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Post by ridencuss on Aug 7, 2011 10:25:46 GMT -5
We need to hear more on riding of this reverse tike. Maybe the ones riding aren't having any trouble Ha HA. Probably more like gave up or didn't find this site yet.
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Post by cliftonc on Aug 7, 2011 16:08:01 GMT -5
I have found that the nervousness I had at first was more mental; it rides just fine, until the tire issues. I kind of like it. The only wide-eye moment I have had was because it is limited to about 45 degrees of lean by the front suspension hardware. That is fine 99.9% of the time, but I had a Bambi moment on a back road around here, and really needed to do a little peg-dragging to avoid. I counter-steered, but when it stopped leaning I did a half-panic, and ended up with the outside wheel slightly off the ground, but it did not go over. All this happened in less than a second, but it seemed a bunch longer. I have been fairly comfortable with it. I have received the tires that I ordered (Continental Zippy 1) and when I get those on, I will do an update. I had the fuel issues also, but my pump was just dead; the dealer sent a new one immediately. More to come.
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Post by sarge707 on Aug 7, 2011 17:26:47 GMT -5
I haven,t ridden it yet. Does it do slow 90 degree turns into a street lets say OK. Do you countersteer at first at higher speeds OR just lean? I haven,t riden since a had a Reflex for a couple weeks 15 years ago. Did fine slow speed turns with that. The Spyder is not a motorcycle- Its a roadster more like a sportscar. Did you grease the 12 fittings in the front suspension? Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by cliftonc on Aug 7, 2011 23:48:07 GMT -5
* The slow 90s are the same as any, just the idea of seeing the outboard wheels leaning out takes getting used to, but the handling is about the same. I had ridden an MP3, but the difference is that the MP3 has the front wheels closer together, and you don't really see them. If this thing only had about 10 more hp... * I countersteer. When I get the new tires on, I will do a bit more experimenting. * Yes! When it is all together, the fittings at the end of the a-arm/steering knuckle joint are at a bit of an odd angle, and I had to buy a little hose thingie for the grease gun to get to them, but yes, good lithium grease all around. When I change the rear tire, i am going to take the opportunity to Loc-Tite all the fasteners on that, and I will have to lightly grease the ends of the springs in the rear spring/shocks; they squeak like crazy as the suspension moves. I have been down for a few days with a good old-fashioned summer cold, and the whole thing has been grounded - more to come...
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Post by sarge707 on Aug 8, 2011 11:22:27 GMT -5
I did grease the fittings as I was putting it together. You know Many Riders don,t even realize they countersteer? They just say they lean into it. What attracted me to the trike was the 2 video,s of the Big guy riding it and doing a Lot of slalom turns sort oflike the MP3. I hope it catches on because its Great Looking!
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Post by ridencuss on Aug 8, 2011 18:30:14 GMT -5
Well another day another problem. What I have now is cutting in and out on acceleration It stars and idles fine at 1800. When I try to accelerate it cuts in and out around 2400. It has done this with 2 different carbs and new lines. When I first try to start it I was getting no gas and discovered fuel pump backwards. Do you think pump was damaged running dry and may be causing this. Tech had me remove air filter and it did no good. He wants me to pull lines and check flow but, would like to save the risk of the gas spill.
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Post by edfr on Aug 8, 2011 19:00:32 GMT -5
Don't need to worry of gas spills, get a container and Take the Fuel Line From the Carb and put it in the container. Then Crank the engine and see if fuel FLOWS and is not Squirting out or Dribbling out. Having a Fuel Pump it should STREAM OUT and STOP when you stop cranking. This is to check if your FUEL PUMP is working good. If it is FLOWING then it is another problem.
Could be the connectors on the COIL are not good and TIGHT and cutting out the Spark. Could have an Air Leak around the Carb area. Lefty
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Post by cliftonc on Aug 8, 2011 19:25:54 GMT -5
It may even be The Future. When I rode the MP3, I got a bit more adventurous than I have been on this one, and the thing tracked like it was glued to the road. I was impressed. Perhaps when I get the better tires on the Sunny and get them buffed in, I will give it a more aggressive try. I did get a tickle thinking about it, if it catches on big time. I wonder what Harley will charge for a front-end alignment on a Road King Reverse Trike... ;D
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Post by cliftonc on Aug 8, 2011 19:29:35 GMT -5
ridencuss - this sounds like what it does when the front end is locked upright. Check that mechanism and make sure everything is working/switching properly.
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Post by ridencuss on Aug 10, 2011 7:33:01 GMT -5
Guys you were right on with the beeper. I bend the contact a little and it stop. I am still working on the cutting in and out during acceleration. This forum has been a great help but, not sure if I'll ever get all the problems solve on mine. Its one thing after another. Thanks for all your help. I will keep working and hopefully get it fixed. I will share my experiences and hope some comment will be about riding it. I knew when I discovered the fuel pump back wards I was in trouble.
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Post by sarge707 on Aug 10, 2011 11:40:53 GMT -5
If the Governor clicks in because of the beeping (Level lever) it will cut out every time you reach 4,000 RPM,S. Ask me how I know this???
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Post by edfr on Aug 10, 2011 15:53:41 GMT -5
I hope you guys are making compliants to the Dealer and or Importer. That is the only way Future Reverse Trikes will be upgraded, modified and improved. You guys are the guiena pigs and are going through the pains of the first batchs of those Trikes in the states.
Just like the IB Trikes I went through the pains when they first hit the shores and bought it. But I complained and they even asked for pictures and my thoughts on how to solve some of the issues. I got so good at it IB even asked if other customers could contact me to answer their questions and or tell them how to solve their problems IMAGINE that. Lefty
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Post by sarge707 on Aug 10, 2011 16:52:18 GMT -5
I tryed today. First I,m 62 and have a moderate neurological limp that didn,t affect me racing jet skies or riding my Spyder Can Am BUT even with the new tire (which seemed to be much better in round as I did another video) I just could not really get the hang of the balancing needed for this Leaning trike. I would have been better off with a IB Normal trike and be careful in corners. Looks like it will go on Craigs list from Hartford, CT area because I Just am not gonna risk an injury with no wife or kids to care for Daddy if I get off bad. At least someone is gonna get a well prepped scoot with all the pre stuff I did. It cost $2,400 What would you ask for it? (The back brake needs to be bled-I couldn,t get it done.) Attachments:
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Post by edfr on Aug 10, 2011 18:13:20 GMT -5
Sarge, I also am disabled I have a Fused Left hip, got shot up in Nam back in 1966. I have no ball or cup and my left leg is 3" short. I can not even get on a bike, Back in 2008 I tried a MOPED and It was a bitch getting on and off as well as doing a balanceing act at stops to lean to the right on my good leg. Sold that sucker in 2 months and found the IB Trikes in Jan of 2009 and ordered two right away one for me and one for my Brother-in Law and the rest is history.
If you have any problems balanceing get a trike that you JUST SIT ON LIKE WATCHING TV(HEHE). It is great no leaning no nothing, I have had mine since June of 2009 have 6500 miles on it. Lefty
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Post by cliftonc on Aug 10, 2011 21:48:37 GMT -5
I actually like it, except for it being so underpowered. I am building a comprehensive email for the importer. My Silver Wing, for instance, has a tapered-out area at the rear of the footboard area, to allow the feet to be more straight down when stopped. The Sunny does not, and causes me to be kinda spraddle-legged (scientific term) when I am stopped; my legs are out at probably 35 degrees when i am stopped, to keep the prosthetics from banging against the footboards. I am still considering doing a bit o' bodywork on the thing when I get it sorted out, to correct this. This is important - my fake foots have release buttons on the inside, at the bottom of the sockets, and maneuvering the thing around on the driveway, I have bumped the release button on one of them on the edge of the footboard, and it fell off, which left me to fall over to that side. The trike stops leaning at about 45 degrees, so it did not fall over, but dumped my crippled ass off on the driveway. My neighbor was out doing yardwork and saw it happen, and came over to help me. I was not hurt, but I had cut loose with a line of language - neighbor said some of those terms he had not heard before, and was going to have to look them up to find out what they meant. ;D I have received the new tires (Continental Zippy 1) and Dyna-Beads enough for 1 oz for each tire just in case, but I have had really good balance off the rack with Continental tires before. My wife has us pretty active until Tuesday, and I will try to get the tires on after that. So - when I get the thing sorted out, the first two projects are investigating the cutout floorboard thing, and I will also investigate lowering it a couple of inches. I think I can do it with the shocks, and I will also take the seat to the local upholstery shop, and see if they can reshape it a bit. I should have everything done in time for winter...
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Post by ridencuss on Aug 11, 2011 17:33:21 GMT -5
Sarge first sorry to hear this is not the ride for you. I might be in the same boat as I was a Sgt and 63. I have not been able to ride mine yet because of the problems I am having. Not to as you how you know about the governor tripping in. I find mine cutting in and out at around 2400. I bent the contacts and the beeping stopped but have not tryed because I am waiting for a new fuel pump. Just bending the contacts enough or should I try something else. I hope you stay on the forum as you are very knowledgeable. Maybe a little more time and your master it. GOOD LUCK.
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Post by sarge707 on Aug 12, 2011 9:56:20 GMT -5
I sure will stick around as this is a Great group and I will let you know what happens. Not worth risking the chance on this one since I still have the Spyder which doesn,t require balancing and goes like ? Hope to hear your progress!
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Post by ridencuss on Aug 15, 2011 16:08:31 GMT -5
Well finally got on the road. I put on about ten miles today with no problems. I will take it slow as it is a little tricky to ride. I went on little runs and every time I went out again felt more comfortable. I did end up changing the fuel pump as i think running it dry harmed it. I will someday take the time to list all the problems I have had. I also thought that you could balance this at stops, if you can I have not mastered that. Well good luck to all and safe riding. SEE YA
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Post by dayseedee on Aug 17, 2011 13:51:33 GMT -5
Hi everyone, i just got mine fully assembled from supersport. No problem getting it registered here in Texas, i have the plates, ready to ride. Only one problem, it wont start!!! I had my mechanic come pick it up and he said it will start with starter fluid but cuts off. Any ideas for him?
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Post by budheavy on Aug 19, 2011 10:55:21 GMT -5
Well finally got on the road. I put on about ten miles today with no problems. I will take it slow as it is a little tricky to ride. I went on little runs and every time I went out again felt more comfortable. I did end up changing the fuel pump as i think running it dry harmed it. I will someday take the time to list all the problems I have had. I also thought that you could balance this at stops, if you can I have not mastered that. Well good luck to all and safe riding. SEE YA The mp3 is prob the only one that can. In this article it talks about having a mechanism that locks the bike from swaying so you can sit at stop lights without having your feet down. www.motorcycle-usa.com/225/4437/Motorcycle-Article/2009-Piaggio-MP3-500-Scooter-Review.aspxjust FYI...I'm still doing plenty of reading/research. Dave
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Post by ridencuss on Aug 19, 2011 12:18:25 GMT -5
Been riding a week now with no problems. I did not know that you could set lock while moving and that it would disengage its self at 6mph. Does this mean you can start out with it engaged? Learn something everyday and thanks for keeping me (us) informed.
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Post by ridencuss on Aug 19, 2011 12:28:07 GMT -5
dayseedee, I had a problem starting because the fuel pump was hook up backwards. I hope you didnt try starting to much as I ended up replacing fuel pump and carburetor as it clog up from trying dry. The pump should be covered and I would make them replace it as it could be damaged. Also my fuel line was disconnected at tank. Pull cover over tank to check that. Good luck and I hope you enjoy you new trike. Keep posting as it helps us all..
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Post by ridencuss on Aug 19, 2011 12:30:36 GMT -5
Hi everyone, i just got mine fully assembled from supersport. No problem getting it registered here in Texas, i have the plates, ready to ride. Only one problem, it wont start!!! I had my mechanic come pick it up and he said it will start with starter fluid but cuts off. Any ideas for him? see my post didnt use quote
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Post by dayseedee on Aug 19, 2011 13:31:02 GMT -5
I am not sure about the guy with the brake. Doing a slow 90, it is more or less the same as any. I have an old Honda Elite 250, and it is if anything, a little too short and twitchy. I have been riding it for years, and I still have a wide-eye moment now and then. The other is a Honda Silver Wing, which handles great and is very stable, but just maneuvering around like paddling back out of a parking space or something, it is really heavy on my fake foots, and if it gets a bit off vertical, it gets hard to handle, but it is the ultimate freeway bike. The trike, around town, is my new favorite, because I can lock it upright and maneuver it, and the weight and wheelbase are good. To me, it turns well - it has a different feel, but it seems to track well, and I am very comfortable with it. The sweepers are easy. I am waiting for a reverse trike kit for the Silver Wing; I don't want to ride a "normal" trike, so I don't want to put a Voyager kit on it or anything, but I would love to be able to lock it upright to maneuver it around... Hello i also have this reverse trike. Are you saying you are able to lock it soit will not tilt while driving around town? If so, how do you shut off the beeping when it is engaged? I am only 4'11" and i cant reach the ground so i was wondering about riding it with the anti tilt on.
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Post by dayseedee on Aug 19, 2011 13:47:16 GMT -5
dayseedee, I had a problem starting because the fuel pump was hook up backwards. I hope you didnt try starting to much as I ended up replacing fuel pump and carburetor as it clog up from trying dry. The pump should be covered and I would make them replace it as it could be damaged. Also my fuel line was disconnected at tank. Pull cover over tank to check that. Good luck and I hope you enjoy you new trike. Keep posting as it helps us all.. thank you so much for the info. I did not try starting it but maybe 3 times with no luck so thats when i called my mechanic to come for it. I told him yesterday about the fuel pump being possibly backwards and guess what---- U WERE 100% CORRECT! It now starts and doing the final adjustments with idleing and so on! It will be ready on Monday! How do you like yours? Does it feel safe to ride?
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Post by cliftonc on Aug 19, 2011 16:05:53 GMT -5
Won't happen. It is not rideable with the anti-tilt on. Some folks here may be confusing it with the Piaggio MP3, which can be locked when coming to a stop, and unlocks automagically, but take $7000 with you. I have prosthetic lower legs, and a rough time maneuvering the thing in and out of the garage, etc. I lock it upright, and get off on the ground, and walk it around. When ready to ride, I get on it and unlock it, ride away. At your height, you will need to check into having the suspension lowered and seat reshaped, etc. It IS NOT rideable with the front end locked!
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Post by ridencuss on Aug 20, 2011 9:47:32 GMT -5
I have tried engaging the tilt lock on stopping and it can be done. I will say that it is not easy as it works hard and can take your attention away from detail. As I slow down I engage handle and set the lock (not sure on speed more by feel) as I start off I accelerate and unlock tilt. Can be done but, not sure if it is meant to do. I also move it locked into garage and etc. Sure wish we could get a manual and more direction from dealer on these. I am not overly impress by tech support from motobuys as this is a new item for him also. I will keep trying and informing you all on the results.
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Post by ridencuss on Aug 20, 2011 9:55:50 GMT -5
Well finally got on the road. I put on about ten miles today with no problems. I will take it slow as it is a little tricky to ride. I went on little runs and every time I went out again felt more comfortable. I did end up changing the fuel pump as i think running it dry harmed it. I will someday take the time to list all the problems I have had. I also thought that you could balance this at stops, if you can I have not mastered that. Well good luck to all and safe riding. SEE YA The mp3 is prob the only one that can. In this article it talks about having a mechanism that locks the bike from swaying so you can sit at stop lights without having your feet down. www.motorcycle-usa.com/225/4437/Motorcycle-Article/2009-Piaggio-MP3-500-Scooter-Review.aspxjust FYI...I'm still doing plenty of reading/research. Dave Dave you are talking about using handle on df 150 for this right? The article is about mp3 so not sure. I have tried and can be done but, not easily. Thanks for getting back to me on this.
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Post by cliftonc on Aug 20, 2011 10:24:42 GMT -5
Can be done but, not sure if it is meant to do. I also move it locked into garage and etc. I am fairly sure it is not intended to do so. I tried it once at a stop sign, and as you say, it took too much attention away from the task at hand...
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Post by cliftonc on Aug 20, 2011 10:54:26 GMT -5
Okay, lets see if I can get a long post in here without the thing resetting. >:-( With the stopping thing, it is very clumsy for me, because of the fake foots - the ankles don't move, so I cannot tiptoe the thing, and the release buttons for the foots are on the inside, at the base of the sockets, and if I bump a button on a footboard when putting the feet down at a stop, the foot falls off. (has happened a couple times; it is embarrassing) I have also done this a few times getting in and out of my wife's Explorer. My other scooters have cutout areas at the rear of the footboards for the feet when stopping, and this one does not, so I end up very spraddle-legged (scientific term) when I stop. First course of action - Monday morning, I will make an appointment with the fake foot guy, and have him move the release buttons to the outside. Next - when I get this thing dialed in, I will consult with my weekend-fabricator brother, and pull the plastic to see what is under the inside of those footboards. If the rear area is pretty much empty, we may be able to do a cutout thing in the rearmost foot or so of those huge footboards. The passenger footrest area is not important, as I do not carry passengers, and I have a couple pieces of pretty, shiny aluminum diamond tread plate that may be decorative there. I have not replaced the tires yet; a nasty summer cold has had me slammed down (my immune system is not finely tuned these days), but I will get on it when I am operating again, and the yard work is caught up.
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