would rather we view him as just one of the dawgs; and a vehement fan of trike riding. I would suppose that he is much like the rest of us; a regular guy that, despite his aggravated setbacks, pursues life with an insatiable hunger that defies age, ill health, and occasional droughts of beer.
WOW. !!!!! wolfhound .... if you're 74 ys old (27 yrs older than I am). I hope that I will be able to ride 06 Tank Touring 150cc 07 Tank TK250T-2 250cc 09 TGB/Peirspeed Delivery 50 09 IceBear 150-8 150cc Trike 02 Tomos Revival 50 cc and a Partridge in a pear tree
when I am 74 y/o. You go boy!!!!
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Post by WildMan on Jan 11, 2010 21:18:22 GMT -5
wolfhound OK, should I call you DAD, or OLD MAN, or just BIG BROTHER??
How did I get my license?? Well that's a vary good question!! Actually I Aced every single road test (car, motorcycle, Class A w/ hazmat, tanker endorsements), maybe it's deception.. May be I should add that in 2001, I almost died when I a$$ ended a stopped car a 65 mph, would've Mercy Flighted me, but chopper was out of range.. Peel my nose half off, smash my sinuses, broke my jaw, got plates & screws in my face too. When I was YOUNGER (DAD!!), it was SPEED, the last years deal it was like 4:00 am cold, wet, & raining, & too many hours behind the wheel of a big truck (tractor trailer). I used to tell my dispatcher "I said I have my license, I didn't say I could drive!!"... Dispatchers response "I'm beginning to not like you!!"..
David Sr.
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