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Post by 62woody on Aug 3, 2007 20:28:01 GMT -5
My friend with the 06 overheating Pegaus is going through the same exact thing. His dealer installed a larger radiator under warranty 2 weeks ago and it's still running hot. It isn't spitting coolant out the overflow any more, but runs up in the red zone when he has it at 55mph for more than a few minutes.
My Tank Touring blew a drive belt at 50 this morning in a curve. I thought the back wheel had locked up and bout messed myself before I realized what had happened. Thought I ws going to get to test the armor pads in that fancy new riding jacket I bought. My scoot only has 1600 km on it, so I'm ordering a new Kevlar belt.
-Woody
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Post by Admin on Aug 4, 2007 23:49:43 GMT -5
I'm going to let you guys in on a dirty little secret. I'm aware that there are some who have had legit problems with heating. I'm not one of them. I'm also aware that sometimes guages out of China are not calibrated correctly. I will write to QLINK suggesting checking into the guages. You can overfill coolant and cause it to boil over. If your guage shows hot and coolant is filled properly, you probably don't have a problem. Remember, this is a clone of a Honda engineered scoot.
Now, on to the dirty secret. It has long been a practice of some in the industry to post on forums posing as innocent customers. They praise their own products and pretend to be owners of the competition having nothing but trouble. Don't take every post here as gospel.
I can only post my experience with the Peg. It's still the top ride in my stable. I admit that I mostly ride it lightly in an urban environment but when I push her, she is a beautiful lady.
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Post by joetchicopee on Aug 12, 2007 21:10:55 GMT -5
I did get to look at a Pegasus in person last week at the dealer in New Hampshire previously mentioned. I did not get to ride it. I do not have a motorcycle license yet and New Hampshire dealers would not let me try anything out, even in the parking lot.
I am still interested in the Pegasus but am still nervous about the overheating problems. I would love to hear from someone who has had that problem and has had it satisfactorily resolved.
I assume the 08 models will be coming out soon. Does anyone have any information about any changes to the cooling systems for the 08's?
I would love for the Pegasus to be my first scooter but I do not want an overheating problem. Would love to know that is solved before I make the move. I even considered a Kymco model but they are a lot more expensive, so I think I will wait for improvements to the Pegasus.
Would love to hear from new Pegasus owners to see if you are still happy with your purchase. I went through all the posts to the Pegasus reviews again tonight and it still sounds like a nice scooter. Thanks for the information. Love this forum.
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Post by Admin on Aug 12, 2007 21:46:34 GMT -5
I did get to look at a Pegasus in person last week at the dealer in New Hampshire previously mentioned. I did not get to ride it. I do not have a motorcycle license yet and New Hampshire dealers would not let me try anything out, even in the parking lot. I am still interested in the Pegasus but am still nervous about the overheating problems. I would love to hear from someone who has had that problem and has had it satisfactorily resolved. I assume the 08 models will be coming out soon. Does anyone have any information about any changes to the cooling systems for the 08's? I would love for the Pegasus to be my first scooter but I do not want an overheating problem. Would love to know that is solved before I make the move. I even considered a Kymco model but they are a lot more expensive, so I think I will wait for improvements to the Pegasus. Would love to hear from new Pegasus owners to see if you are still happy with your purchase. I went through all the posts to the Pegasus reviews again tonight and it still sounds like a nice scooter. Thanks for the information. Love this forum. I still haven't had any problems. I'm curious as to the type of riding you plan to do. I think the overheating thing is way overblown and the few reported cases are in very warm climates. That's just my opinion and I could be wrong but seldom am. My opinion is based on one machine and a little other info here and there. I think the Peg has been the most scrutinized scooter on this forum. Like you, I would love to hear from more Peg owners about the good and the bad. I just hate to see it focused on a problem that is rare and sometimes caused by owner made modifications or not knowing how to properly fill the coolant.
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Post by bigiron on Aug 12, 2007 21:54:44 GMT -5
I wonder if these overheating scoots are running straight antifreeze or 50/50 ? Water carries away heat better than antifreeze. What does the owners manual say?
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Post by joetchicopee on Aug 13, 2007 11:05:24 GMT -5
Most of my riding will be about town, running errands. Would like to have the ability to make a run out to the reservoir for a little hiking. That is about a 20 mile trip on smaller state roads. I can envision getting up and taking off some day to do some exploring and being gone all day on backroads. I am a beginner so I do not anticipate riding fast. I think I would probably be satisfied to travel 40-45 mph on the road with the ability to flow with traffic if need be or to get out of the way if necessary. Would like to be able to take my wife for a brief trip to the ice cream store. I also am thinking about taking it on a trailer on day trips to spend the day exploring a new town, etc. I am not anticipating riding double very often. I know as I get used to it, I will probably want to go faster, but that is not my plan at this time. I do not anticipate ever taking it onto a major highway. In fact my daily commute to work takes about 25 minutes and the speed limit is never over 40 on any of the roads I travel. Many are only 35 mph.
By the way, where can I find an inexpensive trailer to carry a scooter?
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Post by joetchicopee on Aug 13, 2007 11:08:36 GMT -5
Interesting question about straight antifreeze or 50/50 mix. Hope someone sees that post and responds to it. Surely the answer couldn't be that simple, could it?
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Post by 90GTVert on Aug 13, 2007 14:56:54 GMT -5
I've seen several posts from people that have been diluting the 50/50 premix to 25/75 by adding 50% distilled water, and they claim lower operating temps. I haven't tried this, but if you don't live where it gets extremely cold, it would be worth trying. Stan I wonder if these overheating scoots are running straight antifreeze or 50/50 ? Water carries away heat better than antifreeze. What does the owners manual say?
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Post by thezapper on Aug 13, 2007 15:31:27 GMT -5
I've had my Pegasus now for about 3 months and about 2200KM. I'm driving around (approx 20miles round trip to work) in 102+F in high humidity Texas heat. No problems so far. Occassionally, it'll get 'close' to the pink zone but that's it. Oh yea, for giggles I installed a tach on my pegasus as well.... Check it out here: www.tinytach.com/tinytach/index.php Works like a charm.
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Post by mkjeld76 on Aug 13, 2007 18:30:45 GMT -5
I have a 07 pegasus and have not had any problems what's so ever. I drained my coolant the first week I had it refilled with prestone extend life 50 / 50. It has been in the 100's this past week and it has run warmer than normal between half and 3/4 on the gauge never in the pink. I didn't test mine till the ride home after I bought it a month ago. I plan on riding it in the Hills on Wheels rally this weekend. I want to get a windshield any pegasus owners like the windshield and do you recommend it?
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Post by joetchicopee on Aug 14, 2007 11:32:57 GMT -5
There don't seem to be many QLink dealers in the Northeast. I have been trying to contact the ones listed on: wwwqlinkmotor.com and am not having a lot of luck. There appears to be none in Vermont, none in Rhode Island, the one in Connecticut no longer carries them, two in Massachusetts although the message at one sounded very shaky, one in New Hampshire. There appear to be 5 in New York state but I haven't checked the distances yet.
I just contacted a dealer in Connecticut who deals strictly with scooters and asked him if he would consider carrying QLinks or at least a one time sale. It is 50 miles away but I would feel more comfortable having a place to go with problems.
Never thought it would be this hard to buy a scooter.
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Post by hillbilly on Aug 14, 2007 16:20:35 GMT -5
One of my friends has a Pegasus so I asked her how it had done lately while it has been hot here and she said her temp gauge was reading about the same as usual. I don't think she ever does more than putt around town at 40 and under though so she isn't working it very hard.
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Post by dskofich on Aug 16, 2007 21:41:27 GMT -5
i dont know if qlinks come with antifreeze already installed in the crate or not but i sure would try draining the antifreeze and mix at 60water 40 antifreeze. thats good for -40.there is also a product called watter wetter that will reduce temps by as much as 10 degrees.ive personally tested this myself and can verify it works.also i do not know how hoses are run on these to the radiator but it is possible the is an air block either partial of ful in the line somewhere that needs to get bled out.i have over 20 years experience in the auto - small engines repair business and have owned my own small engine shop for 15 years.im new to scooters,but have fought with many an overheating snowmobile. wonderfull forum guys!love it.Dan
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Post by sharonlou59 on Aug 21, 2007 19:37:31 GMT -5
I just purchased a qlink Legacy and Im trying to get my license I cant seem to master the right hand u turn in 20 ft do you think I could do it with the pegasus ?? I can borrow one from a friend
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Post by Admin on Aug 21, 2007 20:22:39 GMT -5
I just purchased a qlink Legacy and Im trying to get my license I cant seem to master the right hand u turn in 20 ft do you think I could do it with the pegasus ?? I can borrow one from a friend Oh yeah, the Peg will be an easier ride for the test. See if your friend will let you practice on it first.
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Post by redscootergirl on Aug 29, 2007 0:20:39 GMT -5
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Post by redscootergirl on Aug 29, 2007 0:27:01 GMT -5
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Post by jeepers94 on Aug 29, 2007 10:56:26 GMT -5
To get the 2 year warranty Qlink says the dealer must setup and prep the scooter. Most online dealers do not fully assemble or prep their scooters.Qlink wants to have some kind of control over their bikes, and to know it was setup correctly.
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Post by highhans on Aug 29, 2007 12:15:55 GMT -5
I have been a Qlink dealer in milwaukee for 2 years.We have sold about 5 pegasus.Only one has this problem.We have had the bike for over 2 months.And qlinks fixes has not worked.In these 2 months qlink has giving me the run around.If any other dealers out the,Has qlink ever paid you for warranty work.If I had to do it all over again I would go directly threw CF moto,because as Johnny Tai Qlink does not make it they just sell them.
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Post by WarrenS on Aug 29, 2007 14:43:29 GMT -5
Today I stopped in the previous poster's place and asked if he still sold Qlink and he said no as of today.
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Post by slowscootin07 on Sept 2, 2007 16:30:35 GMT -5
I posted this in the 125+ section too since I didn't know this thread was still actively going. Here's the copy and yes I have read this whole post in it's entirety.
I'm now taking a good look at the Pegasus since the bigger wheels are a bonus for what I really need. What I'm asking of Peg owners is how fast and stable is this machine at short term speed intervals.
My commute will be about 30 miles each way mostly stop and go at 35-40 mph, but the last/first 10 miles I need more.
There's a dual lane road with a legal speed of 45-55, but you "should" be doing 55-65. This goes for about 7 miles. I can be passed so no biggie.
Then there is a single lane road with legal speeds of 40-50 for 4 miles and you traffic pending, you better be doing 55-60.
This could sum up to 300 miles a week. Do you think the Peg would manage it at those speeds and distance? It's mostly rural driving and the top speed "needs" aren't a given all the time, but definately needed on occasion.
I'm sure a windshield will help at speed and if/when I purchase a Peg, it'll be with one. I was looking at a 250 just for the power and speed, but I really don't want to go that fast or big.
By the way, I'm 165 in full gear. Jeff
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Post by tortoise on Sept 7, 2007 11:01:30 GMT -5
the 10 hp 150cc engine is not designed to maintain speeds over 40 mph for any length of time. Please provide some additional reference links, or an additional personal experience explanation to support your statement. This may indeed be the case with your specific scooter, and that 40 mph cruising speed limitation may also indicate a deficient cooling issue (or some other problem). I don't own a Pegasus, but as a point of reference, my around 9 horsepower 150cc air cooled GY6 seems very happy cruising at 50 mph (indicated) and has a top speed of around 55 mph (indicated) on level ground in the normal upright riding position (no windshield). I have had it up to 60 mph (indicated) on a slight slope in the "tucked" position.
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Post by kmtsmom on Sept 7, 2007 11:55:39 GMT -5
Fabini, I own a Qlink Pegasus, I bought it based on the reviews from this board. I have no other interest in Qlink or any susidaries whatsoever. I ride because I enjoy riding and I like getting better gas mileage. I have had a few problems on and off with the "Q" since my pruchase in early June. The dealership has always taken care of them right away and always at no cost due to the outstanding warranty for a scooter. All that aside, I have a remark about your speed issue. I took my 150cc Qlink Pegasus on a 2hour ride north for a job I had to do. I maintained speeds anywhere from 45-65 the entire trip without any problems at all. At the end of the weekend, I returned home the same way and once again, no trouble and no sweat for my "Q". So I beg to differ with you on the fact that it can not sustain speed for any length of time. My trip is proof positive that it can be done. As far as the way Dawg answered you, I think he was just having some fun (hence the smilie faces) and he answered you factually based on his experience. He was in no way belittling you or anyone else on this board. I do not know Dawg personaly, but I will stand up for him when I think he has been unfairly accused of inappropriate or dangerous answers. I too apologize in advance if I am offending you, that is not my intention. Deb
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Post by jeepers94 on Sept 7, 2007 13:52:48 GMT -5
I also own a Pegasus,and have cruised at 55+ for 6 hours ,other than the few minutes it took to refill. Mine has never overheated either! I would go with the 250+ engine for most long trips of the length I rode,of course. The statement of a 150cc at 40mph is pure garbage. Many scooter experts have pointed out after the scooter gets up to temperature,the distance is not critical!
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Post by slowscootin07 on Sept 7, 2007 14:07:32 GMT -5
fabini, thank you for your concern on my well being and my safety. I've been riding scooters and mopeds for a very long time. My first was a Garelli 50cc air cooled 2 cycle moped that I upped to 70cc-shhhh(Illegal) It's build is similar to the Peg but about 100 pounds lighter. I had no trouble maintaining 45-50 mph all day long in the dead of Chicago's summer and even took it on a non-stop(except for gas) 600 mile round trip to the Dells for the weekend.
If you have a problem with speed on your Peg, then you may have another issue brewing, btw congrats on reaching 7000K. I'm sure many here would love to hear your experiences with it and any problems that you have had.
I wouldn't take Dawg's reply too seriously here. From what I have seen so far the board is full of "F's."
Fun, Facts, Friends and Free.
I do value your opinion just as everyone elses and hope you do too. Here's an example of some fun. Take this tortoise guy for example; I think he's a bit of a smart@$$ with some of his replies, but he's quick witted, very observant and knows what he's talking about to say the least. I would trust his opinion on a topic and I don't even know his name. I still think he had smitten me when I posted a "stupid" poll about what color scoot to buy, but hey no biggie. I'm cool, he's cool, your cool, we're all cool.
Please, enlighten us on your Peg experience. There are many here that would like to know!!! Thanks-Jeff
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Post by Admin on Sept 9, 2007 16:13:40 GMT -5
For those of you following this thread, you might have noticed a few recent posts have disappeared. I'm not a dictator but I won't allow idiots or competitor plants to inject misinformation and strife into this forum. Yes, the Peg will travel the speeds asked about quite nicely. ;D
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Post by savage223 on Sept 9, 2007 21:59:45 GMT -5
Alright- I haven't seen this kind of info yet, so I wanted to post the real deal about how the Peg 150 is on a ride, by the numbers.
I mounted my Garmin QUEST GPS to the bike today, mostly to check the speedometer. (I found it about two-three needle-widths SLOWER than the GPS. For example- to go an actual 45 mph, the speedometer has to read something like 46-1/2.) Most owners realize this already though.
Some data is skewed due to GPS fadeouts, but I figured most of it out. The average speed is questionable, because I stopped six different times and was in town a LOT.
Length of ride: 80.4 Miles Area of route: 193 square miles (big loop) Average speed: 19 mph (up, down, and flat; rural, semi-highway, city) Fastest speed: 73 mph (downhill) Highest altitude: 896 Ft above sea level Lowest altitude: 269 Ft above sea level Ambient Temp: 77-86
Here are some ROUGH stats. Relative to throttle, headwind, etc. Steepest uphill: Roughly 20% Speed uphill: 43mph Steepest time: 2 minutes
Route digest: (Pennsylvania) Elizabethtown @ 12:48 pm Mount Gretna @ 1:16 pm Brickerville @ 1:19 pm Ephrata @ 1:50 pm Akron @ 1:55. One+ hour stop Lancaster @ 3:34 Centerville @ 3:51. Stop for 10 minutes. Salunga @ 4:12 Mt. Joy @ 4:19 Elizabethtown@ 4:57
As some of you may have read, the bike is "new" (2 weeks old with 700+ miles,) and have had a few problems with the cooling system. (See separate post under the 125+ cc section.)
Other than the coolant issue, I can only report one negative: the wheels need balanced. (I suspect.) 50+ mph riding gets the front wheel vibrating some, and it feels like it's out of balance- not something that is wrong or a design / fork issue.
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Post by Admin on Sept 9, 2007 22:44:13 GMT -5
20% grade? That's steeper than steep. I'm surprised the Peg managed over 40 on it. I use a 10% grade for hill testing and it's one of the steepest hills in KC.
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Post by savage223 on Sept 10, 2007 7:35:05 GMT -5
Hmm... maybe I'm reading the data wrong. I'll have to check it next time I'm there. I based it on two track points of the GPS, the time between, the altitude as listed at both points, and the speed. PERHAPS it was the mean speed over those points. That would make sense.
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Post by gymbeau on Sept 10, 2007 15:10:02 GMT -5
My Pegasus will run over 50 easily. It will go over 60, but I am just not comfortable at that speed. It tends to vibrate above 55. Maybe it needs balancing, but either way I think I'll keep it below 55. The speedometer 'red lines' at 50, wonder what the reason for that is?
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