|
|
Post by mortar235 on May 14, 2008 11:57:07 GMT -5
The thing that keeps me from wanting a helmet is this logic (which may be flawed) if my human hand/arm is capable of unlocking and pulling up the chin peice, what keeps an impact to cement at 50mph from doing the same? How do you unlock the chin peice? IF its only push button then i'd be even more leary
|
|
|
|
Post by 90GTVert on May 14, 2008 12:02:46 GMT -5
seatbelts are push-button, they seem to work just fine.
|
|
|
|
Post by scooterollie on May 14, 2008 13:31:18 GMT -5
Mortar,
You raise an interesting point. I don't know of any testing results indicating a concern but then I have not looked for same. I would think this concern has been addressed by Snell and DOT testing.
|
|
|
|
Post by rusty on May 14, 2008 16:36:07 GMT -5
I use a modular helment and like it very well, its easy to get on and off with the front raised and glasses are easy to ware with it, As far as being safe it is dot and snell approved. you have to push in a botton on the front to open it. i think if you hit something hard enough to open it you are in bad trouble anyway
Rusty
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 14, 2008 17:35:26 GMT -5
My modular (Nolan N102) requires two separate actions to unlatch the face piece:
1. Pull out on a latch on the very bottom (so an inward impact isn't going to actuate it)
2. Push downward on another latch that only protrudes after performing step 1.
Easy to do with one hand, but not IMHO likely to be accidentally activated.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 14, 2008 17:37:08 GMT -5
I use a modular helment and like it very well, its easy to get on and off with the front raised and glasses are easy to ware with it, As far as being safe it is dot and snell approved. ... Which Snell-approved modular do you have? I was not aware that any modulars had gone through Snell testing. |
|
|
|
Post by mortar235 on May 14, 2008 18:36:10 GMT -5
idk, i'm sure they test the helmets by smashing them or exerting forces on them... but i doubt the shoot them into the ground at 50mph and let them roll. Even if the action required to unlatch the helmet is complex, doesn't the strength of the helmet come down to how strong the latch is? I know they are more convenient when it comes to sneezing etc, but if they lead to my nose being gone, there goes that perk ;D
|
|
|
|
Post by allworld on May 14, 2008 20:25:38 GMT -5
I am leaning toward a modular style helmet, they seem to be a good for the type of traveling I will be doing mostly.
|
|
|
|
Post by Dennis D on May 14, 2008 22:02:13 GMT -5
Just what are the odds that any rider would end up sliding face down and feet first down the pavement? There's a reason they call it "taking a header". I personally wouldn't be particularly apprehensive if they just flipped down and didn't even latch.
|
|
|
|
Post by mortar235 on May 14, 2008 22:59:18 GMT -5
Just what are the odds that any rider would end up sliding face down and feet first down the pavement? There's a reason they call it "taking a header". I personally wouldn't be particularly apprehensive if they just flipped down and didn't even latch. yea the odds of that are low, but the odds of tumbling down the road and banging your face on the pavement? Those are high, a human body rolls when it hits the pavement.. so your face will hit the ground more than likely |
|
|
|
Post by griff10 on May 15, 2008 1:13:19 GMT -5
The thing that keeps me from wanting a helmet is this logic (which may be flawed) if my human hand/arm is capable of unlocking and pulling up the chin peice, what keeps an impact to cement at 50mph from doing the same? How do you unlock the chin peice? IF its only push button then i'd be even more leary The push button is inside the bottom of the chin guard. If the pavement could get to that button with your head in it having it open won't be a problem you're neck would be broken already. Bill H. |
|
|
|
Post by griff10 on May 15, 2008 1:16:23 GMT -5
Btw, I've got a Vega modular that I wear traveling on the big bike, much more comfy overall than any other helmet I've got and a heck of alot quieter than the 1/2 or 3/4 helmets. That doesn't matter much around town, but after 7 or 8 hours of riding a little noise reduction means alot.
Bill H.
|
|
|
|
Post by mortar235 on May 15, 2008 1:28:28 GMT -5
Btw, I've got a Vega modular that I wear traveling on the big bike, much more comfy overall than any other helmet I've got and a heck of alot quieter than the 1/2 or 3/4 helmets. That doesn't matter much around town, but after 7 or 8 hours of riding a little noise reduction means alot. Bill H. Ok so what do the latches on these things look like? Does it latch in more than one place and are the latches heavy duty metal or something comparable? |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 15, 2008 8:03:10 GMT -5
The latches on the Nolans are metal. Don't know about the others.
|
|
|
|
Post by motomech on May 15, 2008 8:58:45 GMT -5
I have an AGV model.
The latching mechanism seems very robust.
I don't worry about it coming open in an impact.
|
|
|
|
Post by mortar235 on May 15, 2008 15:46:58 GMT -5
good to know, this makes me fear for your guys' lives a little less ;D .. still think i'll go with the full face... i know i'm paranoid ;D
|
|
|
|
Post by okie34 on May 19, 2008 14:59:56 GMT -5
I have an AFX Modular helmet and really like it. The only real difference I've found (Once locked up) is there is a small increase in wind noise over a standard full face helmet.
The one I have has metal clasps that are Locked when the helmet face is pulled down into place. To release it, there is a push pin that travels about 1/4 inch before unlocking the clasps, thus allowing the module to be pulled up.
The rest of the helmet is still intack and in the unlikely event that the modular section malfunctions in an accident, the rest of the helmet is still intact and will provide the protection it's rated for.
If you need more reassurance, think about how 98% of head impacts happen. Most are back and side impacts with the ground or other objects. There are a few frontal impacts, but again, these are mostly with the ground as a result of being ejected from the bike and your legs hitting something first. The forward motion prevents most face first impacts.
In my experience in dealing with MC accidents, it was obviouls that Helmets saved lives. Those that I saw were in more danger from neck and torso injury that from head trauma. I never saw a frontal impact. That's in 17 years of responding to accident calls. I can't say they don't, or won't happen as just about anything is possible.
Don't discount the Modular Helmet just because the face moves up and down. Even in a face first collision with something, the mechanism will most likely be down and forward, rather than up and forward. You're not playing football in this helmet after all.
JD
|
|
|
|
Post by griff10 on May 20, 2008 2:06:11 GMT -5
good to know, this makes me fear for your guys' lives a little less ;D .. still think i'll go with the full face... i know i'm paranoid ;D If you wear eyeglasses the modular is really nice. Not impossible with a full face helmet, just a PITA. Bill H. |
|
|
|
Post by earlwb on May 20, 2008 16:21:03 GMT -5
I am using a full face without the lift up front. I wear glasses too.
But I have been getting used to it. I'll probably go for a better helmet later though. Modular is looking better and better over time.
|
|
|
|
Post by rerun2 on May 20, 2008 20:55:03 GMT -5
I like the modular helmet, you can do a lot of things while still wearing the helmet that are are very difficult with a full face, such as TALK and be understood, drink my coffee, eat a do-nut, put on or take off my sun glasses a bit easier, and a biggie is with the front flipped up, you can go into a Circle K without having the clerks in a panic thinking they mnight be getting held up...
|
|
|
|
Post by mafunsalow on May 30, 2008 9:59:43 GMT -5
I like the modular helmet, you can do a lot of things while still wearing the helmet that are are very difficult with a full face, such as TALK and be understood, drink my coffee, eat a do-nut, put on or take off my sun glasses a bit easier, and a biggie is with the front flipped up, you can go into a Circle K without having the clerks in a panic thinking they mnight be getting held up... okay I'm sold , gonna get a modular helmet tonight ;D |
|
|
|
Post by newc77 on Jun 1, 2008 20:11:03 GMT -5
Good choice. After all, why would so many handbooks, riders courses, and safety books recommend a full face (including modular style) helmet?  Tom |
|
|
|
Post by sk8erdh36 on Jul 10, 2008 23:41:48 GMT -5
I love my modular helmet. I wouldn't get anything else. Best of both worlds.
|
|
|
|
Post by frankj3 on Jul 11, 2008 23:01:58 GMT -5
I wear the GMAX modular........and I love it!!
The latch release is insdie under the chin.
For it to release on impact your neck would have already been snapped back far enough to have broken your neck.
Whatever you buy just make sure it fits properly and is comfortable.
If it's not comfortable chances are you won't wear it.
|
|
