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Post by danno711 on Feb 17, 2013 16:21:00 GMT -5
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Post by youngboipsl on Feb 17, 2013 16:27:59 GMT -5
I said in MY area dipsh!t. And yup on the price, believe it or not internet troll. |
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Post by danno711 on Feb 17, 2013 16:36:45 GMT -5
I said in MY area dipsh!t. And yup on the price, believe it or not internet troll. $1600? No |
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Post by youngboipsl on Feb 17, 2013 16:38:53 GMT -5
I said in MY area dipsh!t. And yup on the price, believe it or not internet troll. $1600? No K lol |
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Post by danno711 on Feb 17, 2013 16:40:19 GMT -5
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Post by spandi on Feb 17, 2013 17:01:35 GMT -5
I think this also has to do with where you buy. If I remember correctly Florida has the most scooter dealers of any state, prices are probably going to be a lot cheaper there. (plus I'm sure there are on-the-lot dealer specials not advertised on the net.) But check out these prices, not bad www.buyatvscheap.com/California-Scooter-for-Sale-s/338.htm |
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Post by tat2donkey on Feb 17, 2013 17:34:28 GMT -5
Im not too sure as to why this topic turned into a pissing match but i have looked into several different 250cc models and above. The reason i am choosing the Linhai is simple...Its affordable and i like to work on things myself. There are numerous upgrades for these scooters. This will be my first scooter ever and im extremely excited about it. I too am a Floridian(Clearwater to be exact) and we have numerous retailers around us but only a few offer the Linhai. Online the Linhai is 2500 and a couple places said they would match that and i would have a local connection, so problem solved.
I myself have no desire to spend above 7k on a scooter (Burgman) I would rather buy something that i like the style of and work the kinks out myself. I know the ongoing debate of Chinese vs Japanese or Italian will always be out there, however i see the challenges if any with Linhai as Legos for adults, i get to add new pieces and see how this works and that works.
I am a bigger guy 6'1, 270lbs so i do not expect the best performance out of a stock Linhai, but the look and style suits my needs, then again i will not need to be doing alot of massive highway driving. If i did i know there are modifications that i CAN do to get this scooter to meet my needs.
These are my 2 cents, i hope this discussion remains friendly and stops becoming personal as it has.
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Post by youngboipsl on Feb 17, 2013 17:53:25 GMT -5
Im not too sure as to why this topic turned into a pissing match but i have looked into several different 250cc models and above. The reason i am choosing the Linhai is simple...Its affordable and i like to work on things myself. There are numerous upgrades for these scooters. This will be my first scooter ever and im extremely excited about it. I too am a Floridian(Clearwater to be exact) and we have numerous retailers around us but only a few offer the Linhai. Online the Linhai is 2500 and a couple places said they would match that and i would have a local connection, so problem solved. I myself have no desire to spend above 7k on a scooter (Burgman) I would rather buy something that i like the style of and work the kinks out myself. I know the ongoing debate of Chinese vs Japanese or Italian will always be out there, however i see the challenges if any with Linhai as Legos for adults, i get to add new pieces and see how this works and that works. I am a bigger guy 6'1, 270lbs so i do not expect the best performance out of a stock Linhai, but the look and style suits my needs, then again i will not need to be doing alot of massive highway driving. If i did i know there are modifications that i CAN do to get this scooter to meet my needs. These are my 2 cents, i hope this discussion remains friendly and stops becoming personal as it has. That dude is a know it all and said some things that I know for a fact is not true, therefore hoe gets no love. Anyways as we talked about privately you can ride my bike whenever our schedules match and see if you like it |
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Post by spandi on Feb 17, 2013 17:54:10 GMT -5
Some lucid observations T2D. I think you'll be very happy with your choice. It's well built and working on it shouldn't present much difficulty, there is also many past postings here by dawgs who have already done the work and modifications. (just google linhai scootdawg) But I don't think you'll find a lot of "kinks" to begin with however, improvements can be done to suit your particular taste. (take it from one who has put an awful lot of "Legos" together.) Enjoy!...and keep us informed.
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Post by prodigit on Feb 17, 2013 17:57:40 GMT -5
Why do that if you can wrench it yourself and not have to pay someone 75 bucks an hour? because not everyone is mechanically inclined, or has the time to do it. Not all jobs are a quick putting in a bolt here or an adjustment there. A lot of issues require quite some peeling of tupperware, and going to Home Depot finding that right sized bolt or nut. |
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Post by spandi on Feb 17, 2013 18:04:06 GMT -5
Sorry Prodigit. I should have been somewhat clearer, by "wrench it yourself" I did mean those with both the time and mechanical knack .  |
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Post by prodigit on Feb 17, 2013 18:04:19 GMT -5
Im not too sure as to why this topic turned into a pissing match but i have looked into several different 250cc models and above. The reason i am choosing the Linhai is simple...Its affordable and i like to work on things myself. There are numerous upgrades for these scooters. This will be my first scooter ever and im extremely excited about it. I too am a Floridian(Clearwater to be exact) and we have numerous retailers around us but only a few offer the Linhai. Online the Linhai is 2500 and a couple places said they would match that and i would have a local connection, so problem solved. I myself have no desire to spend above 7k on a scooter (Burgman) I would rather buy something that i like the style of and work the kinks out myself. I know the ongoing debate of Chinese vs Japanese or Italian will always be out there, however i see the challenges if any with Linhai as Legos for adults, i get to add new pieces and see how this works and that works. I am a bigger guy 6'1, 270lbs so i do not expect the best performance out of a stock Linhai, but the look and style suits my needs, then again i will not need to be doing alot of massive highway driving. If i did i know there are modifications that i CAN do to get this scooter to meet my needs. These are my 2 cents, i hope this discussion remains friendly and stops becoming personal as it has. How do you, as a +6' person fit on the bike? The reason I went with BMS TBX260 was because the seat of the Linhai looked like it could be trouble for a large person to sit (knees). On the BMS I can move more backwards to the passenger's seat if I had to, however that was entirely unnecessary, as the BMS had a lot of legspace, even for a 6'4" person. |
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Post by edfr on Feb 17, 2013 18:22:03 GMT -5
6+ fit nicely on a scooter like that NOTICE you can put your feet up along side the tank!! That is how I ride as well. Also you can brace yourself much better than just sitting with your feet on a flat bed scoot.
The guy was nice enough to show pictures and he was excited getting the scoot and all of a sudden people start knocking the scoot he got. Just say congratulations and enjoy the ride, if you don't like it keep it to yourselve. What makes your scoot so special I would bet it is not just your run of the mill scoot, cheap and fun to ride.
Don't understand some of you people always knocking someone for something grow up and TRY TO BE NICE.
Lefty
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Post by tinstar on Feb 17, 2013 18:30:16 GMT -5
Congrats on your scooter. I almost bought a Linhai and did a lot of research on them. Most people who had them, liked them, and they were far above most Chinese bikes that I researched. The only reason that I didn't get one was because I found a SYM RV250 on Craigs list, like new, ridden very little, at a great price only 50 miles from me. 2008 and red like yours. I checked it out (was my first scooter...I had many motorcycles in my past), loved it, and brought it home. I had actually been talking to an internet dealer when I happened to find this. I think that you have a good bike and I hope you really enjoy it! Be careful out there!
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Big Dawg
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If I can't Break it ...It ain't fixed!
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Post by bikernuc on Feb 17, 2013 18:38:59 GMT -5
Interesting discussion all around .
The point about a budget being the determining factor in what one would buy is valid. However if one is comparing two items as to relative value it should be on a level playing field.
So if we wish to compare the value of a used Brand name scooter at say $3500 or more then we should be comparing it to a used Linhai in comparable condition for much less, $ certainly less than $2K.
That all said, if I was looking for a more long distance touring scooter and was on a budget, I would indeed bide my time for a deal on a low mileage used name brand scooter. Then again being the short attention span impulse buyer (still on a budget) looking for a local ride (<100 miles from home) I may just go with the readily available cheaper option.
So I guess...it depends.
Yes I know I seem to be talking out both sides of my mouth...it's a habit of mine, that and beating dead horses.
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Post by youngboipsl on Feb 17, 2013 18:49:04 GMT -5
Thx guys! I'm gonna try and pimp this bike out as soon as I can
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Post by prodigit on Feb 17, 2013 19:28:20 GMT -5
Interesting discussion all around . The point about a budget being the determining factor in what one would buy is valid. However if one is comparing two items as to relative value it should be on a level playing field. So if we wish to compare the value of a used Brand name scooter at say $3500 or more then we should be comparing it to a used Linhai in comparable condition for much less, $ certainly less than $2K. That all said, if I was looking for a more long distance touring scooter and was on a budget, I would indeed bide my time for a deal on a low mileage used name brand scooter. Then again being the short attention span impulse buyer (still on a budget) looking for a local ride (<100 miles from home) I may just go with the readily available cheaper option. So I guess...it depends. Yes I know I seem to be talking out both sides of my mouth...it's a habit of mine, that and beating dead horses. Issue is, if you plan on buying a bike, and riding it until it drops dead (50 or 100k miles), a used burgman usually would last longer than a Linhai; almost twice as long. So if a Burgman had 48k miles on them, and where priced the same as a Linhai, I'd get the Linhai, nomatter how good the Burg looks or is maintained. I haven't seen any hard facts like max mile numbers on those bikes, but I'd say the price of a Burg <20k miles is very comparable to a new Linhai; and I'd say about equal in value. If you find a burg for $4,5k with 4,5k miles on it, compared to a new Linhai @$3,6k, I think it would be wiser to go with the burg. Feel free to disagree, but that'd be my personal opinion. |
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Post by edfr on Feb 17, 2013 19:56:06 GMT -5
Doesn't matter what anyone's opinion is, the one with the money will decide what he or she likes or doesn't like. If you never had one how can anyone comment on how good or bad it may be so those opinions are worthless.
Look around some buy the same scoot as others and some will say it is the best scoot and praise the scoot. Then you get others that will knock the heck out of the same scoot because they had troubles. Anything you buy, you can get a dog or a cream puff.
Lefty
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Post by danno711 on Feb 17, 2013 20:05:52 GMT -5
I decided on the 2008 Burgman priced less than the Linhai @ $2400 Attachments:
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Post by youngboipsl on Feb 17, 2013 20:25:56 GMT -5
Doesn't matter what anyone's opinion is, the one with the money will decide what he or she likes or doesn't like. If you never had one how can anyone comment on how good or bad it may be so those opinions are worthless maybe. Look around some buy the same scoot as others and some will say it is the best scoot and praise the the scoot. Then you get others that will knock the heck out of the same scoot because they had troubles. Anything you buy, you can get a dog or a cream puff. Lefty Love my bike |
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Post by edfr on Feb 17, 2013 20:45:50 GMT -5
You done good, Its a very nice looking scoot and plenty of room for 2 up even has a backrest built in.
Lefty
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Post by prodigit on Feb 17, 2013 20:52:46 GMT -5
Doesn't matter what anyone's opinion is, the one with the money will decide what he or she likes or doesn't like. If you never had one how can anyone comment on how good or bad it may be so those opinions are worthless. Look around some buy the same scoot as others and some will say it is the best scoot and praise the scoot. Then you get others that will knock the heck out of the same scoot because they had troubles. Anything you buy, you can get a dog or a cream puff. Lefty And still I am free to post my opinion, which are not worthless to people without opinion. I did my research about them; Yet another comment I have to disagree with you... You can learn from other's experiences, without ever having to have the bike for yourself, and thus whatever you've learned from others is not worthless at all; but very valuable! I think many would agree with my opinions, and though they're not 100% rock solid, and sumissive to change, they're still a nod in the right direction. and if you don't want the " " - experience, then get a burgman. They're all QC'ed to such an extend, that I know of zero people returning the Burg because of a reliability issue! |
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Post by edfr on Feb 17, 2013 21:24:32 GMT -5
That is correct you are free to your opinions and that is all. I am telling the man don't listen to opinions from those that never had one that is all. He can read reviews just like anybody else and I am sure he did and he decided for the money it is good enough. Now if someone has one or had one and commented on its pros and cons that would be a different story. Someone commenting on something he or she never had or never done you cannot take that to the bank it is their opinion on the matter and not worth its weight in salt.
Like anything else you have to compare apples to apples not apples to oranges.
Lefty
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Post by youngboipsl on Feb 17, 2013 21:28:24 GMT -5
Doesn't matter what anyone's opinion is, the one with the money will decide what he or she likes or doesn't like. If you never had one how can anyone comment on how good or bad it may be so those opinions are worthless. Look around some buy the same scoot as others and some will say it is the best scoot and praise the scoot. Then you get others that will knock the heck out of the same scoot because they had troubles. Anything you buy, you can get a dog or a cream puff. Lefty And still I am free to post my opinion, which are not worthless to people without opinion. I did my research about them; Yet another comment I have to disagree with you... You can learn from other's experiences, without ever having to have the bike for yourself, and thus whatever you've learned from others is not worthless at all; but very valuable! I think many would agree with my opinions, and though they're not 100% rock solid, and sumissive to change, they're still a nod in the right direction. and if you don't want the " " - experience, then get a burgman. They're all QC'ed to such an extend, that I know of zero people returning the Burg because of a reliability issue! Don't know anyone who returned a linhai either |
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Post by youngboipsl on Feb 17, 2013 21:32:52 GMT -5
That is correct you are free to your opinions and that is all. I am telling the man don't listen to opinions from those that never had one that is all. He can read reviews just like anybody else and I am sure he did and he decided for the money it is good enough. Now if someone has one or had one and commented on its pros and cons that would be a different story. Someone commenting on something he or she never had or never done you cannot take that to the bank it is their opinion on the matter and not worth its weight in salt. Like anything else you have to compare apples to apples not apples to oranges. Lefty Lol this is so pointless now, just seem like if its not a burgman everyone will say its crap or not as good. I love my bike and it feels great to ride it. My friend rode his to key west from Clearwater and back (more than 5hr ride). Not a name brand but its still a Yamaha and its good enough for me. Blah blah blah burgman burgman blah blah blah. |
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Post by prodigit on Feb 17, 2013 21:34:59 GMT -5
And still I am free to post my opinion, which are not worthless to people without opinion. I did my research about them; Yet another comment I have to disagree with you... You can learn from other's experiences, without ever having to have the bike for yourself, and thus whatever you've learned from others is not worthless at all; but very valuable! I think many would agree with my opinions, and though they're not 100% rock solid, and sumissive to change, they're still a nod in the right direction. and if you don't want the " " - experience, then get a burgman. They're all QC'ed to such an extend, that I know of zero people returning the Burg because of a reliability issue! Don't know anyone who returned a linhai either That is a valid argument; me neither. However there are way less Linhai's sold than Burgmans (at least in the US). It being a Chinese bike, I presume it's going to be less in quality than the burgman, which is ?Jap or Korean?. |
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Post by edfr on Feb 17, 2013 21:40:58 GMT -5
LOL... I do not brag about mine I have a 2008 650 Burgman Executive with a Trike kit on it has all the fun toys on it, push a button the windshield moves up and down, push another button and it changes your gearing for loads, push another button the Mirrors fold in, tells you if you put on underarm deodorant or not(HAHA). But if anything goes wrong it is like taking a Caddy to the dealer, you will not get out for less than $500.00 and that is for something simple. The ECU itself is $700.00, Belt is almost $400.00(not including labor), just to name a few.
I store it at a Suzuki Dealer over the winter for 5 months I do not have room in my garage for it, storage for 5 months is $400.00.
And it is to complicated for me to work on it the electrical on it is a nightmare sensors coming out of your ears.
Lefty
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Post by spandi on Feb 17, 2013 22:37:31 GMT -5
That is correct you are free to your opinions and that is all. I am telling the man don't listen to opinions from those that never had one that is all. He can read reviews just like anybody else and I am sure he did and he decided for the money it is good enough. Now if someone has one or had one and commented on its pros and cons that would be a different story. Someone commenting on something he or she never had or never done you cannot take that to the bank it is their opinion on the matter and not worth its weight in salt. Like anything else you have to compare apples to apples not apples to oranges. Lefty Lol this is so pointless now, just seem like if its not a burgman everyone will say its crap or not as good. I love my bike and it feels great to ride it. My friend rode his to key west from Clearwater and back (more than 5hr ride). Not a name brand but its still a Yamaha and its good enough for me. Blah blah blah burgman burgman blah blah blah. Oh I wouldn't say everyone.... You have done well sir, Splendidly! Marvelously! Capital! Absolutely Top Drawer!... Touché! |
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Post by spandi on Feb 17, 2013 22:46:10 GMT -5
LOL... I do not brag about mine I have a 2008 650 Burgman Executive with a Trike kit on it has all the fun toys on it, push a button the windshield moves up and down, push another button and it changes your gearing for loads, push another button the Mirrors fold in, tells you if you put on underarm deodorant or not(HAHA). But if anything goes wrong it is like taking a Caddy to the dealer, you will not get out for less than $500.00 and that is for something simple. The ECU itself is $700.00, Belt is almost $400.00(not including labor), just to name a few. I store it at a Suzuki Dealer over the winter for 5 months I do not have room in my garage for it, storage for 5 months is $400.00. And it is to complicated for me to work on it the electrical on it is a nightmare sensors coming out of your ears. Lefty Lefty Thank you for your honesty and candor in discussing an aspect of brand name bikes (isn't Linhai a brand name as well?) that is frequently overlooked, and actually giving the hard numbers in dollars to your example. |
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Post by bones113 on Feb 18, 2013 7:04:12 GMT -5
Hers is the bottom line. If you like a particular scoot then buy it. It don't matter what other people think. There opinion means diddly squat. You are the one who will be riding and working on it. Some peoples pure arrogance amazes me. It's like If you don't think like them then you are an idiot. I have a linhai 300 and I love it. I have never owned a burgman so I cant comment on its reliability I can however comment on the Linhai 300. It is a good bike. Pound for pound it is a good choice. The power is purely amazing. Fit and finish is a 7.5 out of 10. Power wise it is a 10 out of 10. To those of us whose opinions are of the " Look at what I got and you don't" Variety I say good for you and that's it. You got a burgman well whoop t doo. I got a Linhai 300 and damn proud of it. Don't be hatin on other people's choices. It is theirs and theirs alone to make. Walk a mile in their shoes before dissing them and there choices. Geeze the arrogance of some people. My 2 cents worth like it or not.
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