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Post by als01seville on Jan 31, 2010 4:54:42 GMT -5
Dwild62, Yep, WE ARE WILD AND CRAZY GUYS:) But you have spent quite a bit more than I have. With all the mufflers you lost, a new head and know more parts to build another muffler, plus the tires. At least you found us the tires at a damn good price. sh!t I was ready to spend $100.00 a tire:) But I hope they fit without to much trouble and we can crank them up hope we get some good results. I am going to try them with the 12g Sliders I have in there now and if I need more rpms I will put in the 11G sliders. I also have brand new 10.5 and 11G rollers if I need more rpms:)
Alleyoop
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Post by kliff on Feb 20, 2010 11:04:23 GMT -5
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Post by als01seville on Feb 20, 2010 16:22:47 GMT -5
Dwild62, Hey I found a site that advertise 225/60-10 55N tires. They would be perfect and would fit under the fenders without any change. They are the same width as the orginals but almost 21 inchs tall compared to the 17.07 height of the OEM tires. The 55 means they are Max Load rated in the 400lbs range and the N is the speed rating of 87mph. I am going to email them and see if they are really 225/60-10 and not 255/60-10 and it was not a typo on their part. Alleyoop
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Post by aileronjack on Feb 20, 2010 20:39:24 GMT -5
Hey Al: Let us know if you find those to be better than the ones you and Dwild just tried. BTW....did Dwild like his better?
J
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Post by als01seville on Mar 4, 2010 22:09:03 GMT -5
Hi Dawgs, This Tire thread has not be updated in quite a while so here is some poop. Dwild62 and I have put Taller tires. Dwild62 went for the 22x10-10 tires and I went for the 21x10-10 tires. We found them on ebay for cheap and we ordered them. I gained 7-8 mph but they are of poor quality and are not round. It is not a smooth ride its a bouncy bouncy ride. So Dwild62 and I have been looking around for quality tires and we have decided on the Kenda Load Star Trailer Tire. They have street threads, supposed to roll real smooth, good quality and good warranty. They are 205/65-10 which should put us at around 8 mph gain but with a SMOOTH RIDE:) Dwild62 ordered his last week and has them already mounted and on his trike. I ordered mine yesterday so wish us luck on our SECOND SET OF TIRES:)
As far as the sprockets are concerned, for the front sprocket, a new hub would have to be fabricated so that common sprockets could be bolted on. The hub on the trikes is not your everyday Hub its a special hub. Also a chain tensioner would be needed to push the chain down to clear the cross-member by the rear sprocket. There is only about 3/8 inch clearance so putting on a taller front sprocket the chain would not clear at the rear. Either that or cut into the cross-member enough to clear the higher chain angle and weld onto the cross-member to keep it strong. As far as the Rear Sprocket, the size of the differential looks like maybe only one less tooth sprocket would be able to bolt to it. The front sprocket has 29 teeth and the rear has 30 teeth. So if one could switch them 30 in front and 29 at the rear that would give some gains in mph. Alleyoop
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Post by kliff on Mar 5, 2010 8:15:40 GMT -5
David will figure it out. He and I have already discussed at length the problem of changing sprocket sizes, hub fabrication, idlers, and chain size/type. The only reason I decided not to continue affiliation with david, concerning fab and testing of "proto parts," is his shadow.
Or Alley can break out his milling machine, and dust off his lathe(s), kiln and get to work, nuttin' to it. And if you really wanna get funky, after doing a heat treat hardenning, send 'em off for a double whammy cryogenic hardenning. That's what I was thinking, but since it seems Ally has it under control, I'm just gonna do my own stuff, but with patent protection.....just in case.
Can't wait to seee the first prototypes roll outta Alley's Fab Shop .
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Post by als01seville on Mar 5, 2010 23:59:40 GMT -5
Dwild62, Hey, I just designed an axle to except a smaller sprocket in the rear and designed the mods to the front hub to accomadate the changes in the rear design. I called my lawyer gave him the design and he is going to patent it, can you just hear it CHA-CHING!!! Alleyoop www.entertonement.com/clips/ymdqsrmmnt--I'm-richDaffy-Duck-Looney-Tunes-
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Post by kliff on Mar 6, 2010 7:54:53 GMT -5
COOOOOOL! Might wanna buy one. But have a few questions first, along the same line of questioning you would subject anyone else too.
#1 What alloy will it be made of?
#2 What hardenning process(s) will you be using? And to what Rockwell #, who will the verifying scientific lab be?
#3 what tolerances will it be made to adhere to? ISO process?
#4 How many years experience do you have designing drivetrain products to be used on State and federal roadways?
#5 What Insurance company will be carrying your designers rider?
#6 Who will be stress testing the prototypes(mandatory for D.O.T approval)
#7 Are you being require to submit 5 or 6 units to the D.O.T. for stress and breakage testing?
Just a few, right offf the top of my head, I've been dealing with, while writing checks, and scheduling lab testing dates, this week.
PS...I am kinda confused though. WHY would you design a new rear axle for a different sprocket? The spocket bolts to the differential carrier housing. All you gotta do for that is call sprocket specialists, give them the chain size, number of teeth you want, center hole diameter, and bolt pattern dimensions, and a new sprocket will be in your hands in about 10 days for around 50 bux. You really don't know a lot about these things do you alley, and aren't capable of decipherring what you look at, when it's in front of you, are you? You better let david take care of all the fab work...
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Post by als01seville on Mar 6, 2010 12:14:27 GMT -5
Your so predictable its really funny ;D You can't outsmart me, you should know that by now I knew you would come back and TRY to put me down I wanted to see if you were smart enough to LEAVE ME ALONE but NO you just cannot LEAVE ME ALONE can you? Well you FAILED THE TEST with flying colors AGAIN ;D. You even made it more obvious suggestioning to go and buy a sprocket and bolt it on. Since you DON'T HAVE ONE OF THESE TRIKEs you would know you just can't go and buy a smaller sprocket and bolt it on. Just a suggestion mind you, before making suggestions LOOK OR BUY OR BOTH BEFORE YOU LEAP into something you don't know anything about So keep writing your checks, and fab testing (like I or anybody else believes that). Have a nice day Alleyoop
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Post by kliff on Mar 6, 2010 13:12:44 GMT -5
Your so predictable its really funny ;D You can't outsmart me, you should know that by now I knew you would come back and TRY to put me down I wanted to see if you were smart enough to LEAVE ME ALONE but NO you just cannot LEAVE ME ALONE can you? Well you FAILED THE TEST with flying colors AGAIN ;D. You even made it more obvious suggestioning to go and buy a sprocket and bolt it on. Since you DON'T HAVE ONE OF THESE TRIKEs you would know you just can't go and buy a smaller sprocket and bolt it on. Just a suggestion mind you, before making suggestions LOOK OR BUY OR BOTH BEFORE YOU LEAP into something you don't know anything about So keep writing your checks, and fab testing (like I or anybody else believes that). Have a nice day Alleyoop No...again, you, and YOUR lack of insight or experience doesn't know, that Companies like Sprocket Specialists have existed for years, and CUSTOM MAKE sprockets to YOUR specs. You'd be surprised what a phone call can do, when you know who to talk to, and they have the opportunity to add products to their line.... sprocketspecialists.com/Products.aspxAs for the rest of this key board tag, yeah I'm getting tired of proving to you, how inexperienced you are. Because you'll never see, your short comings. But your peers will, and they'll come to doubt your expert advice too. Have a nice day, as you say, or implicate, you don't need my input, nor want it. I'll keep it to myself from here on out, and parcel patents out for ditribution...whether you beleive it or not....LMAO.
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Post by als01seville on Mar 6, 2010 18:17:37 GMT -5
I don't know everything as you can read on some of my threads. When I had troubles the Dawgs jumped in and made suggestions and helped me get my problems fixed.
You haven't proven anything about my experience, all you have proven is that your not a nice person and very angry at the world. I would rather have short comings of not knowing something which can be learned than your problems.
And I would take your input, but when it comes to me all you have ever done is try to put me down. That kind of help nobody needs and or wants and I for one will repond in kind.
And here again let me learn you something, its not the sprocket that is the problem, but the differential itself and the space. Sprockets are a dime a dozen for all kinds of products and there are many companies out there that have been making them for decades.
If you cannot respond with positive posts to try and help someone by all means keep it to yourself. Good luck on whatever your working on. Alleyoop
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Post by als01seville on Mar 9, 2010 15:39:39 GMT -5
Hi Trikers, The Kenda Load Star 205/65-10 tires arrived this morning and I took off the CHEAPO'S that Dwild62 and I had bought off Ebay. They were not round and when riding you would be BOUNCEY BOUNCEY as well as making the front end shimmy:) The Kenda Load Star 205/65-10 are actually cheap $38.00 each plus shipping. The Kend Load Stars 205/65-10 tires ARE GREAT!!! No more bouncey bcouncey, they roll real smooth, they have street threads None Directional. Also had them balanced one was off 1 oz and the other was off 2 oz's. They are 20.8 inches tall and they had to use the portable Power Air Tank to seat them, BAM and they were on. So you trikers that want to get about 7-8 more miles per hour on your 10" rims go for it. Dwild62 and I were the Science Project, it cost us extra due to the bad ones we orginally ordered but total of $200.00 for a 7-8 mph gain is not bad at all:) Also they JUST fit under the Fenders you have about 1/2 between the tire and the Fender holders. So you do not have to mod anything. Alleyoop Here is the Kenda Load Star 205/65-10 Tire mounted:
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Post by als01seville on Apr 15, 2010 20:03:45 GMT -5
Hi Dawgs, I promised to take pics of my Adjustable Fender Holders and I forgot I was to anxious to try them ;D But today I took off the Center Cover to check everything underneath and remembered I needed to take the pictures. Alleyoop Here is the Left Fender Holder, notice I still have enough left to raise them 1 inch higher Here is the Right Fender Holder:
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Post by Riveratheng on Apr 26, 2010 11:00:03 GMT -5
I have been looking for people that know something about these trikes. Just got a 150cc and there is quite a wobble at low speeds. Seems to improve at about 35 mph. Feels like the front. Considering tightening the front fork bearing "stem", although I can't feel any play in it. Any thoughts? Also, are the rear shocks adjustable? Rides pretty rough, stiff.
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Post by WildMan on Apr 26, 2010 12:08:09 GMT -5
Riveratheng Don't be just a Guest, join us Trike Dawg's!! As to your questions, My Ice Bear has a little wobble at low speed, it's worst when tire is cold... But I believe the wheel isn't true, a new wheel might fix it..
No the rear shocks are not adjustable.. How many PSI in your tires?? Try softening the tires (lower PSI)
What make & model Trike?? Join us trike Dawg's & tell us what you have..
David Sr.
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Post by als01seville on Apr 26, 2010 16:58:17 GMT -5
Riveratheng, You could try taking off the Rear Tires and have them Balanced. If the rear are wobbling it will actually make your front wheel go back and forth. Also you can try putting in 1oz of balanceing beads in each tire. Next time you go riding look back at your rear tires and see if you see any wobble or out of round condition as you ride around 20-30 mph. If you see the Tire going side to side or looks like its out of round then have them balanced It will help a lot. Alleyoop
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Post by riveratheng on Apr 27, 2010 8:21:34 GMT -5
Thanks, I'll check the rear tires when I ride next time. I have the Roketa/Ice Bear MC-102 150 cc. The chain guard was "rubbing", took it off to try to make an adjustment. The front mounting bracket was nearly falling off. Had to remove the front sprocket to get the front mounting bolt out. Waiting for the arrival of new guard to reassemble.
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Post by riveratheng on May 10, 2010 11:08:35 GMT -5
Got my trike back together, without the chain guard, still waiting for its arrival. Rear tires were at 30 psi and the front at 32 psi. Reduced the rear to 12 psi and the front to 20 psi. This made a big improvement to the ride. Afraid to take much more out of the rears, but they still don't "squash" when I bounce on the seat. It still has a little "wobble" in the steering. I noticed the rear wheels have been balanced, at least there are weights added. I checked the front for "straightness", and it appears to not be bent, warped. I didn't look for added wheel weights. I'll have to check that.
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Post by als01seville on May 10, 2010 11:29:53 GMT -5
The other thing on your rear tires is check the Castle Nut that holds the Hub onto the Axle. Just grab it with your hand and try turning back and forth, the axles on these trikes tend to move out a little and will cause a wobble of your hub and wheel. If loose take out the cotter pin and crank on it until you can see the hole in the next slot on the Castle Nut and put in a Cotter pin. If you can't get the Nut to line up with the next slot then add a Washer behind the Nut and aline it so its tight.
The other thing that may be causing your wobble if all that fails is the HUB itself may be the problem. Alleyoop
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