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Post by dtwscooter on Jul 16, 2009 15:54:12 GMT -5
Just wanted update, my scooter just passed 5600miles. The last change of main jet from 115 to 110 got rid of hesitation in the mid range and looking at the spark plug, the color confirmed the right choice - tanish color. One more oil change and I'm good go again.
Original tires still 70%, original belt, 5600miles and counting..,
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Post by kithylin on Aug 28, 2009 19:42:35 GMT -5
I purchased a ITA150 for 800$, came with 3,600 miles, changed oil, fuel filter, s.plugs immediately.. it has ran wonderful up till about 5,000 mile mark, I started a new job, putting about 100 miles a day on it (mostly going full throttle, 60-70mph, give or take with wind, and road incline, and weather) I passed into 6000miles (which took me 10 days to put on 1000 miles on the ITA), on my way home today it started making very scary noises, like everything in the engine was loose, or full of rocks.. I checked oil level, was withen it's indicator (Note: it ate a full liter of oil in that 1000 miles)
it seems to be seeping oil from various places around the engine, incidentally it still ran well, at least acceleration..
will be taking it in for servicing, I'm just hoping that I didn't completely kill it. I really love the ITA.
at one point in it's life it ran WITHOUT oil, completely, for probably 100 miles.. the drain plug had come loose, and it lost all of it's oil.. I had not noticed (Stupidly) till it started making a clicking noises..
I just partialy hope that the damage to it's engine was from running it without oil (around 4000 odm reading).. and not because I was just running it 60mph for 1000 miles in 10 days..
Does anyone have any experience with running the ITA very hard? 60+mph for extended amounts of time? or have any hopeful thoughts on me not completly killing my first one? *winces* ugh...
Thanks!
-Kithy
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Post by leshassell on Aug 29, 2009 2:00:59 GMT -5
The gravel sound is probably going to be the starter clutch... it was on mine anyway. You've probably done some other damage running it without oil and all but there's really no telling until you start tearing into it.
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Post by kithylin on Aug 29, 2009 14:37:58 GMT -5
I've put the ITA150cc into a scooter shop for repair, it will be looked at monday, so I'll see what kind of damage I did to it, bleh.
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Post by bluesquirrel on Sept 4, 2009 0:57:28 GMT -5
I heading into a motorcycle shop (used to sell scooters) that has a used ITA 150 for sale with 300 miles on it. What sort of things should I be looking for that would be red flags?
Are there any easy tests that won't scare the seller for me to check for problems?
I am loving this thread even if I have no idea what is going on in it. I am jumping between buying new (znendirect - ACE) or this scooter since its a difference of $700 from a new scoot.
Thanks for any guidance.
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Post by leshassell on Sept 5, 2009 0:44:56 GMT -5
Crank it up and take it for a ride. If everything seems good, you're probably alright. With only 300 miles, if its running good, I doubt they've done anything that would be too destructive.
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Post by jspringator on Sept 22, 2009 12:23:13 GMT -5
I've put the ITA150cc into a scooter shop for repair, it will be looked at monday, so I'll see what kind of damage I did to it, bleh. What was the verdict?
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Post by jspringator on Sept 27, 2009 15:10:17 GMT -5
Has anyone solved the oil in the air box problem at extended WOT?
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Post by usfmarine on Sept 27, 2009 17:16:46 GMT -5
Has anyone solved the oil in the air box problem at extended WOT? Who keeps an airbox in their scoot?
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Post by abbynorml1979 on Sept 28, 2009 21:56:53 GMT -5
I have an airbox in mine. What are your thoughts on that, Marine?
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Post by usfmarine on Sept 28, 2009 23:42:47 GMT -5
I have an airbox in mine. What are your thoughts on that, Marine? I took mine out to simplify the scoot's operation. No more worrying about oil in the airbox, dirty air box, cracking air box. Plus, with just a UNI filter, my carb/engine can breathe easier. With a free-flow exhaust, removing the air box, and a slightly bigger carb, I got 7 more mph at the top end. If things are working fine and you're happy with it, there's not a strong argument for removing the air box. If you're planning on opening up the exhaust, and doing some performance mods, removing it can be helpful. There are better experts on here than me, ask some of them before you make a big decision (kliff, earlwb, to name two).
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Post by abbynorml1979 on Sept 29, 2009 16:27:57 GMT -5
thank you very much. i should drain the oil in the air box?
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Post by leshassell on Sept 29, 2009 20:41:35 GMT -5
You should have a little hose coming out the back of the airbox. Just pull the plug out of it and drain the oil whenever it fills up. If its filling up often you may have something wrong going on. I ran for over 4k miles without ever having to drain mine but I've heard of others who had to drain it all the time. I think over filling the crankcase is the main culprit.
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Post by abbynorml1979 on Sept 30, 2009 14:09:06 GMT -5
You should have a little hose coming out the back of the airbox. Just pull the plug out of it and drain the oil whenever it fills up. If its filling up often you may have something wrong going on. I ran for over 4k miles without ever having to drain mine but I've heard of others who had to drain it all the time. I think over filling the crankcase is the main culprit. Thanks, leshassell, appreciate it. I think I was overfilling with oil. Do you think overfilling could have helped contribute to blowing a gasket too?
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Post by leshassell on Oct 1, 2009 1:37:12 GMT -5
I can't say that I've ever come across that scenario but in theory, an increased level of oil in the crankcase could cause enough of an increase in crankcase pressure to blow a gasket. When ever you change your oil, make sure you've drained the old oil completely and refill with 750ml. Then, check your oil level with your scoot on its center stand and make note of where your oil level should properly be.
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Post by davidmt50 on Oct 1, 2009 19:12:26 GMT -5
Back again with carb problems. I finally got it to idle earlier this summer, but now when the temp was in the upper 40's here in Minnesota a couple of days ago, I'm back to the same thing. It will start, run fast for a second or two, run very rough and then die. No matter how many times I try it's the same thing. It doesn't look like I have any choke when it's cold, although after I've run it for 10 miles or more it will jump to 3000 rpm at idle and stay that way. Do I have to replace this damn carb or what? I hate automatic chokes, is there a GY6 manual choke carb out there? Thanks again for the great feedback on this forum and I would appreciate any help. David
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Post by kithylin on Oct 2, 2009 12:20:16 GMT -5
I purchased a ITA150 for 800$, came with 3,600 miles, changed oil, fuel filter, s.plugs immediately.. it has ran wonderful up till about 5,000 mile mark, I started a new job, putting about 100 miles a day on it (mostly going full throttle, 60-70mph, give or take with wind, and road incline, and weather) I passed into 6000miles (which took me 10 days to put on 1000 miles on the ITA), on my way home today it started making very scary noises, like everything in the engine was loose, or full of rocks.. I checked oil level, was withen it's indicator (Note: it ate a full liter of oil in that 1000 miles) it seems to be seeping oil from various places around the engine, incidentally it still ran well, at least acceleration.. will be taking it in for servicing, I'm just hoping that I didn't completely kill it. I really love the ITA. at one point in it's life it ran WITHOUT oil, completely, for probably 100 miles.. the drain plug had come loose, and it lost all of it's oil.. I had not noticed (Stupidly) till it started making a clicking noises.. I just partialy hope that the damage to it's engine was from running it without oil (around 4000 odm reading).. and not because I was just running it 60mph for 1000 miles in 10 days.. Does anyone have any experience with running the ITA very hard? 60+mph for extended amounts of time? or have any hopeful thoughts on me not completly killing my first one? *winces* ugh... Thanks! -Kithy UGH! ok.. weeks later, they finaly got around to looking at it.. they told me that my scooter is toast, and I'm not even done paying on it. :/ Apparently the crankshaft bearings have shattered (which explanes the weird 'rocks in the box' sound) and they they couldn't find parts... I'm going to be getting it back soon, I dont know if I'll be able to find parts for it, or what I'll be doing with it.. I purchased it for 1,200$ with 3,000 something miles on it, it got this problems around 6,400miles on it.. I'm still paying on the loan for it. :/ When I get it back I plan on disassembling it.. I have a lot of experience with it's entire assembly, as I have disassembled it and reassembled it 3 times now, for fixing, and when I had it repainted from the stock grey, to a burn orange metalic.. I will be taking a great amount of pictures as I do so, and probably set up some facebook, or photobucket account for all the pics of it's disassembly and what not, as well as trying to get to the parts that are broken.. Anyone have sugestions? comments? I'd hate to have this scooter sitting doing nothing, but it's getting closer to winter, so I'm not sure what I'll do.. Even with the problem I ran into, I *WILL* be buying a factory new one.. I love this one so much, both it's size, weight, and it's speed/power.. for a 150CC it really rips around, and I could average 70mph, on straight road, with no wind.. -Kithy
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Post by kithylin on Oct 2, 2009 12:21:38 GMT -5
(Note, I did get it for 800$.. I took a loan out for 1,200$ to cover other things not scooter related.. lol)
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Post by usfmarine on Oct 2, 2009 17:09:53 GMT -5
I've read the average life for a Chinese scoot with typical sub-par maintenance is 8-12k miles. Buying a used Chinese scoot is a gamble in my book. It really has to be a great deal. A slight failure in proper maintenance by the first owner can mean a very early end to its life down the road.
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Post by anhoa on Oct 2, 2009 20:12:42 GMT -5
Doing 70MPH on a 150cc is a recipe for a disaster. If you do get a new ITA, then keep it under 60MPH and your engine will smile for a long time.
Anhoa 70xx miles and counting...diapers.
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Post by misterlucky on Oct 16, 2009 4:13:45 GMT -5
Hello, everyone, and thanks for having such an informative forum...sooooo: this is what the internet is all about-having an information portal like this one around...alright, enough of the butt kissing...
I purchased a xingyue xy150t-7, online from craiglist, in my city, for a scant $360; the price was $350 due to "work" it needed, and ten extra for the time taken driving me around for tags and parts..
It's october; i bought the bike the first of september. I haven't as yet put any miles on it. It's a 2007 with 2400 miles on it, and it seemed to be just dirty..bought it with no battery, and kickstarted it-two kicks-to bring it home..
The whole rear light array was busted out..the battery cover/accumulator box cover was missing, no battery, and no headlights or signals.. but I'm figuring I'm still up $1100 from retail....
Once I cleaned her up, things start to look up...as per the sales ad, the damage seemed to be mostly cosmetic..this was an auction bike, that apparently was taken from somebody who didin't bother with registration..
I spent the better part of September, and the beginning of October looking for parts...went online to reach Xingyue Group, Ltd, in China; had my dealings with the now infamous Carrie Chai, who offers the best price per part item, but the highest shipping rates in China..the rear light assembly could be bought for $15; 16" tires for $30; but the shipping charges, which have yet to be worked out, ranged from $7 a half-kilometer (??), to $300 flat out with UPS..FEDEX didn't even list their China zip code for the factory's location..
I finally got wise to the game: the BMS 150 Pathfinder is basically a duplicate for parts. First, through superiorpowersports.com, i was able to order the rear brake assembly, and rear light assembly, which DID arrive promptly in exactly one week-friday to friday. From partspro, I was able to order the generic accumulator box cover, which got her even quicker..that took care of the battery opening and engine opening....now, I keep BMS motorsports bookmarked, for direct buying of any future parts, and right now, all I need is the rear rack.
What I still don't have is turn signals. I don't have a remote for the alarm either, but the turn signals flash when the bike is turned off: three loud chirps and flash...
By the way, in case anyone is interested, that Steel Mate 986D alarm system, which seems to be the identical model on my bike, with the grey case, is available, here in the states, for $30 shipped..that's right, thirty dollars, shipping included..it's on Ebay as I'm writing this...World class electronics is the vendor, and he's in Arizona.
First Impressions? Honestly? I think I might be lucky..the scooter starts "instantly", with my Walmart battery. I have that in quotes, cuz there's no choking or cranking, it just starts. It has exceptional take off speed, and it holds it's own or commands city street traffic...i'm used to riding 1100's from Houston to Philly, so I really wouldn't attempt a highway with this thing, but it does what I want on the streets.
I'm no mechanic, no matter what Lowe's says...(i was a supervising technician there, when Lowe's subcontracted TYCO to assemble and PDI their inventory, which included for me, the boss, riding tractors and mowers, along with the grilles, furniture and appliance repairs.)
The rear brake caliper was broken, which caused the pads to fall out, and the cylinder to grind against the rotor..not much damage to the rotor, but the caliper was done. There is no such thing that I know of, of just changing the caliper, cuz the hydraulic hose seems to be cemented to the fixture, and nobody, but nobody sells just the caliper, you have to buy the whole rear brake assembly: master cylinder, lever, hose, caliper....
I earned my certification title with the installation of that @##%% brake assembly: had to dismantle all the plastic, and then go into Zen Feng Shui mode of thinking, to figure out the puzzle of getting the caliper and master cylinder off the bike, without removing the engine...try it for yourself to see what i mean. Get those two pieces clear of the frame, by just loosening the air box..
I'm still under the $700 mark for this bike. The brakes cost me $110, the rear lights, $85. The seat is in perfect condition, the plastic, after cleaning, is scratchless to the point where the metallic flake is clearly visible on this all black vehicle...the engine has 2400 miles on it, and when i cleaned it with some green spray stuff, and sprayed it with silicon lube, it smells like new when warm..the muffler "bling" was gone before i bought it, and with matte black engine spray paint, it looks better without it, on this all black bike. the bike looks more 'supercharged' with the beefy black muffler exposed, than with some plastic, dragon ball style flash cover, from the Ultra Man era...
All the horror stories i'm reading here about scooter failure and problems, I have yet to see, insofar as the engine is concerned..my one remaining problem is getting those signals to work, front and rear. I've got about 5 or 6 loose female plugs in the steering stem, and the turn lights front are already hooked up...but i DO notice that the turn indicators are the only non working lights on the meter assembly..maybe, hopefully, it's just the switch itself...at any rate, a new meter assembly is just $60, +shipping. From the little bit of riding i have done, I haven't even thought of modding the carbs or jets...I don't know much about that stuff, and the bike seems to run fine without mods.
I also noticed, when i took this new purchase to the one cycle shop in this city that works on Chinese scooters, My Xingyue looked better, and cost less, than all the other repairs i saw comng thru....and this was with the busted rear lights, no rack, etc...!!
From what I'm reading here, 2400 miles is not the end of the road...from what I'm hearing from ride, that engine is the only thing that doesn't need work..
If anyone has a clue about those turn signals, please lemme know...cuz like anhoa says: 'i don't care what people say, 3 bucks a week is all i pay".....this was definitely a one time deal on price for me...i don't expect getting this kind of bargain again anytime soon..
Oh yeh; I'm lovin' it.
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Post by buckybuck on Oct 16, 2009 12:22:55 GMT -5
Is it the turn signals or the turn signal indicator lamps in the instrument panel (or both) that aren't working?
My instrument panel lights didn't work on my Pathfinder when it came. After days and days of messing around with the electrical system, I finally wondered what could be the odds that EVERY SINGLE BULB in the instrument panel could be DOA? It turns out the odds can be 100 percent on these scooters. It may not end up being that simple in your case, but if you haven't already checked whether or not the bulbs might be broken, you might want to.
I think you'll like your scoot. I got mine last November and I've put more miles on it (3,000) than I have my Burgman in the past year. I didn't know until I read your post what model the alarm was. I wish I had a manual for it. I use my scooter's alarm all the time, have never had a false alarm, but still wish I knew how to adjust the sensitivity. When I was emailing BMS about my light problem, one of their support people told me you could remote start the scooter with the alarm fob, but never explained clearly how to do it, and I've never been able to figure it out myself. (Not that I can ever see any reason to remote start it anyway).
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Post by misterlucky on Oct 16, 2009 16:20:30 GMT -5
the turn signal lights are the ONLY lights on the instrument panel that don't light up..the whole panel, gas, speed, hi/low beams; they all light up, but the left and right arrows are ominously darkened.... the strange this is, the signal lights flicker when the alarm chirps after cutoff..since i got this scooter from an auction, and it was already beat up then, i don't have a working remote. But i'm told that remote start is a feature of this alarm system. Sue Song, a Steel Mate sales rep in China, tells me that they do liitle business here in the States; the one dealer she referred me to is the guy named Flores, with World class electronics, in Arizona.
Worldclass-Electronics 3291 E Franklin Ave,Gilbert az,85295,USA
(001) 480-3260226
if you can call him directly, he may be able to ship you an english manual, for a small fee....like i said, he's selling the whole alarm system for $30, shipped, for a limited time..apparently, he does little business in the States, as well.
even if instrument panel bulbs were dead, should that affect the use of the signal lights?
lol...i really enjoyed installing that rear brake assembly..kinda like what a runner's high feels like or something, i guess. Apparently there's a certain degree of smugness awarded for doing your own repairs with these things.
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Post by misterlucky on Nov 25, 2009 18:42:04 GMT -5
this is a little late in coming, but to KITHYLIN: have you tried www.partsprousa.com, or bmsmotorsport.com for parts? Your shop could probably have found the parts, but didn't wanna do the work. BMS motorsport uses the same exploded view parts list that i got from Carrie Chai, who would like to think of herself as the leading exporter of xingyue scooters and parts to the US... Crankshaft bearing should be no big deal to get..search around for bms pathfinder parts as well as xingyue parts, and also with partsprousa, look under generic parts for 150cc bikes as well as parts specific to the xingyue model xy150t-7. You can get those parts, and if you choose to install them, since you've stripped the bike down before, so much the better for you.
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Post by randtheman on Dec 24, 2009 13:50:37 GMT -5
Hi..rand the man here in Chicago. Received a XY 150 T 7 early 08. Enjoyed it a lot in the warm weather. Only issues with it are the mixed up electrical connections ( no rear directionals). Got it new for $900..so far its worth the price. Your comments? ?
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Post by bcurljr on Jan 2, 2010 20:33:26 GMT -5
Gentlemen and Ladies,
I purchased one of the 2007 ITA 150's about a year ago. I have lost my owner's manual and do not know where to find a replacement. Does anyone know of a link or a way to obtain a copy of the manual?
Thank you and Happy New Year!
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Post by wpod on Jan 5, 2010 18:55:41 GMT -5
Hi Folks! First i have to say I haven't been here in quite some time. Secondly I was stunned to see that this post has endured in popularity! I hope my jetting pictorial has helped some folks-it would appear so-but others have certainly added value here for sure. Now for an update; my lady friend for whom I prepped this bike had a scare last year and at the end of summer I drained the gas-tank and carb-and she parked it in her garage. She's talked about selling it but doesn't like the hassle of dealing with all the crackpots that craigslist generates, SO...I told her I would see what the market is and perhaps even handle the sale for her. I don't know the actual mileage but it's under 300 for sure-maybe just between 1-200-Really(!). Anyway, the scoot is like or better than new but I fully understand that a used bike is a used bike and anyone buying wants a good deal. When I bought it the price was 1200-right before the price jumped to 1600-and since it is hers and I have no claim to it, the final decision on price is up to her. That being said, my personal feeling is that it should sell for 7-800, 600 at the very least. If anyone is interested and would like to throw a number out there I will convey the message. I want to make it clear that I don't have a dog in this fight, so to speak, but she is my friend and obviously I would advise her to laugh if someone offers her $150 for it. Even if you're not close enough to consider it (ocean county NJ), it would still be nice to hear what the consensus is on "a fair price". Thanks in advance and if anyone is serious I will notify Anna. If posting here doesn't suit, you can always email me at jmb1108@yahoo.com Thanks again, (The) WPOD
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Jan 6, 2010 14:29:31 GMT -5
Gentlemen and Ladies, I purchased one of the 2007 ITA 150's about a year ago. I have lost my owner's manual and do not know where to find a replacement. Does anyone know of a link or a way to obtain a copy of the manual? Thank you and Happy New Year! I would not bother with the user manual as it's useless Chinlish (Chinese English). Just download a GY6 service manual. happy scooting for 2010
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Post by jspringator on Mar 6, 2010 17:12:29 GMT -5
Has anyone had to replace the electric choke (enricher, bystarter) on one of these scoots?
Source?
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Post by 1982mustang on Apr 5, 2010 22:32:44 GMT -5
I have just found this forum and as I read it, I feel like someone is writing about my Xingyue ITA 150! Some of the same challenges talked about in this forum have happened with my ITA.
This is my 3rd summer owning it. Bought it new off internet as a new scooter/bike owner. I just turned over 3600 miles and wish I would have found this forum when I bought it new! I have two questions that I cannot find an answer to: -Did anyone find a solution to the headlight problem? I replaced both the small low beam bulb and the high beam bulb this past weekend. The 35w high beam bulb was a little short so I had to "rig it up" so the dual connector would make contact. That worked for about 2 blocks until it vibrated loose. The low beam bulb is very weak. Where can I find bulbs that work? -Now my horn won't work?? I checked all the connectors without any success. Any suggestions? I have taken the front off twice now and each time feel like the plastic clips are going to break.....
Any helped would be greatly appreciated!
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