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Post by 62woody on Jul 12, 2007 21:54:56 GMT -5
Update on my friend's overheating Pegaus: (Not sure if it's an 06 or 07, but he bought it in May 07) He took it to the dealer last Tuesday after it started overheating and his gas gauge had been dead for over 4 weeks with no new part coming in to the dealership. He got a little confrontational with his dealer who told him "If I can't get parts from my distributor, I can't poop one out for you" to which to he rplied "That's not my problem, have you heard of Fed Ex overnight? I'll be back next Tuesday to pick it up". This Tuesday, all was well with a new gauge cluster and larger radiator installed under warranty...Sometimes being confrontational works!
For you taller riders, the Tank Touring is about the largest 150cc scoot I've found. That's why I bought it instead of the Qlink (Besides the fact that my friend and I would have looked gay riding matching scooters to work) Pisses me off that his scoot is faster than mine (12hp vs. 8hp) , but having room for my knees was more important.
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Post by Admin on Jul 13, 2007 11:45:58 GMT -5
I see we have a growing Peg club. In answer to previous questions about changes with the new model, they are primarily with the cooling system. I just got off the phone with Q and they say that the new model has a larger radiator and larger vent opening. I would recommend buying from a local dealer if you have one. If problems arise, you have better support. Also, he incurred the cost to stock the bike you test rode and the prep will probably be a little more professional.
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Post by captainharlock on Jul 13, 2007 14:14:08 GMT -5
Dawg,
I just got back from my test ride....WOW! Great handling bike, good acceleration! Very comfortable! I was impressed. I've ridden all sorts of older bikes from the 1960's and 1970's and this scoot bit my a** off. The leaflets that the dealer has on hand show that the bike only has a 9.4 HP engine. Is this wrong?? I thought that the 12 HP engine was standard! Could he have an "old" leaflet? Also, the bike would not go faster then 50 MPH. Could this be that the "demo" has only 24 Miles on her? And not broken in yet? I told the dealer what I could pay from the bike shop in NJ. He said he would try to make me a deal on one. With a "free" trunk! I'm not going to be buying this scoot until early August. But, yes maybe I should by locally and not 350 miles away....
Anymore advice on the buying local vs. internet would by nice.... By the way the dealer said that he read out of the dealer handbook that if the bike was delivered and assembled by the owner that the warranty would in fact be voided. Unlike what I was told by a Qlink Rep. last night.
Who to trust???
Captain Harlock
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Post by jeepers94 on Jul 13, 2007 14:58:24 GMT -5
Captain the max torque is 9.0 but it is 12 HP. The trunk is standard equipment now,as far as I know.My Peg would do 60+ when I had 17 km on it. The speedo is in mph,the odometer is in km. I agree,try to get the best deal you can from your most local dealer. In my case the nearest 3 dealers are all about 100 miles away,in three different directions.As for the warranty if assembled by owner,I would want to see it in print so I was sure. I thought my owners manual would mention the warranty,but it doesn't.
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Post by Admin on Jul 13, 2007 16:41:23 GMT -5
Something is wrong here if that bike won't top over 50. Make sure the one you are looking at is a genuine QLINK Pegasus. There are some cheaper GY6 look-alikes but they don't have the same power plant. A Pegasus should run at least 60 out of the box and close to or at 70 after broken in. Who is the dealer?
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Post by bobpt on Jul 13, 2007 18:56:34 GMT -5
I have my scooter up for sale and I am planning on buying a Pegasus. I would like to buy from my local dealer (75 miles a way) but apparently, the dealer is not interested in selling me one. I called two weeks ago and spoke with him. He said that he has never sold a Pegasus but knows that Qlink is a very good brand. Doesn't know what the MSRP is and has no idea what he would charge me. Not only that, If I did order one from him, he would have it dropped shipped to me??? I said that I could order one from any Qlink dealer and have it shipped to me. I am interested in a B & M place doing the prep. Well, OK then, I could come and pick it up. He would get back to me about a price. After a week, never heard a word from him. I called again and he said that he just didn't have time to look it up and get back to me!!! He would check and get back to me on Monday (spoke with him on a Friday). Never got back to me. A week later on Saturday I drove to the dealership and met the guy. "Oh yeah, I remember you. Sorry, I havn't had time to check on a price." He'd get back to me on Monday. It is now Friday and still no word. So, do I order one online and have it shipped to me? Looking at www.menintools.com as they gave me the best price quote so far. If I would happen to have a problem, is the local Qlink dealer (I use the term loosely) obliged to repair things for me under warranty? Or am I on my own?
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Post by jeepers94 on Jul 13, 2007 20:14:57 GMT -5
I went through the same thing with 2 different TGB dealers.I don't know why they claim they are dealers when they won't get you a scooter. The dealer I bought my scooter from did sell TGB, but I lost my interest in them after these 2 dealers.I,of course ended up buying the Pegasus,and do no regret it!
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Post by captainharlock on Jul 13, 2007 20:24:57 GMT -5
Something is wrong here if that bike won't top over 50. Make sure the one you are looking at is a genuine QLINK Pegasus. There are some cheaper GY6 look-alikes but they don't have the same power plant. A Pegasus should run at least 60 out of the box and close to or at 70 after broken in. Who is the dealer? Dawg, The dealer is: Westerville Service Center in Westerville, OH. The owner George seems to be a very nice guy! Is it possible that I was driving a 2006 or maybe a CFMoto E Charm CF150T! They look almost alike. Was this model made in 2005? It has all of the Pegasus stickers and such. I'll post a picture of the leaflet after my wife gets off her computer. I don't have the MFP connected to my machine to make a scan.... Thanks, Captain Harlock
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Post by mkjeld76 on Jul 18, 2007 12:48:17 GMT -5
I've had my 07 peg almost a week the front is different with an alien looking head above grill. It's been running at mid way on the temp gauge. Just past 100 miles runs great no problems. Will get it registered friday so I won't have to sneak around ;D
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Post by Admin on Jul 18, 2007 13:53:14 GMT -5
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Post by fabini on Jul 21, 2007 5:35:13 GMT -5
Dawg, Thank you for posting those photos of the revamped Pegasus. Since mine overheats I am interested in anything they do to address this issue. Seeing an enlarged front grill tells me they know the overheating is a major issue. I wonder if there is an enlarged radiator behind that new grill? - Fabini
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Post by Admin on Jul 21, 2007 12:29:05 GMT -5
Word from QLINK is that the radiator is larger. If you are having problems, your dealer will fix it. I hope you have a good dealer. If your dealer isn't aware of the fix, have him contact QLINK.
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Post by pegasus on Jul 28, 2007 20:43:13 GMT -5
Hi All, I'm a new Pegasus owner. The review and comments here led me to test driving one. After driving a few different scooters I chose the pegasus. So, I have logged about 460 miles and this is what has broken so far. The "Caution Hot" emblem on the heat shield fell off one day on a back road never to be found. I turned around and looked for 10 minutes for it. The parking break lever broke when I was showing a friend who was interested in buying one. A heat shield mount broke. Now the shield rattles at certain RPMs. Other then that, I had a high heat situation when going on a long fast ride (5-6 mile stretch of open road at 55-60MPH) two days ago. It only happened once. Today I was doing 60-65 for a longer stretch of road, but no issue. Weird At 60-65MPH I get a vibration in the floor board. Not too bad, but noticeable. Anyone else get a vibration? Other then all that, I'm enjoying this scoot! Anyone else with a vibration at 60ish MPH?
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Post by newpeg on Jul 30, 2007 13:21:37 GMT -5
I just purchased a Q-link Pegasus. However, I have found that at about 50mph it begins to shake, definitely not a smooth ride. The manual I received state its top speed was 52mph; however in this forum I read that it ran at 69mph. I'm confused. Which is correct? Also when I picked up my scooter from the dealer evidently the tire pressure had not been checked. So I put the required 36 psi hoping that would stop the shaking but it did not. Do you have any suggestions what the problem could be?
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Post by jeepers94 on Jul 30, 2007 16:40:33 GMT -5
What some people do not understand,a lightweight scooter is not going to ride as smooth as a car or even a motorcycle.Compared to other 150 scooters the Pegasus does ride smooth. I had mine at about 67mph today on a county highway. It did have a little vibration,but this was on a road that hasn't seen work for 15 years. Running your tires at maximum pressure is NOT going to give a smoother ride. I run 30 to 32psi. The manual states max speed is GREATER THAN 52.7mph! It is,is it not? I would rather have an underestimated speed,than like others I have seen. On that auction site they constantly claim 75mph for scooters that will not even do 50! The good thing is you have a warranty.If it has a vibration problem,have it checked. Tha caution "HOT" plate coming off has been mentioned by others.These plates get hot then cool over and over.This cause the screws to loosen,and they should be checked frequently. What do you mean,by a high heat situation? Mine did get to the pink zone,but never to the red.
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Post by pegasus on Jul 30, 2007 17:39:41 GMT -5
What some people do not understand,a lightweight scooter is not going to ride as smooth as a car or even a motorcycle.Compared to other 150 scooters the Pegasus does ride smooth. I had mine at about 67mph today on a county highway. It did have a little vibration,but this was on a road that hasn't seen work for 15 years. I realize that lightweight scooter falls prey to things more so then a vehicle that weighs more than it. I rode other scoots and the Pegasus made it on my credit card I was curious if anyone else gets a speed-dependent vibration in the floor boards, not present in the handles. Tha caution "HOT" plate coming off has been mentioned by others.These plates get hot then cool over and over.This cause the screws to loosen,and they should be checked frequently. Mine was fastened to the heat shield with brass rivets. What do you mean,by a high heat situation? Mine did get to the pink zone,but never to the red. Mine rode up into the pink zone. It did not over heat. What puzzled me was I was not on a very long ride that day and only a few miles were in high-sustained speed, and, a few days later, I did about 8-10 miles, almost flat out, at 60-65 MPH and the temperature didn't go into the pink. Thanks for commenting on the vibration and heat qualities you've noticed with your scoot. ;D Ciao, Tom
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Post by jeepers94 on Jul 30, 2007 20:43:27 GMT -5
My dealer replaced the rivets with stailess steel screws.They do loosen after awhile though. I am thinking of using locktite,but don't know if it can take the heat. As for the slight vibration I get above 60mph,I don't have a windshield,which might have something to do with it. The wind resistance on a scooter like the Pegasus is something else to deal with. Heat gauges can be misleading,just like othe Chinese gauges. One big thing,don't overfill your coolant. That will lead to overheating. Don't be afraid to use your warranty, if you do have problems.
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Post by WarrenS on Jul 31, 2007 8:04:31 GMT -5
. One big thing,don't overfill your coolant. That will lead to overheating. Don't be afraid to use your warranty, if you do have problems. You can't overfill your coolant. The radiator has to be filled to the brim. On the other hand overfilling the overflow container will be messy at the very least.
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Post by jeepers94 on Jul 31, 2007 14:37:24 GMT -5
You put the coolant in the overflow container! As I said,do not overfill it! Or,as it is called in the manual,the COOLANT TANK! I did not say radiator.
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Post by joetchicopee on Jul 31, 2007 18:30:18 GMT -5
After reading the reviews and discussions about the Pegasus 150 I was beginning to think this was the one for me and I would be willing to pay a little more than I anticipated to get something with such a great review. Then I saw the posts today about the overheating and that makes me a little nervous. It sounds like the heating problem could be with the 06's instead of the 07's but that is just a guess. It will make me think twice because I located a dealer in New Hampshire today with both an 06 for $2195 and an 07 for $2495. I will ask specifically about the radiator sizes in each when I see them next week. He also tells me of a customer who has 8000 miles on his Pegasus. Will ask if that is an 06 or 07. I'm hoping the overheating problem is resolved because this sounds like a nice ride.
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Post by joetchicopee on Jul 31, 2007 18:32:43 GMT -5
I am beginning to wonder about the dealers though. The first one I called in Massachusetts said they no longer handle scooters.
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Post by jeepers94 on Jul 31, 2007 21:13:43 GMT -5
There are many with 06 models that haven't had this problem. Like I said before,Qlink gives a 2 year warranty on parts and labor.Most Chinese scooters have a parts only warranty. I don't see any overheating problems on mine. I still feel it is one of the better scooters in the under $3k price range. I will say,part of the problems with our Pegs are caused by us pushing them. I don't think ANY 150 should be driven over 60mph for long. I wonder how many oh problems there would be at a more resonable 55mph. That is 1 reason I am looking at bigger scooters for next year.Of course with a $5000 + or - sticker.
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Post by joetchicopee on Aug 1, 2007 11:17:37 GMT -5
jeepers94,
I appreciate the info and opinion. It could be that since it will do over 60 that some riders naturally get used to that and perhaps do push it more than it should be for an extended time. As a beginner, that speed makes me nervous anyway so I don't think that would be a problem for me if I do end up with one of those. Also I may not make the move until 08. Wonder what changes an 08 model might have.
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Post by Admin on Aug 1, 2007 12:36:05 GMT -5
Those of you reporting vibration may want to try balancing the wheels.
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Post by powerride on Aug 1, 2007 15:14:56 GMT -5
I have a 06 pegasus it does 60 tops. I starts shaking around 50 the rear wheel looks out of round when spinning on the center stand. My plastic parking brake lever broke (so what). I do like it, the acceleration is great !! I would like too see a 200cc or 250cc pegasus soon !
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Post by pegasus on Aug 1, 2007 20:39:52 GMT -5
Two other things, I've noticed with mine, maybe 3.
My pegasus hesitates at throttle that would keep it at 25-30 mph. Closer to 25mph, cold more so then warm, but it still does it, just not as bad. Above 25-30 mph, all is good. I weigh 165Lbs.
The front wheel bearings are leaking grease and it's slinging onto the rims.
There was one other thing I was wondering, but I can't remember it... Later maybe.
Has anyone noticed these things as well?
P.S. Thank you Dawg for the forum and every Pegasus owner that contributes here. And everyone else too! ;D
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Post by kmtsmom on Aug 1, 2007 23:01:52 GMT -5
I don't know for sure but the grease you are seeing could be from your speedometer cable. I had grease all over my front wheel and then my speedometer starting acting really weird. It was only like that for a couple of days and then went back to normal, but the dealership had already ordered a new one and so they installed the new speedometer at no cost to me. I love the 2 year warranty on parts and labor. The dealership also replaced the rivets on the Too Hot plate on my exhaust with screws that hold it on better. I thought I noticed a little bit of a hesitation at slower speeds but I think it was the uneven pavement in the road I was on. I know some of the roads can be the cause of roughness on my scooter or in my car. Even with the little things I have had to deal with, I still am loyal to and love my "Q". Until I get a bigger scoot next year that is. LOL Deb
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Post by fabini on Aug 2, 2007 8:21:29 GMT -5
joetchicopee - I am the rider with over 8,000 km on his Pegasus the New Hampshire dealer told you about. Today, I have over 11,200 km on it. That's about 6,700 miles. Mine overheats. I am constantly taking the front plates off and adding coolant to the radiator. For anyone who is wondering - I am doing it properly, I could give technical training classes on it. I have taken off the front engine cover to allow air to flow over the engine. This helps, but is a danger in the rain for electrical components.
The New Hampshire dealer had my bike in his shop for four weeks and had no clue whatsoever on how to fix my overheating problem. I do enjoy riding the Pegasus. However, I cannot recommend this particular dealer. I have been in direct contact with QLink about my bike’s issues and hope to have some resolution soon.
My advice to you and all scooter enthusiasts is to only use a dealer with a complete and stand-alone repair area. Someone who’s been in the motorcycle business a while. It appears to me now that many retailers are jumping into scooters without a real motorcycle background. That’s not good for us or the scooter distributers. - Fabini
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Post by joetchicopee on Aug 2, 2007 20:01:12 GMT -5
fabini,
Never thought I would be talking to the person he referred to. I am sad to hear about your overheating problem. For your sake and mine too because I was pretty excited about the Pegasus. I sure would like to hear how you make out. I hope they come up with a good final solution for the scooters that do overheat. Apparently it is a great bike because even those who have the heating problem still love riding it. I appreciate the information on the dealer. All this info is a great education for me. I still plan to look at it and hopefully ride one while there. Do they have a Pegasus that you can actually ride at the dealership?
Again, I would appreciate if you would let me know when they come up with a cure. Thanks.
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Post by gymbeau on Aug 3, 2007 7:08:28 GMT -5
Vibration - Mine will get a little 'shakey' at about 55, but smoothes some at 60, ?harmonic stabilization??? Every bike I have owned has had a sweet spot and a not so sweet spot.
Heat - I have faith that my issue will be resolved. Unfortunately we have taken 2 steps back with the installation of the larger radiator. The suggestion that somehow those of us that have the heat issues are riding too fast/hard, and 'I haven't had those problems"..... is insulting! to the owners, and Qlink. Why would Qlink address this if it was not a design issue?
If you are considering a Pegasus, do not let this stop you. This is not a problem with the newer ones, and I am convinced that you will not find a better company in the china scooter business.
As for my (non)fix, I will take the scooter back to the shop, and give it another try. In the meantime I will remove the front cowl and do the burp routine. I do not think that this will fix the problem, due to the fact that it was not as bad with the old radiator and is worse now. Fan switch? The gas gauge works intermittently now, so who knows what electrical gremlins are involved.
Wish I had a scooter I could ride!
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