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Post by youngboipsl on Feb 15, 2013 18:17:40 GMT -5
I have a question on why people rag on my scooter... they say I should of bought a burgman or kymco or whatever its called...why?
I'm not trying to go 70mph +++ even though I can on my bike.
What's the difference between the linhai 300 vs the other brands?
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Post by prodigit on Feb 15, 2013 18:44:05 GMT -5
Mainly the only difference is reliability.
Perhaps a bit more power too.
The Burgmans are meant to last at least 100k miles. The Chinese clones usually half that.
The Burgmans had lots of Quality control, so that even after 20k miles, bolts falling off, is very unusual.
The clones usually have bolts loosen within the first 2 k miles, although not as much anymore on the newer bikes, where they use sealing agents like locktite clones to keep the bolts from vibrating loose.
Once you've done a full PDI, and made sure everything is tight, and do another one every 2-3k miles, you're pretty safe on the chinese.
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Post by youngboipsl on Feb 15, 2013 18:50:45 GMT -5
Mainly the only difference is reliability. Perhaps a bit more power too. The Burgmans are meant to last at least 100k miles. The Chinese clones usually half that. The Burgmans had lots of Quality control, so that even after 20k miles, bolts falling off, is very unusual. The clones usually have bolts loosen within the first 2 k miles, although not as much anymore on the newer bikes, where they use sealing agents like locktite clones to keep the bolts from vibrating loose. Once you've done a full PDI, and made sure everything is tight, and do another one every 2-3k miles, you're pretty safe on the chinese. Isn't the linhai a Yamaha product or something? Is Yamaha a good brand? |
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Post by sharks06lly on Feb 15, 2013 18:57:06 GMT -5
no its a clone of it. most of the chinese brands clone a japanese brand but its not as good some people would say since the clones break alot more and require alot more upkeep
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Post by youngboipsl on Feb 15, 2013 19:04:17 GMT -5
Oh darn.. I hope my scooter continues to do fine then... I just took it over the bayside bridge going 65mph an hour ago testing my new helmet
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Post by sharks06lly on Feb 15, 2013 19:05:47 GMT -5
as long as you are mechanically inclined then it will be fine
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Post by youngboipsl on Feb 15, 2013 19:10:39 GMT -5
I'm really not lol... the dealer said bring it back every 1000miles for check up etc, that's all I know
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Post by sharks06lly on Feb 15, 2013 19:12:17 GMT -5
lol well its hard to garuntee anything with a chinese scooter. where are you located?
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Post by youngboipsl on Feb 15, 2013 19:31:04 GMT -5
I live thirty minutes from you.... Clearwater by the airport
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Post by danno711 on Feb 15, 2013 19:34:30 GMT -5
Mainly the only difference is reliability. Perhaps a bit more power too. The Burgmans are meant to last at least 100k miles. The Chinese clones usually half that. The Burgmans had lots of Quality control, so that even after 20k miles, bolts falling off, is very unusual. The clones usually have bolts loosen within the first 2 k miles, although not as much anymore on the newer bikes, where they use sealing agents like locktite clones to keep the bolts from vibrating loose. Once you've done a full PDI, and made sure everything is tight, and do another one every 2-3k miles, you're pretty safe on the chinese. Isn't the linhai a Yamaha product or something? Is Yamaha a good brand? It is a Yamaha product....sort of...This time the Chinese didn't steal the blue prints of a Japanese bike and then try producing their own bike using inferior parts. According to Yamaha's own website, this is a partnership. www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/global/news/2003/08/01/joint.htmlwww.hammerheadbuggy.com/linhai%20yamaha%20profile.htmlThe Linhai is not your typical inferior Chinese bike. The quality control is superior more in line with Yamaha's quality control. |
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Post by sharks06lly on Feb 15, 2013 19:41:00 GMT -5
I live thirty minutes from you.... Clearwater by the airport awesome well welcome to the forum  i actually work very close to to 60 on tampa side |
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Post by youngboipsl on Feb 15, 2013 19:48:13 GMT -5
I live thirty minutes from you.... Clearwater by the airport awesome well welcome to the forum i actually work very close to to 60 on tampa side Thanks! I'm planning on going to Tampa Sunday when I get the confidence to use the Courtney cambell bridge |
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Post by youngboipsl on Feb 15, 2013 19:49:01 GMT -5
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Post by danno711 on Feb 15, 2013 20:01:58 GMT -5
According to the research i did....it sure is a good bike.
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Post by prodigit on Feb 15, 2013 20:49:45 GMT -5
Linhais are the better kind of bikes.
They're like Korean quality.
Meaning some wrenching may be necessary.
If you have a dealer that asks you to return every 1000km's, then you're in luck.
It means he will do the oil changes and inspect on faults himself!
Go for it!
Having a mechanic that does these things is a huge pro!
Linhais still aren't as good as burgmans, and need about 3x more oilchanges. But they're far from bad!
They should last you at least 30-40k worry free miles (with the occasional belt/tire/brake/oil replacements), after that, you'd be riding on luck... Who knows how many miles they can do?
I guess 80k miles; perhaps more.
It'll also depend on how you maintain the bike, and how you ride it.
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Post by spandi on Feb 15, 2013 22:02:34 GMT -5
I just posted my impression of the Linhai after examining one very close up (well, up, underneath, all over, with a super intense light, and I was quite shocked by what I saw, Shocked by how high the quality was, not only with what you could see (Massive steel handlebar mounting blocks, stainless rear bolts, thick well finished, well fitted body panels) but things you could not. (the looking underneath part) like a stainless steel mesh screen surrounding the fan housing to stop any road debris from getting in. Do you have a good scooter NO! you have an OUTSTANDING SCOOTER!
P.S. that motor isn't a clone of anything, in fact I've never seen such power plant like that on any Chinese scoot.
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Post by spandi on Feb 15, 2013 22:12:45 GMT -5
If all the Chinese scooter manufacturers follow the lead of Linhai then the Chinese will do to the Japanese what the Japanese did to the American and British motorcycle industries.
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Post by motts on Feb 15, 2013 22:21:57 GMT -5
prodigit and spandi are both correct. Linhai is partially owned by Yamaha. Their job is to build engines for Yamaha. Their quality is far above the average Chinese scooter. Their Scooter and ATV designs are copied from other manufacturers. If the Burgman is a 10 the Linhai scooter is 8.5 - 9. As spandi pointed out, the engine is not a clone (to my knowledge). In fact, other chinese factories clone the Linhai 260/300 engine. The Linhai scooter will require a little more attention than a Burgman but should run a long, long time.
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Post by spandi on Feb 15, 2013 22:33:47 GMT -5
I still can't get over it. That motor had fluid lines like a work of modern sculpture. IT GLEAMED
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Post by medman1952 on Feb 16, 2013 1:25:23 GMT -5
Oh darn.. I hope my scooter continues to do fine then... I just took it over the bayside bridge going 65mph an hour ago testing my new helmet I hope you meant testing it for fit, not for durability. |
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Post by bones113 on Feb 16, 2013 6:12:24 GMT -5
I have the Linhai main street 300. It is the 2008 model. This bike will fly. It is almost to fast for the size of the scoot. I have had to do a few things to it like new starter, fuel pump, vacuum lines, fuel filter etc but all in all I have had a blast with it. I would definitely buy another one. My buddy has a piaggio mp3 400 and it will easily keep up with him. The power of this little motor is just plain fantastic. It will flat out run like a bat out of hell. It hugs the road like a dream. I am doing a early pre spring inspection this week on it to get it ready for spring time fun. Cant wait to fly. I love it.
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Post by spandi on Feb 16, 2013 11:14:21 GMT -5
I figured as much. The one I looked at would have no trouble keeping up with traffic, even on the freeway.
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Post by rapidjim on Feb 16, 2013 12:47:05 GMT -5
My 2 cents worth. Same as above!!!! The linhai is a great little motor!!!!!!
Jim/Owner
Rapid Repair
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tat2donkey
Junior Dawg
Clearwater Florida
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Post by tat2donkey on Feb 16, 2013 13:05:46 GMT -5
i live in Clearwater myself and am actually looking into a 300cc scooter and by the talks of this message i may go with your model. mind giving me a connection in clearwater or the area to who you bought it from?
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Post by spandi on Feb 16, 2013 13:26:03 GMT -5
Found this. (don't knows if it helps though.) gekgo.com/linhai-shoroom.htmlThe only address I could find for this was for New Port Richie Florida (about 25 miles north of Clearwater.) |
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Post by danno711 on Feb 16, 2013 13:42:41 GMT -5
The link says its top speed is 65-70 mph. Assuming you're on a freeway with a speed limit of 65mph....your trip is 180 miles....Is it "healthy" for an engine to run at its top speed for 1-3 hours?
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Post by spandi on Feb 16, 2013 13:49:44 GMT -5
Scroll down a little lower on the 300 link danno (under specs, lower right side) and to be honest I think they're being conservative with the numbers (are you looking to drag race one?) ;D
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Post by danno711 on Feb 16, 2013 14:32:34 GMT -5
Scroll down a little lower on the 300 link danno (under specs, lower right side) and to be honest I think they're being conservative with the numbers (are you looking to drag race one?) ;D Besides not answering my question, "Is it "healthy" for an engine to run at its top speed for 1-3 hours?" The specs say its top speed is 65-70 MPH. If i wanted to take a trip to Austin, San Antonio or Dallas, all several hours away...is it good for the engine to run at freeway speeds....65-70 mph... for that long of a period of time? Can it run at that speed with 2 people or is that just one person? |
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Post by spandi on Feb 16, 2013 15:36:24 GMT -5
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Post by youngboipsl on Feb 16, 2013 15:45:48 GMT -5
i live in Clearwater myself and am actually looking into a 300cc scooter and by the talks of this message i may go with your model. mind giving me a connection in clearwater or the area to who you bought it from? I bought mine at tropical scooters , I highly recommend these folks. They even have good financing plans and such. I got mine delivered for free. Where in Clearwater are you? Could let you see mine too---- I just came from work and it was super freaking windy 28mph winds and the bike did fine. |
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