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Post by prodigit on Jul 21, 2012 2:23:51 GMT -5
This forum has moved, come to the new forumitistheride.boards.net/index.cgiHi, I know when getting a burgman, or honda scooter, chances are that aside from an annual oil change, or perhaps brakepads now and then, that there's very little that needs to be done on these type of bikes. However Chinese bikes usually come with minor issues. I'm interested in what are common issues with chinese bikes, and what are the most common procedures for tuning these bikes (I see a lot of comments about doing some adjustment to the valves?)...
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Post by gatekeeper on Jul 21, 2012 4:29:27 GMT -5
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Post by Pony66 on Jul 21, 2012 8:39:44 GMT -5
Hi, I know when getting a burgman, or honda scooter, chances are that aside from an annual oil change, or perhaps brakepads now and then, that there's very little that needs to be done on these type of bikes. However Chinese bikes usually come with minor issues. I'm interested in what are common issues with chinese bikes, and what are the most common procedures for tuning these bikes (I see a lot of comments about doing some adjustment to the valves?)... 1. Yes valve adjustments are regular maintenance as with any car with solid lifters. 2. Frequent oil changes as they only hold 3/4 quart. 3. Change rubber fuel lines to TYGON. 4. Tighten random screws. 5. Change belts every 5000 miles or so 6. keep everything clean 7. enjoy None of this has anything to do with country of origin. This is simply how one would maintain a small engine. |
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Post by prodigit on Jul 21, 2012 12:39:12 GMT -5
1. Yes valve adjustments are regular maintenance as with any car with solid lifters. 2. Frequent oil changes as they only hold 3/4 quart. 3. Change rubber fuel lines to TYGON. 4. Tighten random screws. 5. Change belts every 5000 miles or so 6. keep everything clean 7. enjoy None of this has anything to do with country of origin. This is simply how one would maintain a small engine. Ok, 1- Scares me as hell! I have no scooter mechanic in the neighborhood, neither the tools to do this! I know how to open the bike, but valve adjustment was done on VW Beetles once every 20 years, so it would surprise me if I should do this from the start  2- Since I have no scooter mechanic around that wants to fix Chinese scooters, how would you suggest I do this? (where to keep dirty oil? Especially changing transmission oil scares me!) 3- Why change fuel lines if they work? 4- Hope I won't have too many, but it's wise advise I'll take heed of! 5- If I'd replace the belt with a high quality belt, would it be possible to change belts over a larger timespan (eg: 10-15k miles)? 6- ok 7- Least scary thing :-) concerning small broken parts, say sparkplug cables, or brakepads, where should I go to buy them? Thank you! |
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Post by gatekeeper on Jul 21, 2012 12:58:09 GMT -5
None of this is hard to do. It just requires a willingness, a few basic tools and the ability to read and follow simple directions. There are even how to videos on youtube detailing these tasks.
Many auto parts stores will take used oil for recycling.
As far as buying parts, there are vendors that advertise on this forum that are good to deal with. Ebay is another good source for parts as long as you know what you are looking for.
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Post by derbi on Jul 21, 2012 13:50:30 GMT -5
Doing a proper full PDI and then routine maintenance is the key to a trouble free scooter no matter the make or brand.
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Post by prizmm on Jul 21, 2012 14:21:09 GMT -5
Yep,have to agree with derbi,,, i just hit 1500 miles , trouble free on my new scoot, other than the fuel tank emissions stuff,, but the forum input fixed me right up,,, PDI is the key !!!
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Post by WarrenS on Jul 21, 2012 16:19:03 GMT -5
250 cc scooters take more than 3/4 quarts of oil.
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Post by trigger on Jul 21, 2012 20:15:23 GMT -5
My Linah 250 requires 1200ml of oil. Realy, these bikes are simple, screwdriver, wrenches, chop sticks you have 89% of the work covered. Just dive on in.
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Post by katastroff on Jul 21, 2012 20:26:13 GMT -5
The most current issue with chinese scooters is located on the seat.
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Post by prodigit on Jul 22, 2012 9:36:27 GMT -5
The most current issue with chinese scooters is located on the seat. Thank you for clearing that up  |
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Post by greg on Jul 22, 2012 9:44:10 GMT -5
what you should do to learn is just read up alot on a daily basis on these forums other peoples problems will probably be yours too quite soon. where to dispose of the oil? i just dump it on the ground. use any oil for the first 1k or so miles then you may want to switch to synthetic. its up to you really doesnt matter. just come here daily and read its the best thing you could do. and youtube vids.
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Post by larry001964 on Jul 22, 2012 10:08:45 GMT -5
We all learn by doing,
After a couple of times doing a valve adjustment you will become very proficient in it.. It's really that simple.. And only becomes an issue when it's not done. Many like to blame the scooter, when in reality it's it's owners fault for not performing this normal maintenance procedure.. If you don't wish to adjust the valves and have nobody that can do it for you then perhaps a two stroke is a better choice for you..
Disposing of Oil as others here have said, you can take your old oil most auto parts stores and they will gladly take it and dispose of it properly. Again if this is a problem for you then perhaps a two stroke would be a better choice.
Tools yes you will need some, a decent socket set, screwdriver, a few wrenches and you have it. the total cost for all of this is under 20 dollars at any Walmart.
Many times when one is choosing a scooter many often underestimate or simply have no clue the maintenance requirements or rely on someone other than themselves to do this. Often this leads to a scooter that's not properly maintained and causes problems as a result.. When one mentions a valve adjustment many go " I have to do that ?" and become scared because they are imagining this to be much more complicated than it really is, they put off doing it as a result.. Again creating even more headaches for the owner and giving the scooter a bad rap..
It is important to choose your scooter wisely according to your willingness to learn, and perform these maintenance task, and your mechanical ability... If one does not want to adjust valves every 1000 miles or change oil, then as i said a two stroke is an excellent choice and will give much enjoyment.. Im not a two stroke fan myself, but I understand their strengths and how and when their strengths better suit the application... Good Luck :-)
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Post by 12string on Jul 22, 2012 12:03:35 GMT -5
My advice is, if you are not mechanical inclined is to purchase a used Japanese scoot (Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha) they require little maintenance and you can find many dealers that are willing to work on them. For example a lightly used Honda Reflex 250 can be bought for the price of a new Chinese scoot with little to none of the problems associated with the Chinese clones Just my $.02
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Post by prodigit on Jul 22, 2012 12:07:40 GMT -5
Ok, any good link to a valve adjustment on a similar scooter as mine (BMS TBX 260)?
Am I to expect to de-mount the whole bike, or can I expect it to be fairly accessible?
Is the valve adjustment, adjusting the valve height, or is it like putting some cream on them and scrub them against the body, for a better seal (out of lack of words for the correct english terms)?
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Post by katastroff on Jul 22, 2012 12:37:44 GMT -5
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Post by OverReved on Jul 22, 2012 14:18:53 GMT -5
what you should do to learn is just read up alot on a daily basis on these forums other peoples problems will probably be yours too quite soon. where to dispose of the oil? i just dump it on the ground. use any oil for the first 1k or so miles then you may want to switch to synthetic. its up to you really doesnt matter. just come here daily and read its the best thing you could do. and youtube vids. You just Dump.. your used oil... on the ground. You sir are an ignorant ass hole. If you don't know what to do with your used oils and antifreeze PLEASE put it in an old plastic jug and take it to basically any retail chain parts store. Tell them you have old oil and they will handle the rest for you for Free. You do not even need to do this for every oil change.. you can collect gallons of the stuff over time to take in one trip. |
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Post by acntvman on Jul 22, 2012 16:58:04 GMT -5
what you should do to learn is just read up alot on a daily basis on these forums other peoples problems will probably be yours too quite soon. where to dispose of the oil? i just dump it on the ground. use any oil for the first 1k or so miles then you may want to switch to synthetic. its up to you really doesnt matter. just come here daily and read its the best thing you could do. and youtube vids. You just Dump.. your used oil... on the ground. You sir are an ignorant ass hole. If you don't know what to do with your used oils and antifreeze PLEASE put it in an old plastic jug and take it to basically any retail chain parts store. Tell them you have old oil and they will handle the rest for you for Free. You do not even need to do this for every oil change.. you can collect gallons of the stuff over time to take in one trip. Where is the epa dep I guess the world is just for them. Screw the people on this planet . John |
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