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Post by medman1952 on Feb 11, 2013 2:54:33 GMT -5
We all know there has been turmoil on the forum.
The owner of another forum has stated that this one will be closing down, if somebody follows through with promises made. The only way I know of this happening is if Lee Hammond closes the forum.
When the forum was shut down, the management of Proboards disabled Lee's administrator account. Normally when an account is disabled a set number of days are defined for the disabling. When those days go by, Lee will be able to come in and close the forum if he wants. I do not know if he wants to. It is my opinion that Lee gave his password to that owner so that he could use the admin account to transfer the content of the forum. If he has the password, all he has to do is wait for he account to be reactivated and he can log on an close the forum.
Why would Lee want to close the forum. Lee was given a sum of money to enable the content of the forum to be moved. The person that paid him has the right to expect Lee to follow through with his promise.
Tomorrow the Proboards staff will be discussing options for this forum. If they follow through with established policies, Lee will be allowed administrative powers here again. They may also grant a secondary administrative position. This secondary admin probably would not have the ability to keep Lee from shutting the forum down. The secondary admin would be able to create moderators and almost all other admin abilities. Those powers would be wasted if the forum is closed.
I have no idea what the time line is for any of the possible events that can happen.
If you come here and find the forum closed be assured that you will be missed by the rest of the family here. We have been a community for a long time, we have had our fights, we have been entertained, we have been educated. Hopefully this forum will continue.
Should our home here be gone, there are pockets on the internet that some of us already go to. I am sure you would be welcome to join those forums. In fact I encourage all of you to be on more than one forum. This forum has several spin off forums. ScooterDoc, Scooter Professor, 49cc scooter, Scooter Rebels and now of course scootdawg.net.
Certainly it is my desire that this forum keep going. Lets hope and see what happens. Should the management at Proboards actually make me an admin here I will be wanting a staff. I have a few people in mind, there is room for more. If you are interested send me a message and include a informal resume like bit of information.
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Post by shalomdawg on Feb 11, 2013 3:50:03 GMT -5
howdy, this has been a good forum for my need to just stay in touch and a quick browse etc. i hope it keeps on keepin' on
lotsa miles and smiles to ya
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Post by OverReved on Feb 11, 2013 4:01:09 GMT -5
This post is more coherent on the state of the boards than other speculative posts I've read. I'm with you in that I do not wish to see these forums go away. When a repository of knowledge becomes as large as this one has, and the collection of experience and varied opinions this vast, it's not in anyone persons authority or right to remove it. That's my opinion regardless of whatever bickering, scheming scamming, or personal reasons someone may have for doing so.
I've not registered for the scootdawg.net boards because I hold out hope for these boards futures.
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Post by edfr on Feb 11, 2013 5:08:02 GMT -5
All I can say is WOW!! You have told us more about the state of this forum than even proboards has. Whatever the outcome is Proboards better make some changes to their policy so that backdoor scamming like what went on with this forum cannot happen again. Thank you for informing the members of what may happen. Lefty
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Post by tvnacman on Feb 11, 2013 5:51:01 GMT -5
Well I hope this place stays around .
The idea of being a mod interesting . Can a mod not say anything and just take action ?
John
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Post by flyangler on Feb 11, 2013 8:13:21 GMT -5
Bump
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Post by JR on Feb 11, 2013 9:13:23 GMT -5
Doug one fear that you mentioned has been addressed by Proboards: support.proboards.com/thread/443536/forum-hijacked?page=5The admin account is controlled by ProBoards. It has been this way for a long time now. No one else has access to it.So with that statement it's clear that Lee or Mike at this point cannot come in and take any action on this forum. It's in Proboard's hands and hopefully they'll take a direction soon. JR
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Post by inuyasha on Feb 11, 2013 11:06:49 GMT -5
Hi i wanted to post this in the other thread about the forums but Medman locked it before i had a chance Hi I cant believe that this has become such a passionate battle, friends and members fighting amongst one another, tempers lost and things said in the heat of the moment that should never have been said to any one, I'm sorry to say of guilty of all those as well And to those Ive disrespected I'm very sorry, Bong a special apology to you my friend i don't know how things got so quickly and badly out of hand , but I'm sorry for the things Ive said i hope you feel the same We've been friends for quite some time, i surely don't want to throw away all that over this I think we all need to just step back and let those that are in control of the outcome of the forums bash it out themselves and all of us just focus on why most of us our here Our common passion and love of scoots and motorbikes ,So i for one am only going to focus on helping out when able, being entertaining when i can and all ways be a a friend and comrade to those that share these same views I Know I'm not responding to any more threads or posts about this particular touchy subject after this posting Lets hope this is all over one way or the other fairly quickly I shall post this in the other forums as well Take care and ride safely dear friends Yours Hank
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Post by leftwayleft2 on Feb 11, 2013 11:17:08 GMT -5
I do hope this forum stays. This is my personal favorite for finding the help and information I need.
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Post by trailheadmike on Feb 11, 2013 13:15:41 GMT -5
I hope this forum stays alive as well. I'm a member at many other forums, but this is where I cut my scooter-teeth beginning with advice on what to buy and continuing all through many mechanical trials and tribulations.
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Post by carasdad on Feb 11, 2013 13:35:21 GMT -5
Hi i wanted to post this in the other thread about the forums but Medman locked it before i had a chance Hi I cant believe that this has become such a passionate battle, friends and members fighting amongst one another, tempers lost and things said in the heat of the moment that should never have been said to any one, I'm sorry to say of guilty of all those as well And to those Ive disrespected I'm very sorry, Bong a special apology to you my friend i don't know how things got so quickly and badly out of hand , but I'm sorry for the things Ive said i hope you feel the same We've been friends for quite some time, i surely don't want to throw away all that over this I think we all need to just step back and let those that are in control of the outcome of the forums bash it out themselves and all of us just focus on why most of us our here Our common passion and love of scoots and motorbikes ,So i for one am only going to focus on helping out when able, being entertaining when i can and all ways be a a friend and comrade to those that share these same views I Know I'm not responding to any more threads or posts about this particular touchy subject after this posting Lets hope this is all over one way or the other fairly quickly I shall post this in the other forums as well Take care and ride safely dear friends Yours Hank Hank..could not agree more my fellow brother in arms. This has become that which is not unlike the Civil War..where it was friend against friend....brother against brother and sister...family against family. It is said that "History repeats itself"...which is a very true statement... Sad part is...look at History from 1776 to present...it has repeated itself many times over...and yet..what have we learned from that?... Not a damn thing.... United we stand...divided we fall. We must find a way to keep this forum. It has a long history...has helped many...and allowed us to make friends all over America. For the forum to be stripped away...or the bickering to continue...would be a truly sad event. Peace be with you my friend.... Sincerely, Yayiima benatigee
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Post by spandi on Feb 11, 2013 13:37:21 GMT -5
It would be a tragedy if this forum were lost, the backlog of postings is a treasure trove, the library of Alexandria of scooter how-to knowledge. It should be preserved and maintained for future use.
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Post by spandi on Feb 11, 2013 13:43:20 GMT -5
That was BIG of you Hank, and I'm overjoyed you're still here (for a moment there I thought perhaps we had lost you.) Now let's get back to scootin'!
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Post by tortoise on Feb 11, 2013 13:53:59 GMT -5
Should the management at Proboards actually make me an admin here I will be wanting a staff. Since "Pocahontas" is incarcerated, please consider "Corpsman Psychobabble" and "Master Chief Twinkle-Toes".
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Post by Cookees on Feb 11, 2013 13:59:19 GMT -5
I was wondering if the owners of ProBoards would allow the installation of armed guards at Scootdawg Middle School "Home of the precious Snowflakes" .
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Post by spandi on Feb 11, 2013 14:09:07 GMT -5
Does this seem all too familiar around here as of late?
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Post by carasdad on Feb 11, 2013 14:09:51 GMT -5
Should the management at Proboards actually make me an admin here I will be wanting a staff. Since "Pocahontas" is incarcerated, please consider "Corpsman Psychobabble" and "Master Chief Twinkle-Toes". Why the rude comment about Hank and I?... To take a jab at my heritage is a very pure form of racism. Corpsman Psychobabble?? A jab at my dedication to duty serving my country 21 years..putting my life on the line. Very disrespectful on your part. Master Chief Twinkie Toes...directed at Hank was beyond distasteful. Please explain why you post so many negative...hateful and rude things. What you just posted shows all forum members your true colors. Any chance you could explain your reason for this?...
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Post by spandi on Feb 11, 2013 14:13:03 GMT -5
Should the management at Proboards actually make me an admin here I will be wanting a staff. Since "Pocahontas" is incarcerated, please consider "Corpsman Psychobabble" and "Master Chief Twinkle-Toes". That comment was uncalled for and (especially now, went tempers have been running high) completely out of line. I cannot believe that someone who has been a member for so long a time as you, would say such a thing.
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Post by inuyasha on Feb 11, 2013 14:34:20 GMT -5
Hi Guys Thanks for the support Tortoise has shown over time that his interpersonal skills are quite low if not non existent
Why the jab at us Glenn? Who knows and at this point in time i dont much care Im just going to let every thing negative wash over me like waves at the shore And i cut a mean rug any ways, so twinkles toes doesn't really bother me all that much, I'm in good company with that nick name
Take care and ride safely dear friends Yours Hank
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Post by spandi on Feb 11, 2013 14:44:36 GMT -5
Oh Hank, that one with the Gunny as a shrink had me rolling in the aisle! HAHAHAHAHA! (the most effective therapy session ever.)
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Post by carasdad on Feb 11, 2013 15:23:11 GMT -5
Hi Guys Thanks for the support Tortoise has show over time that his interpersonal skills are quite low if not non existent Why the jab at us Glenn? Who knows and at this point in time i dont much care Im just going to let every thing negative wash over me like waves at the shore And i cut a mean rug any ways, so twinkles toes doesn't really bother me all that much, I'm in good company with that nick name Take care and ride safely dear friends Yours Hank Hank...I would retort his comment with a direct blow back at him. But I don't stoop that low...and to stoop that low would require a shovel and 6 hours of digging to attain the proper depth....to assure one is in fact low enough. Makes you wonder why a person can have so much bottled up hatred. Living in such a manner must be fraught with misery. Very glad I do not live such a lifestyle.
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Post by medman1952 on Feb 11, 2013 16:08:03 GMT -5
Please keep comments about the state of this forum only.
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Post by JR on Feb 11, 2013 17:42:30 GMT -5
I was wondering if the owners of ProBoards would allow the installation of armed guards at Scootdawg Middle School "Home of the precious Snowflakes" . Of course! They'll be there tomorrow!
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Post by carasdad on Feb 11, 2013 17:48:29 GMT -5
Please keep comments about the state of this forum only. My sincere apology. Now I wonder if he has the courage to do the same. I am very sorry for my above reply. But the racism over Native Americans such as me..was unjust and wrong. Also attacking Hank...wrong.
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Post by medman1952 on Feb 11, 2013 17:59:25 GMT -5
We have a Judgement from Proboards; "After reviewing our options, we have decided to leave the forum in an "as is" state. Meaning that those that have moderator powers still have them. The "admin" account will be left disabled due to Terms of Service violations. The moderating team is welcome to continue moderating this site, and if the members of this forum want "full control" they can create a new forum at www.proboards.com and direct the members to join the new forum."
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Post by scootnwinn on Feb 11, 2013 18:23:44 GMT -5
Wow those proboards guys are ever so helpful aren't they... Looks like it will be the same as it ever was. I feel for you medman
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Post by medman1952 on Feb 11, 2013 18:30:16 GMT -5
FYI, A person logged into the Proboards Support forum and identified himself as "original founder and admin of the scootdawg.proboards forum". This person asked for the forum to be transferred to Shibby2 (AKA Mike from Scootdawg.net). The request was denied. support.proboards.com/thread/447446/scootdawgPersonally I think it is all a mistake. They have refused to give this forum any kind of stability for the long run.
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Post by medman1952 on Feb 11, 2013 18:45:23 GMT -5
Wow those proboards guys are ever so helpful aren't they... Looks like it will be the same as it ever was. I feel for you medman I appreciate your concern.
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Post by inuyasha on Feb 11, 2013 18:47:48 GMT -5
Hi That's their decision even though i don't agree with it So we still have no admin no way to add any more moderators to ease Med mans burden, and no way to do any of the administrative duties that come with running a forum and no way of ever being able Seem to me we are on a runaway carriage with no one at the reigns, we all know how rides such as that turn out And as to there suggestion about starting a new one isnt thast what started all this trouble in the first place I'm quite disappointed in Proboards Take care and ride safely Yours Hank
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Post by medman1952 on Feb 11, 2013 19:28:04 GMT -5
I would like to change the subject of this thread.
AS the management of Proboards suggested as an option. Would the membership here. Be interested in the rebirth of the forum in another Proboards site.
I know, now you are scratching your head and going "Huh". It is just a question, would the membership here be happy moving to another Proboards forum. We all know there is the ScootDawg.net site. But there are those that were not happy with the way that transition was conducted and do not want to be on that forum.
I don't think a new proboards forum would have the content of this forum moved to it.That would probably violate the TOS. We could link back to any information that is here.
Someday something will happen and this forum will not survived. We have two moderators that come here, most of you only see me because Earl is more in the background. We need to have more help and it apparently is not going to be available here. Sure, ScootDawg on Proboards can hang in there for a while, it might be months or even years, but at some point without help, the load will be more than I or Earl or the both of use together can handle or will want to handle. We need to consider options.
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