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Post by thezapper on May 5, 2007 23:39:50 GMT -5
Purchased a Qlink Pegasus 150 today (Silver) at Motorcycles.pro store in Irving, TX. Was able to test drive it and another Chinese model (also drove well). Hai treated me good so far. Delivery is on Thursday. Looking forward to posting more experience with it.
TZ
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Post by Aaron on May 5, 2007 23:51:24 GMT -5
TZ congrats, and nice scooter. Best of luck with it! Keep us posted.
Aaron
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Post by Admin on May 6, 2007 21:08:37 GMT -5
We'll look forward to hearing your experience. Ride safe.
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Post by fabini on May 7, 2007 19:34:42 GMT -5
Front Turn Signals - the Pegasus' weak link. Why does the American market demand these poorly designed, cheaply made, and weakly attached lights?
Can you think of a better solution? - Fabini
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Post by Admin on May 9, 2007 23:05:08 GMT -5
You must be riding a different Pegasus than I am. Front turn signals are fine on mine. What do you mean by weak? That's a weak complaint with no details. I'm about to close this thread because I suspect disinformation coming in from competitors. Dawg still rides the Pegasus with no problems. Strong scoot. Turn signals are fine. I stand behind my review. Possible problems with cooling system on some but warranty is honered if you don't screw it up by jacking with the scoot.
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Post by thezapper on May 11, 2007 23:51:48 GMT -5
Got my Pegasus from Motorcycles.pro. It was delivered on Thursday. They are a brick and mortor with web presence in Irving Tx. Hai from Motorcycles.pro made the process very good. So far so good. They are very recommended. Put about 60km on it so far (learning how to ride, MSF course being taken next week). It's very easy and smooth to ride with plenty of power, or at least all that I'd need. Build quality seems excellent. Only minor issues seems to be: a) The trunk who does not open and close so easy... maybe I just havent learned the 'trick' to it yet. b) Gas gauge does not seem so accurate as well, but it does work. I have no problem with the turn signals; they seem strong enough... perhaps would have been 'nice' if they made some noise so you dont forget to turn them off..... but they work fine and I can definetly live with them. No hints of any 'heat' problem (Temp only in the mid-80's here in Dallas) despite my long idling / slow speed driving. I'll post pics and further comments as I learn more... ithis thing is very fun and I am not regretting this purchase at all. Thanks Dawg for the review; it was , for me, what tipped the scale on what scooter to buy.... Hope you can do many more reviews... Great site. ;D TZ
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Post by Admin on May 13, 2007 23:11:47 GMT -5
Zapper, I hope you have many miles of good service from the Pegasus. It's a little obvious that when writing reviews, most writers get a couple hours, or if lucky, several days with the product. I was lucky enough on this one to get several weeks and then I bought it. I'm like you, haven't really had a chance to ride in the really hot weather. Last thing I want to do is steer people the wrong direction. I've ridden a lot of scoots and this one is just a great riding machine.
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Post by thezapper on May 14, 2007 21:21:37 GMT -5
Here's an update based on now 100Mi of riding around my neighborhood (no faster than 45mph so far.. I'm still chicken at >35 or so). 1. The "Gas Guage" issue I reported above.. uh.. embarrassed to say... "Not" an issue... the tank really was low... Dont know how linear the guage is, but fundamentally it seems better now. 2. The trunk is still a little tempermental... Wish it opened / closed / locked more smoothly. But it's useable. 3. After about 40-60mi on the Qlink; occassionally; maybe once every 20-25 stops or so (i.e. A "Stop Sign") the engine would die as the motor rev'd down to idle... A quick quarter to a half turn of the idle adjustment screw fixed this right up (or so it seems.)... maybe I'll be able to dial it back down a bit after the engine breaks in more and loosens up. 4. Here's pic of me... Take my MSF coarse next weekend. Love the Qlink:
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Post by Aaron on May 14, 2007 22:18:25 GMT -5
Nice scoot, check your tire pressure they look low?!? Love the chrome helmet!! LOL
Aaron
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Post by Admin on May 15, 2007 16:33:48 GMT -5
Hey! That looks just like mine!
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Post by thezapper on May 15, 2007 22:27:34 GMT -5
Thx for the tire pressure comment, yes was a bit low (Shoulda checked that when it arrived from the dealer, that pic was taken maybe 1 hr after delivery)..... Tire pressure was like 16-18psi in both tires and should have been ~36.... put 100mi that way too! Ne-ways, it's fine now.... drives even better.
Did GPS testing today on the spedometer...
Pegasus Reading GPS Reading 10 mph 9.5 mph 20 19 25 23-24.
That's as fast as I felt comforable measuring while balancing my GPS in one hand..... :> Gotta find a way to mount it....
TZ
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Post by Admin on May 15, 2007 22:44:06 GMT -5
I'm a little worried about you. Dealer should have checked tire pressure as a routine part of pre-delivery inspection. Lazy dealers are really pissing me off lately. I wonder what else they failed to check. Although I really like QLINK and and the Pegasus in particular, I'm seeing problems with some of the dealerships. My opinion is that QLINK should be a little more selective on who gets to sell them. Good Lord, checking tire pressure is a basic.
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Post by jgalar on May 16, 2007 10:42:20 GMT -5
TZ: How much did they charge you for dealer prep, tax, title etc? I stopped by there (Little Saigon) and looked around. Not sure who I talked to, but I liked the fact that he suggested bikes that had been reliable and stated "don't buy" this one.
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Post by thezapper on May 16, 2007 13:17:11 GMT -5
Think (I'll check my invoice if I'm wrong) was $150.
In my case we made a blanket deal that covered: Bike, Prep, Registration, Title, Tax, Helmet, and Delivery.... so $150 may not be the appropriate figure depending on your deal. I've asked them a few questions post-sale; and their responses have been very prompt and appropriate...
Dawg: Thx... I was def shocked after finding the tire pressure, agree that should be a 'basic' thing during dealer assembly (and I gotta take my blame too: *I* shoulda checked it before putting my rear on it as well!)... Bike has been, and continues to be great (funny the bike did not ride that 'funny' with low pressure) as far as I can tell.... But I'm going to now go over it with a fine tooth comb... I did check all the nuts / bolts for tightness, etc..and everything seemed in order... all / most nuts even had their positions marked with blue marks, etc. Any other suggestions are welcome!
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Post by Admin on May 17, 2007 22:34:45 GMT -5
Yeah, one more suggestion. Don't void your warranty by doing major repairs yourself unless you feel that the dealer is useless. I talk to owners of bikes all the time, even the big three Japanese bikes who don't trust the dealers on service and do their own, so it's a matter of sizing up the service department. I know dealers I wouldn't trust to change the oil and others who know five times what I do. It has nothing to do with brand or model but it has to do with the fact that some dealers are better than others. For the life of me, I can't believe they didn't check tire pressure. The damn thing arrived on a slow boat from China. The simple fact is that the importers and manufacturers don't have as much control over dealers as we might think.
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Post by justscoot on May 19, 2007 9:02:45 GMT -5
It seems that anyone who has a cooling problem is some how blamed for it. I guess that keeps others hopefull that it really is a good product. Scootdawg must be getting a piece of the action for promoting the Pegasus, because he always denies or blames others for the problem. Well It aint no Honda is it. Never had a Honda that overheated in my life. Never had a motorcycle of anykind overheat. But I have a Qlink Pegasus that overheats. If all you city people do is ride to freinds or to the store you probably will not have a problem. Go on a State Highway for a while. Take some extended trips. I hope nobody is planning on riding a Pegasus to a rally, you may never get there! Honest
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Post by Aaron on May 19, 2007 10:27:42 GMT -5
I have never ridden the Pegasus nor even laid hands on it. I do however trust Dawg's opinion. I can assure you we do not have a piece of the action from QLink. We pay all expenses and all staff have full time jobs outside the industry. I have had a new Honda overheat. I didn't blame the bike it had a defective cooling fan... sh!t happens. The percentage of Qlink's with this problem is low. There are far more that are fine than are giving problems. A primary reason we are so fond of Qlink is that they actualy do stand behind the bike as long as it hasn't been monkeyed with. The Pegasus, Qlinks support, and it's price all need to be considered. Is it a Honda? No but if you wanted or could afford a Honda you would have got one. Same thing that brought me to Chinese scoots. I wanted a Honda but couldn't justify $5199 to get a new Helix. Bikes like the Pegasus have proved to be an exceptional value for about half the cost.
Aaron
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Post by Admin on May 21, 2007 0:22:17 GMT -5
I'm gonna step out on a limb here and continue to stand by my review. I try to keep the forum open for all to express opinions but if you are going to run me down, freaking go to the trouble to get your hands on one and ride it. This is the friendly forum. Sorry you have the attitude. Love it or hate it, I don't care. Just have a clue what you are talking about. No, you haven't even seen one. Dude, I've got 7 freaking scooters in the garage and I've ridden 25 more. . I write honest reviews and screw you if you don't like them. Somehow, are you a plant from a compteter? Cheers ;D
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Post by Andi on May 21, 2007 10:20:42 GMT -5
Aaron and Dawg,
Great response to "justscoot's" comments. Since joining I have thouroughly enjoyed all of the posts; the advise given, opinions and experiences shared in an always friendly and welcome atmosphere w/o spam or porn (we all know where to look for that if we so desire)
My first post was out of frustration, after looking around for a while, to find my first Scoot to buy. Needless to say I took Aarons advise and decided on a Bandit XC-150z, fully aware of the fact that his advise was based on his opinions and experiences.
Had this turned into a bad experience I would not have blamed ScootDawg or Aaron, I still made the decision, however I have and will continue to post my experiences. So far so good with the Bandit, we are very happy. I hope to be able to say the same about the next Scoot soon to arrive.
Andi
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Post by Dennis D on May 21, 2007 12:01:46 GMT -5
Although the percentage of QLink Pegasus with the cooling problem is low, it's also high enough that you could call it a pattern, just as problems with other chinese scoots don't necessarily affect all, or even most of them, but enough that people need to know and consider their intended use in light of known weaknesses. I'm already thinking a year or two down the road, and was even thinking about upgrading to a nicer scooter... a Pegasus/E-Charm model, sooner rather than later. But if my present scooter holds up fine running at about 85% WOT visiting IN small towns this summer, I think for now I'll watch and see if the problem ceases to be an issue for scooters sold this year. The problem, as reported, seems to be with people using them in much the same way that I do.
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Post by Admin on May 22, 2007 21:56:32 GMT -5
Thoughtful response Dennis. The cooling system problem, as I reported earlier, does seem to have been a problem with a pattern, however small. I have communicated with QLINK about it and they have been quite honest. They fix the bikes under warranty and they have redesigned the system and they report only a few problems having been turned in for warranty service with the issue. That's a mark of a good company. They track trouble and then move to fix it. It's pretty simple. When you buy a mechanical product, you just can't expect to install a bunch of modifications without voiding the warranty. The same would hold true with Honda, Yamaha or Kymco.
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Post by Dennis D on May 23, 2007 7:28:35 GMT -5
Certainly true... however people buy Yamahas and Hondas and proceed to modify things right away that would void the warranty... because that's what they enjoy doing, to make the bike "their own". Not a problem for a bike with no issues. If it's good enough, you're not going to need that warranty anyway, and if you can read plugs, and change jetting to correspond with any intake/exhaust mods, many people don't worry about the warranty when it's a bike with a proven track record. When I upgrade, I'd rather not even have to worry about any warranty issues, because even for the big name bikes, sometimes just doing scheduled maintanence yourself, you can void the warranty. When I upgrade it'll be more for the certainty that I don't have to concern myself with what might show itself, or happen next, than for the warranty. I would probably be more like Mikey and Kevin on American Chopper, who bought a couple of Vinos and proceeded to tear em down, modding them pretty much first thing, since I can't conceive of bringing a scooter back in and paying shop rates for routine maintenance anyway.
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Post by gymbeau on May 24, 2007 6:06:41 GMT -5
Well i have had the Pegasus for about a month now, and have put just over 1k miles on it. The scooter was supposed to be a toy, but has become my primary means of transportation.
It just keeps running better. It took several cranks before it started after work last night, but ran great after starting. Then there was the time that it wouldn't crank, ....kill switch! The parking break doesn't work, I discovered last week. If I ever have the need for it I guess that I'll fix it.
Next weekend I will change the oil again, and the gear oil, 15w40 in an oil can for the cvt right?
I wish i had something scathing to say, but I have no disappointments, no shattered expectations, if anything the Pegasus has exceeded what I thought a 'cheapchina' scooter would/should be.
I have run it all day at 50/55 in the heat. The temp has never been higher than just above halfway to red. Gas mileage has been 80s to 90. I guess the final word would have to be, I would buy it again.
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Post by Dennis D on May 24, 2007 11:23:17 GMT -5
Thanks for the 1K review. Sounds promising.
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Post by daddyeby on May 24, 2007 21:58:44 GMT -5
Justscoot I dont have a pegasus but this much I do know have been reading and posting on this forum for over a year and I trust what Dawg says with out a question, you how ever seem to have a axe to grind. If you have information that people need to know share it but do not berate people on this forum. We all (members of this forum) count each other as freinds and dont want to hear it.
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Post by Admin on May 24, 2007 23:10:52 GMT -5
Thanks daddyeby. Your $20 is in the mail. ;D
I'm just going to say it one more time and then shut up. I've met the people from QLINK (not all of them, of course) and they have a strong ethic and desire to be a quality team. I was honest and reported that they had a few scoots that had a problem with the cooling system. QLINK was more than honest with me and if memory is correct is was about 10 scooters. Hmmmm.... everybody takes this and runs with it like it is some sort of disaster. QLINK has fixed them under warranty and even replaced a couple. You won't get this service from some other companies that I won't name.
I have several scoots to choose from when I ride, including the Kymco XC and a Vespa ET4. I ride the Pegasus 90% of the time. I don't want to be a tyrant but from now on, if I judge comments or tirades to be idiotic, I'll give the poster ten lashes and a negative karma.
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Post by siestarandy on May 27, 2007 20:36:36 GMT -5
Hey There all. This is an extremely informative site and has been a huge resource in my still ongoing search for a new scoot. I broke a motor mount on the New Star G Scooter, so that is now probably a goner after only 1+ month. So now its back to the Specialized.
I went and saw my local dealer (MrMoped.com, awful website, real building with repair shop and a pretty nice guy)the day I regained my driving priviledges. Fortunately, he carries the Pegasus, so I was able to see one in the flesh for the first time. It is even better looking in person than the pictures would suggest! It was already sold, so I will be going back to test ride a new one this week.
This purchase will be my primary transportation, and I would never consider myself a great mechanic. I have owned dirt bikes in the past and have some skills when it comes to repair, but I'm not confident I can keep one of the really low cost machines on the road. As such, I'm leaning toward something that will give me the best reliability for the lowest price. Which brings me to my questions.
Top Dawg, Since you choose to ride the Pegasus the most, how would you say the bike is holding up so far? Anything in particular you think of would be helpful. Also, nobody ever mentions price on this forum. Like any large purchase, I want to get a great, but fair, deal. I will be taking delivery at the dealer, and will purchase some accessories as well. I think he said they go for $2399. out the door. I dont know what wholesale cost is, but how much more could I expect to save, and still make it a fair deal for him?
Thanks so much for your help and guidence. Have a great Holiday Weekend.
SiestaRandy
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Post by Admin on May 27, 2007 23:26:54 GMT -5
Hey Mr Naptime. I don't know what other scoots your dealer handles but I would sure do comparisons and choose the one that fits your size and desires the best. I have seen the dealer cost list on QL products but I'm afraid it was in confidence. I think the price is fair.
As far as how mine is holding up, it's just fine. As with any scooter, I do take the time to check things and make sure they aren't vibrating loose. I leave it outside a lot more than I should and it's seen a lot of weather. A few of the small screws that hold on body panels are starting to rust a little. I could go the the hardware store and replace them with SS screws It's starting and running great.
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Post by siestarandy on May 28, 2007 16:07:42 GMT -5
Thankx for the feedback, Dawg. I'm really looking forward to getting back on the road again. and soon! Any advise on price?
SiestaRandy
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Post by thezapper on May 28, 2007 22:27:16 GMT -5
Passed my MSF and received TX Moto License... Been legal now for a week.. Coming up to 600Km on my Pegasus; It's been great and continues to run flawlessly. No temp problems. Engine starting to loosen up nicely. I usually run between 35-45mph. Max speed I obtained was around 55mph.. but it felt a bit too fast for me .. sure it could keep going quicker... but pickup is slow after 45-50MPH. Milege-wise: Been getting just under 70MPG... hopefully it'll get a bit better... but not bad. I grabbed some door jam protector to stop the trunk from rattling as Dawg suggested... Worked like a charm. Some observations after 600Km: a. Trunk works fine now after adjusting the locking mechanism (moved it up slightly so that it 'locks' on first slam/close!) and stopped the rattles with a bit of door jam protector. b. Wished the mirrors came out another inch or so to the side... I'm a thin guy and the mirror views are "OK", but not great.... Will keep my eye for aftermarket mirrors that may work a bit better. c. Will be doing first oil change (not counting initial oil top-off). Any suggestions for best oil to use (Live in Dallas Texas -- expect a hot summer soon) on the Pegasus? Suggestions for Gear Oil? Any implications on oil changes / routine maintaince from a warranty perspective? (I really dont want to have to transport my scooter to the dealer... it's far and I dont have truck... but will find a solution if there is clear warranty implications). d. See pic below. What is the function of this tube? There is small amount of what looks like oil accumulating in it... I note it looks like a drain tube but with the tube currently plugged. No mention of the function of this tube in the User Guide or in the service manual. I assume I should just open this tube .. and keep it open? e. Suspension / Brakes / Throttle / Lights: Doing Great. Feels and Works fine. f. Body / Plastic panels: No scratches , dings, dents, or delaminations.... got hit by a bit of rain in Dallas, no probs so far. g. Speedometer: Gets a bit jumpy in certain speed zones... jumps up and down by maybe +/- 2mph when speed is (Seemingly) constant. h. All noticeable screws, bolts, hose clips, etc... seem holding up fine. i. Air Pressure / Coolant Levels / Oil Levels / Gear Oils Levels: Been fine after initial low levels corrected.... j. Air Filter: Looks fine, no obvious dirt/debris,etc... k. Starter / Engine Starting: No problems. My wife is now starting to learn on the Qlink... scoot is just a bit too large for her, so for her upcoming scooter purchase probably get something just a tad smaller...... but 150cc engine size... She'll take the MSF coarse in June. TZ
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