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Post by knockoffprincess on Jan 10, 2013 16:35:16 GMT -5
 >:(UGHHH. So, I just recently bought this scooter and I just crashed into an SUV at a green light. I was cruising at 10MPH thinking I was going to go right pass the green light. The woman in front of me (No blinker might I add) just goes to a DEAD STOP and I slam into the back of her- needless to say, my whole front end if bad worded. :/ Can someone help me find a good body kit website so I can restore it? I don't know the model name of it (I just bought it and even the dude who sold it to me didn't know) but here are pictures.  imgur.com/VaK05imgur.com/WRyoXimgur.com/OT0iBimgur.com/qPgd7:/ Amanda-
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Post by inuyasha on Jan 10, 2013 16:42:39 GMT -5
Hi Amanda Welcome aboard Pleased to meet you though i wish it was under better circumstances Are you alright? as thats the most important thing Find your scoots body style here for parts www.scrappydogscooters.com/CHASSIS_PARTS.htmlTake care and ride safely Yours Hank |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 16:48:01 GMT -5
I'd be thinking about investing the money in driving school, you got lucky you weren't going fast this time but the collision is your fault, driving a motor vehicle is a serious responsibility.
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Post by wutzthedeal on Jan 10, 2013 17:13:07 GMT -5
There is no place to order what's in the fourth photo  . Glad you're ok. |
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Post by snugglebunny on Jan 10, 2013 18:28:31 GMT -5
hank {inyuasha} pointed you in the right direction for your body parts
Have you been able to ride it?
hows the steering?
you might have damaged the triple tree { the forks part
that holds the handlebars} and IF they are damaged
you need to NOT ride it.
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Post by scootercapecod on Jan 10, 2013 19:03:09 GMT -5
I'm with snugglebunny on this one as I've wrecked a scoot front end on also. The triple tree is your most important part aside from the frame itself structurally and once it's damaged, you really don't want to take chances riding it. Here's some questions for you: A: Does the front end "feel" any different from before the accident? B: Is the steering as good and still in line? C: Is the front tire pushed inward toward the frame? If yes to any of these other than B, then either you're going to spend some serious cash rebuilding that front end OR it may not be safe to do so at all and you'll end up buying a new scooter. If it turns out OK (and to know that for sure I'd have it looked over by a pro just to be safe) then go ahead and order up the body panels. Oh and as for the comment on it being your fault, although technically true (the laws vary state to state but following too close is the general thought), it's really a matter of an inconsiderate driver and you just happened to be the victim of her ignorance. Sadly we have those kind around here as well so driving VERY defensively, especially on 2 wheels is important to remember. Hopefully you were not hurt and you didn't need a lecture, you came here for scooter help, not legal B.S.
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Post by bigggroovy on Jan 10, 2013 23:24:59 GMT -5
People don't signal anymore! The cell phone is too important!
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Post by h3nry on Jan 10, 2013 23:36:38 GMT -5
Its not even the phones.... its just ignorance.
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Post by knockoffprincess on Jan 11, 2013 9:24:21 GMT -5
I'd be thinking about investing the money in driving school, you got lucky you weren't going fast this time but the collision is your fault, driving a motor vehicle is a serious responsibility. The only reason I should go to driving school is to get these 4 points off my driving record. Not my fault the woman in front of me slammed on her breaks at a green light. Thanks for all your help though. -_- |
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Post by knockoffprincess on Jan 11, 2013 9:26:38 GMT -5
I'm with snugglebunny on this one as I've wrecked a scoot front end on also. The triple tree is your most important part aside from the frame itself structurally and once it's damaged, you really don't want to take chances riding it. Here's some questions for you: A: Does the front end "feel" any different from before the accident? B: Is the steering as good and still in line? C: Is the front tire pushed inward toward the frame? If yes to any of these other than B, then either you're going to spend some serious cash rebuilding that front end OR it may not be safe to do so at all and you'll end up buying a new scooter. If it turns out OK (and to know that for sure I'd have it looked over by a pro just to be safe) then go ahead and order up the body panels. Oh and as for the comment on it being your fault, although technically true (the laws vary state to state but following too close is the general thought), it's really a matter of an inconsiderate driver and you just happened to be the victim of her ignorance. Sadly we have those kind around here as well so driving VERY defensively, especially on 2 wheels is important to remember. Hopefully you were not hurt and you didn't need a lecture, you came here for scooter help, not legal B.S. Hey there! Thank you for your wise words! I am fortunately okay.  Just a couple scratches. The scooter starts up no problem- nothing odd about it. While I was driving home I noticed it seemed a bit off balance? I'm not sure if it was me nit picking things because of the accident, or something was off. Does this make any sense to you? |
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Post by knockoffprincess on Jan 11, 2013 9:27:36 GMT -5
Hi Amanda Welcome aboard Pleased to meet you though i wish it was under better circumstances Are you alright? as thats the most important thing Find your scoots body style here for parts www.scrappydogscooters.com/CHASSIS_PARTS.htmlTake care and ride safely Yours Hank Thank you very much Hank! Tell me, am I able to install these parts by myself or would I need the help of a garage? I am quite new with scooters- and a little embarrassed o say the least. -__- |
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Post by spandi on Jan 11, 2013 9:44:56 GMT -5
Well k.o.p. if ti make you feel any better the same thing happened to me, only it was a stretch of East-Weast highway in DC at one O'clock in the morning (coming home from a package delivery job) in the a pouring cats-and-dogs rainstorm. Bright GREEN light In a TOTALLY DESERTED intersection she stomps on the brakes! I managed not to hit her, but with all that water I went down spinning like a top in the rain. You gotta watch.... especially in the intersections!
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Post by waterboysh on Jan 11, 2013 12:46:22 GMT -5
I'd be thinking about investing the money in driving school, you got lucky you weren't going fast this time but the collision is your fault, driving a motor vehicle is a serious responsibility. The only reason I should go to driving school is to get these 4 points off my driving record. Not my fault the woman in front of me slammed on her breaks at a green light. Thanks for all your help though. -_- Actually it is your fault. If you ran into her it means you were following to close or possibly to fast to be able to react to the car in front of you. I really recommend a motorcycle safetly class even if you don't need the endorsement. You'll learn a lot about proper cornering and how to properly brake. On a 2 wheel vehicle, braking requires a little more though because it is easier to lock up the tires, and at the same time a locked tire is more dangerous. That said, I'm glad you're ok and no one was hurt. I hope you can use what happened and learn from it. |
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Post by h3nry on Jan 11, 2013 14:27:50 GMT -5
Were not here to tell who is at fault but to teach schooter tech, safety and repair, that being said this incident may teach you to stay back a bit further (if you were really going about 10mph you were way too close) and learn to watch out for you, pay attention to everything around you and make sure you always have a way out.
Anyways, all of the plastics can be replaced by you're self, its screws and clips...easy.
The frame I would suggest taking the plastics off and inspecting the welds, if any of them look cracked get them fixed (professional welder) or replace the part if it comes off.
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Post by Blueboy5000 on Jan 12, 2013 7:31:19 GMT -5
Scooter Elements (which is a sponsor here) has everything you need body-wise. Talk to Walter, he'll hook you up. :-)
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Post by Blueboy5000 on Jan 12, 2013 7:33:52 GMT -5
Also; Scrappydogscooters has your triple-tree (fork crown). I wouldn't even take the chance, I'd buy a new fork crown ( They are about 45 dollars) the fork crown is pretty easy to install, it is just like a bicycle's.
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Post by snugglebunny on Jan 12, 2013 8:43:16 GMT -5
again i will state
you should have the forks, triple tree
checked my a real mech.
it might look fine to the un trained eye
but you dont wanna be cruising at 45mph
and have your front end break apart
but then again thats ONLY what i would do
i wouldnt risk my body, untill it was checked out
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Post by carasdad on Jan 12, 2013 8:52:50 GMT -5
Wow!..no reason for the rudeness...she knows was in error. She is not here for a reprimand...scolding...or to be belittled. She is here asking for help..and by definition in Websters dictionary..nowhere under the word help does it say degradation...rudeness..'rub it in their face' any anything of a negative nature. We lose a lot of newbies and even 'Old Timers' over this behaviour. I think an apology is owed.  @ knockoffprincess As for the broken plastics folks on here....which many are parts dealers...should be able to help you find. Regarding the 'odd feeling' when you ride it. Possibly your steering stem bearings which quite a few here have had go bad just hitting a small pothole at 15-20 or so mph. I have fixed many for customers and the steel they use is not hardened enough. Ball bearings should not dent or get flat spots from such mild trauma..but these scooters do. As mentioned by others above...it could be your 'triple tree' (The clamps that hold you front fork on) or bent handlebars. Those bend easy as well. Hopefully it is not your frame....as getting it straightened would be costly and weaken the metal when bent back into position. When I was selling scooters...I let the step daughter borrow a freshly uncrated new one to go visit a friend 2 miles up the road. #1 Rule in our house for our family fleet of scoots.. NOBODY is allowed to ride your scoot except family members.. NO FRIENDS etc. Soo she lets her friend who has never ridden one try it out.. Girl gets up to 35mph...freaks out in the parking lot..closes her eyes...holds the throttle and runs right into the woods.  Bottom line frame got bent with only 3.2 miles on it. Brand spanking new scoot to be sold to a customer became an instant parts bike.. So I pray your frame is ok...from the pics the damage does not look horrific though. Be careful out there.. and.... Demashiina siksik ahina mosa chokata sosantadego uliihoktee ay na muskodayn sha toshakad... (Guard your life as you ride by borrowing the eyes of the Red Tailed Hawk and the cunning mind of the Silver Fox).. Glenn...aka.. Yayiima benatigee |
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Post by snugglebunny on Jan 12, 2013 8:58:26 GMT -5
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Post by rockynv on Jan 12, 2013 11:26:07 GMT -5
The take the MSF course comments are really good advice as no one should ride without having taken one first. At 10 mph what you learn about the 4, 8 and 12 second rules at MSF may have saved you from this experience. Riding apparel is also important. Dad hat is on now - I hope the 4rth pic is not of what you were wearing at the time of the accident and we are all thanfull that you were not more seriously injured. You really need to consider wearing clothing that is more substantial and fully covers the extremities when you ride. Helmet, gloves, riding jacket, long pants and over the ankle boots are really required to ride safely. The bike itself looks like a Super Scooter MD150T-8 www.blujay.com/item/SuperScooter-150cc-Limited-Edition-BEST-PRICE-2031300-4246163The fork should be checked out as you could start getting tank slappers when decelerating if it or the steering head has been damaged. Here is an example of what can happen if you get one: www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ1srcQMa_0Get the bike checked out and fixed first then take the MSF Basic Riders Couse after getting some basic riding gear to protect yourself. Get it sorted out and you should experience many years of safe fun riding. |
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Post by yoshidawg on Jan 12, 2013 13:23:53 GMT -5
Its not even the phones.... its just ignorance. That and a no-fault attitude, I believe it was the SUV's fault. stopping at a green light is a citable offense as is not signaling before a turn. Drove a week in Californias "bay area" no-one uses their turn signals there. I asked our host about this, they replied "why should we"  ? ARGggg. Well because it's common courtesy to signal to fellow motorists EVEN if their on a scooter, that's why. |
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Post by carasdad on Jan 12, 2013 17:01:40 GMT -5
Its not even the phones.... its just ignorance. That and a no-fault attitude, I believe it was the SUV's fault. stopping at a green light is a citable offense as is not signaling before a turn. Drove a week in Californias "bay area" no-one uses their turn signals there. I asked our host about this, they replied "why should we" ? ARGggg. Well because it's common courtesy to signal to fellow motorists EVEN if their on a scooter, that's why. Yoshi...agreed and same laws in Michigan...if you stop on a highway on ramp...green light intersection...middle of the road...have faulty brake lights etc....or ANY place not dedicated as a 'Stop' zone....it's on you. YOU are cited for "Impeding the flow of traffic causing a collision" Not the motorist that hits you. So you sir are correct! If it is a stop sign or intersection with no traffic light as you wait oncoming traffic before you turn....the one hitting you is at fault. |
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Post by musikron on Jan 12, 2013 17:20:28 GMT -5
Well, here in GA the driver in rear is ALWAYS at fault. You should leave a safe maneuvering buffer ahead of you at all times so that if someone throws it in reverse and starts backing up you can easily avoid it.
The young girl wearing headphones is wrong, get over it.
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Post by loncindawg on Jan 12, 2013 17:54:10 GMT -5
Well, here in GA the driver in rear is ALWAYS at fault. You should leave a safe maneuvering buffer ahead of you at all times so that if someone throws it in reverse and starts backing up you can easily avoid it. The young girl wearing headphones is wrong, get over it. I missed the part where she said she was wearing headphones. |
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Post by wangchicken on Jan 12, 2013 18:45:12 GMT -5
have the front fork and stem looked at they bend pretty easily , Glad ur ok
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Post by inuyasha on Jan 12, 2013 18:56:46 GMT -5
Well, here in GA the driver in rear is ALWAYS at fault. You should leave a safe maneuvering buffer ahead of you at all times so that if someone throws it in reverse and starts backing up you can easily avoid it. The young girl wearing headphones is wrong, get over it. I missed the part where she said she was wearing headphones. Hi She never once said she did , some one else made up the story she was wearing head phones while riding Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank |
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Post by ce on Jan 12, 2013 21:25:49 GMT -5
Every picture tells a story, don't it?
Try number 3 if you don't have a clue.
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Post by qwertydude on Jan 12, 2013 22:11:10 GMT -5
Cruising at 10 mph on a scooter, if you know proper braking technique you should be able to stop within 10 feet. If you're following someone closer than 10 feet I'm sorry to say but even if they stopped abruptly it's still going to be your fault for the accident. It's always the person who crashed from behind's fault, sometimes there's no explaining why someone stops, maybe someone jumped in front of them, an animal on the road, but it's up to the followers to maintain a safe distance and for motorcyclists to always have a way out of a situation such as swerving to the side or knowing how to perform a controlled fast stop.
As for the damage, I the body panels can be found online but it'll be difficult. It is in particular a Sunny MC D150B style body but so many people have that style and it's variants so it'll be tough to figure out exactly which body part is compatible.
The most important thing though is the front end is probably shot, at the minimum you'll need new forks, if the steering stem is bent and the steering doesn't rotate smoothly that will have to be replaced. At that point there could be frame damage too and you're better off just scrapping the bike, selling it for parts and buying a new one or another used one because unless you're doing all the repair work yourself, labor will easily outstrip the value of the bike.
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Post by medman1952 on Jan 13, 2013 0:12:19 GMT -5
enough, time to not be sensitive, please can read other peoples comments wrong.
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Post by scootercapecod on Jan 14, 2013 16:37:19 GMT -5
Holy CRAP people, it depends on each state's laws who is legally at fault in an accident. That said, (as I've also read someone else mention) SHE DIDN'T come here to be told what she did wrong and how to ride a scooter. Offering advice is one thing but I'm sorry to say it smacks of arrogant (especially the "girl with the headphones on" comment) B.S. ALL of us learn, whether we have a collision or not, how to handle a scooter/motorcycle. It's much like learning how your car will turn, or how much distance you need to brake etc... Yes, a MC safety course is ideal but there are some places that do not require it to get your M endorsement (Mass is one but your insurance rates are higher for not taking it) on your license so long as you can pass the road test. With that it's up to you to decide to take one. Now, on to the front end feeling odd...NO you're not nit picking at all!! There may very well be something wrong as these guys and gals mention. If you can have a mechanic objectively look at it and give you an honest opinion (because some will say anything and tell you how crappy the chinese scooters are)he might tell you the bearings got bent or it's as simple as pulling one fork forward a touch to realign it (with proper heating). Hopefully not too much happened to it and glad you're ok
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. Glad you're ok.
Just a couple scratches. The scooter starts up no problem- nothing odd about it. While I was driving home I noticed it seemed a bit off balance? I'm not sure if it was me nit picking things because of the accident, or something was off. Does this make any sense to you?
Bottom line frame got bent with only 3.2 miles on it. Brand spanking new scoot to be sold to a customer became an instant parts bike.. 
