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Post by cfmoto on Apr 6, 2009 21:08:40 GMT -5
I agree with you 100%. Designer was NOT thinking. These bikes were designed for Europe and CARB was an afterthought. But the choice was to bring them in this way or not at all, so we made the decision. CF claims there is no other space in the bike for the canister. We will see about that.
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Post by bobpt on Apr 6, 2009 21:57:42 GMT -5
Shoe1,
Any concern on your part about the warranty being honored should you remove your canister (engine modification) and your scooter develop some engine problems later on? I don't know if removing it could lead to problems later on but just curious. It would be a concern to me. Warranty fine print and Murphy's Law, you know.
Bob
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Post by schoei1 on Apr 6, 2009 23:09:08 GMT -5
Good thought Bob. I don't want to mess with the warranty, but I will probably move it. Just moving it to the corner of the storage box will help considerably. Thanks
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Post by anhoa on Apr 7, 2009 9:36:42 GMT -5
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Post by cfmoto on Apr 7, 2009 11:10:22 GMT -5
The bike is advertise as 65mph because that is official factory specifications. In China it is illegal to make anything that goes faster for local market. However, the bike will go about 80. Last year at Laconia, we clocked Andrew (our tech) at 84. Andrew is about 300 lbs. 250cc is not necessarily faster. It's all about power/weight ratios and gearing. This bike will outrun any Chinese made 250cc out there... except for Jetmax, but that's not out yet. Please remember when shopping for CFMOTO products, we do not allow our dealers to ship unassembled bikes directly to customers. If a dealer is caught doing so, they will lose our franchise. We strongly urge customers to buy locally. A deal that may look cheap on the internet may not turn out to be so if the dealer loses his franchise and can't provide service. Then think about what you will tell your local dealer when you bring the bike to him for service. |
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Post by harrywr2 on Apr 7, 2009 11:52:37 GMT -5
Please remember when shopping for CFMOTO products, we do not allow our dealers to ship unassembled bikes directly to customers. If a dealer is caught doing so, they will lose our franchise. We strongly urge customers to buy locally. A deal that may look cheap on the internet may not turn out to be so if the dealer loses his franchise and can't provide service. Then think about what you will tell your local dealer when you bring the bike to him for service. I can appreciate your position...an improperly "Prepped" bike hurts a brands reputation. I bought a Yamaha in a crate when I lived in Fairbanks....the nearest dealer was anchorage, my opinion of "initial quality" wasn't particularly very high. There was a small flake of metal floating in the carb bowl that intermittently blocked the main jet. B&M dealers are less likely to carry a brand if they end up having to compete with "Drop Shipper" pricing. Maintaining a sales floor and parts and service department cost B&M dealers money. 231 miles to the nearest CF Moto B&M dealer places your products outside of my reach and I suspect others are in a similar situation. |
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Post by cfmoto on Apr 7, 2009 14:44:19 GMT -5
Please remember when shopping for CFMOTO products, we do not allow our dealers to ship unassembled bikes directly to customers. If a dealer is caught doing so, they will lose our franchise. We strongly urge customers to buy locally. A deal that may look cheap on the internet may not turn out to be so if the dealer loses his franchise and can't provide service. Then think about what you will tell your local dealer when you bring the bike to him for service. I can appreciate your position...an improperly "Prepped" bike hurts a brands reputation. I bought a Yamaha in a crate when I lived in Fairbanks....the nearest dealer was anchorage, my opinion of "initial quality" wasn't particularly very high. There was a small flake of metal floating in the carb bowl that intermittently blocked the main jet. B&M dealers are less likely to carry a brand if they end up having to compete with "Drop Shipper" pricing. Maintaining a sales floor and parts and service department cost B&M dealers money. 231 miles to the nearest CF Moto B&M dealer places your products outside of my reach and I suspect others are in a similar situation. If there is no dealer in the area, we have no problem with a dealer shipping a bike to the customer. However, bike has to go through PDI and re-crated. |
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Post by pugzila on Apr 7, 2009 14:52:39 GMT -5
What would be the closest dealer to Boyertown, PA 19512?
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Post by cfmoto on Apr 7, 2009 17:37:25 GMT -5
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Post by YellowScooter on Apr 8, 2009 12:57:24 GMT -5
I'd ditch it if the ecm won't throw up a service engine code...
Is that an underfloor gas tank?? Well being EFI, I reckon it would have to be an electric fuel delivery.
That would be a dealbreaker for me. I hate those useless stinking vacuum fuel pumps.
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Post by Cookees on Apr 8, 2009 18:55:08 GMT -5
What would be the closest dealer to Boyertown, PA 19512? Pugsley....you're breaking my heart!!!   |
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Post by pugzila on Apr 8, 2009 19:53:21 GMT -5
Cookies, if I needed another scooter, trust me when I say that I'd seriously consider driving the 300 miles west to pay you a visit.
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Post by Cookees on Apr 8, 2009 20:01:55 GMT -5
oKay...all's "forgave"...
BTW when you're ready..I'll meet you half way. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by looseseal on Apr 9, 2009 5:49:09 GMT -5
Way to go Cookies !
That's what makes us special.
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Post by jaxco on Apr 9, 2009 9:11:25 GMT -5
After reading this thread, I decided to order one last week and it was delivered by the dealer last night. I haven't had a chance to give it a full test yet, but I am very impressed with it so far. This weekend should be perfect weather to give it a full review. Here are some pictures. cookees, doesn't this look remarkably similar to the MS3 engine layout. Go pop the top on one and have a peek. Also, you need to post about this scoot on powerscooters in the dealer section. You know we are all about the imports over there. |
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Post by pugzila on Apr 9, 2009 9:16:04 GMT -5
What happened to the 12hp engine? Why is the scooter now supplied with a 10.8hp engine? I also noticed the wheels have dropped from 16 inch to 14 inch. Why?
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Post by cfmoto on Apr 9, 2009 10:39:17 GMT -5
What happened to the 12hp engine? Why is the scooter now supplied with a 10.8hp engine? I also noticed the wheels have dropped from 16 inch to 14 inch. Why? Where did you see 12 HP? Echarms have 16" wheels. Glory has 14". |
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Post by harrywr2 on Apr 9, 2009 11:12:05 GMT -5
What happened to the 12hp engine? Why is the scooter now supplied with a 10.8hp engine? I also noticed the wheels have dropped from 16 inch to 14 inch. Why? Where did you see 12 HP? Echarms have 16" wheels. Glory has 14". CF Moto China lists the motor as having 12 PS. 1 PS = .986 HP. 12 PS * .986= 11.832 HP www.cfmoto.cn/product/moto/canshu.asp?pn=CF150T-5A&id=8 |
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Post by pugzila on Apr 9, 2009 11:41:19 GMT -5
I guess I got this bike confused with the Echarm (which is similar to my Pegasus). They must be using different engines in the Echarm and Glory.
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Post by cfmoto on Apr 9, 2009 12:17:43 GMT -5
I guess I got this bike confused with the Echarm (which is similar to my Pegasus). They must be using different engines in the Echarm and Glory. Same engine. These are the specs they gave us. Not sure which ones are correct, but there have been no changes from Echarm to Pegasus to Glory as far as engine power. eCharm has 16" wheels and GLory has 14". |
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Post by pugzila on Apr 9, 2009 12:22:06 GMT -5
I'd love to know what the base size of the turn signals, dunning lights, and tail/brake light on my Pegasus. I want to replace them with LED's.
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Post by schoei1 on Apr 11, 2009 18:02:04 GMT -5
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Post by schoei1 on Apr 12, 2009 9:30:40 GMT -5
When looking in the manual, I noticed that the gear box oil is stated as 10w/30. Is that correct?
I have read that it can be common gear oil for aluminum engines.
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Post by harrywr2 on Apr 12, 2009 10:53:27 GMT -5
When looking in the manual, I noticed that the gear box oil is stated as 10w/30. Is that correct? I have read that it can be common gear oil for aluminum engines. 75W90 Gear Oil is actually the same viscosity as 10W40 Motor Oil. |
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Post by schoei1 on May 10, 2009 20:40:12 GMT -5
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Post by "Big Guy" on May 10, 2009 21:46:35 GMT -5
The manuals are reprinted for many different types of scooters... It is entirely possible that the one you marked as the drain is the fill and the drain is below and to the left - check it out. It could be a defect, but I would guess there is a drain lower and to the left.
-Rich
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Post by schoei1 on May 10, 2009 21:54:52 GMT -5
That was my same thought yesterday. I just figured it would be the same as all other Chinese scooters, but there was no luck. I will probably call CF Moto tomorrow and see what they say. Although, they may just tell me to speak with the dealer I bought it from, regarding the warranty.
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Post by "Big Guy" on May 10, 2009 23:45:45 GMT -5
Well in either case, it's not really a big deal. You'll just have to have them change the gear box cover.
-Rich
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Post by anhoa on May 11, 2009 9:21:17 GMT -5
I'm sure this scooter will beat the Honda SH150iT with an affordable price and top speed.
Anhoa
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Post by schoei1 on May 11, 2009 15:27:01 GMT -5
I spoke with CF Moto today, and found out that the fill hole is inside the CVT cover, and the drain hole is outside the CVT cover. That doesn't sound good, because oil should not be anywhere near the belt. Oh well.  |
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