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Post by savage223 on Aug 29, 2007 22:55:51 GMT -5
Sorry if I started a thread I shouldn't have here, but I didn't see this addressed anywhere, and trailering scooters has to be different because of the lack of obvious and sturdy attachment points.
I personally need to know how to do this best, as I just bought a 2006 QLink Pegasus 150 from a dealer an hour away. I'm SOOOO tempted to ride it home, but it is new and i'll have to hit some fast and dirty traffic areas on the way home, and ride over two different mountains. Better to break it in easy...
Back to the trailer-
I have access to a flat trailer like guys use to haul snomobiles or ATVs. I have four ratchet straps that are long enough to connect from the bike to the trailer. I plan on making a pyramid from the straps- angles that keep it from going forward, rearward, and side to side.
My real questions end up to be this:
On a scooter like this there is a limited amount of "up high" attachment. (Most of it is fragile plastic.) I imagine the alloy case rack in the rear is a good point.
I also don't know how much to "compress" the bike on the tires and suspension. Because the LAST thing I want to see is my unridden, brand new scoot, falling over sideways, lurching toward the back of my jeep, or bouncing into someone's accura behind me.
Also- I've never seen bikes trailered with the center stand down, so I'm assuming this is a no-no and wouldn't help one bit to keep it stable and upright.
Please- if anyone knows best both where and how to attach it, let me know!
~Savage '//==
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Post by Aerostudent on Aug 29, 2007 23:12:23 GMT -5
I don't know much about trailering, but for your break in, I would actually consider breaking it in "hard." Search "Motoman break in method," and you'll see what I mean. I recomend this procedure because I have had good results on my scooter with it, and know of many others with similar good results. As for trailering, I would post this (or have it moved) in the General Section, you'll get a lot more people viewing it there, as I know very little about transporting these machines.
Hope this wasn't pointless...
Aero
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Post by einism on Aug 30, 2007 1:35:29 GMT -5
attach to the handlebars,one on each side rachet them down till it compresses the front forks. you can also put some on the back but it isnt necessary dont put the stand down it will only put pressure on the panels and possibly crack one. the dealer will probably know the way. also bring a couple towels with you just in case the tie downs touch the panels anywhere put a towel between them I made this mistake on a vintage scooter and the belt rubbed right through the paint, i dont know if it will damage plastic panels but better safe than sorry.
Mike
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Post by scooterlizard on Aug 30, 2007 4:46:56 GMT -5
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Post by savage223 on Aug 30, 2007 8:11:14 GMT -5
I couldn't find the motoman hard break in routine when searching. Can anyone TELL me where to go to find it??
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Tari
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Post by Tari on Aug 30, 2007 8:20:24 GMT -5
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Post by unk on Aug 30, 2007 8:32:57 GMT -5
I have a Roketa Bali 150 it has a handle on both sides for the passanger to hold on or to move the bike around in the garage. I trailer mine every weekend from 30 to 150 miles. When I tie it down I feed a strap through each handle and attach it a little behind the bike. I then run one from one front corner of the trailer and over the fuel fill door area and to the other corner. (I don't tie this down to tight but just enough to start compressing the front shocks) I then go back to the rear and tighted the straps, I pull the rear down about 1/2 of the shock travel ( to little and the bike bounces and can tip, to tight and it can tear the bike and the trailer up) and don't leave either stand down. If your straps touch the paint I use a rag to put it under the strap to protect it.
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Post by aristide1 on Aug 30, 2007 15:41:17 GMT -5
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Post by savage223 on Aug 31, 2007 7:23:56 GMT -5
Thanks guys, Tari!
I think with some garage engineering you could build the tire bikinis that are out there. Add a mig or stick welder and you could make one of those trailers in the previous link, though you'd still have some bucks in hardware like the tires, etc.
The trailer I've borrowed is a WIDE snowmobile trailer. It tilts to the ground so getting the bike on and off should be no problem.
There are two bars that are probably intended to clamp the skis on the snowmobile against the deck of the trailer. Probably inserted in the front loops of the skis.
I think I'm going to use those bars to help clamp down two 2x4's to make a channel for the bike wheels. (Additional large C clamps at the front of the trailer to hold the boards in two places.) I'm not trying to do anything with the boards but add additional support against tire twist. If it were my trailer, I'd lag bolt (2) 4x4's or 3x3's if I could find them- to the trailer. It'd give a real nice, high, channel for the tires to ride in.
The straps will be the primary method of holding. I'm going to do exactly what Unck suggested. These straps will be tightened fully as explained there.
In addition, I'm going to add a strap that goes from around the front rim directly to the front of the trailer. It won't be quite as tight as the other straps- I don't want to loosen them as a result of tightening this one.
The most major problem I have right now is that the trailer nearly takes up a full lane, with only about 1-1/2 feet to spare. It is so wide that my straps will have to run far to get to the tiedown holes in the sides of the trailer. I don't know how to skin that cat yet, but I may figure out a way to deal with it so I have a bit more downward direction rather than outward. (Steeper strap angle.)
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Post by earlwb on Aug 31, 2007 12:21:33 GMT -5
well, to trailer one, you need a wheel chock for the front wheel to rest up against. it is bolted or welded to the trailer floor. You tie the front wheel to the chock to prevent the scooter from slipping backwards when you accelerate. The chock prevent s the scooter from slipping forward when you stop.
other than that you use tie down to the handlebars to keep the scooter upright. Be careful so you don't damage the throttle though.
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Post by aristide1 on Aug 31, 2007 15:05:44 GMT -5
well, to trailer one, you need a wheel chock for the front wheel to rest up against. it is bolted or welded to the trailer floor. You tie the front wheel to the chock to prevent the scooter from slipping backwards when you accelerate. The chock prevent s the scooter from slipping forward when you stop. other than that you use tie down to the handlebars to keep the scooter upright. Be careful so you don't damage the throttle though. I guess I need to go pick some of those up tonight for when I van my scoot tomorrow about 200 miles.  |
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