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Post by Charlie on Jan 29, 2007 9:25:04 GMT -5
Yesterday it was only 28 degrees but I had to take a ride. Where I live is very hilly with lots of twistys and no traffic so it is a fun place to push your scoot hard through the turns. I had the scoot up to about 58-59 indicated and popped over a short steep hill (the kind you lose your stomach on).
After cresting the hill I noticed a herd of deer in the road and had to slam the brakes hard. The scoot brakes performed well and I was able to come to a near stop (about 5-8 mph) with the deer looking at me with that WTF??? look. Then it happened! I heard a loud BANG followed by my front brake locking up and the sound of metal against metal.
I was able to manage stopping without dropping the scoot and I got off and saw the brake pad had torn loose from the backing pad and had jammed itself between the pad and disk at an odd angle.
After I had found a rock big enough I drove the thing loose and road home feeling luck that it hadn't happened in the twistys or worse yet doing WOT.
DAWGS Check your pads to see if they appear to be well bonded and perhaps save yourself some road rash or worse.
Never have I seen this happen, EVER! I am worried that it will happen again. Anyone have a similar experience?
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Post by sussexscooterhead on Jan 29, 2007 9:37:07 GMT -5
WOW!
Glad to hear you're okay! I have never heard of that!
I hope all the members read this. That could have ended so much worse.
When you get a chance to inspect the pad please let us know what you find.
Man, I'm still shaking my head.
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Post by Dennis D on Jan 29, 2007 10:46:49 GMT -5
Thanks. I will check mine... before and after hard braking exercises also! Another reason to always carry tools. I drive older cars and always carry tools if going anywhere more than running errands. I have always carried some essential tools on any motorcycle... because things can come loose anytime. As I have gotten older my list of essential tools has gotten bigger. I now carry wrenches for almost every size nut and bolt, except the rear axle bolt, a ratchet and sockets for the same, sparkplug socket, screwdriver, pliers, spare spark plug, and a couple of spare twist ties. That's between 3 1/2 and 4 lbs of tools. LOL!
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Post by rooster on Jan 29, 2007 11:05:20 GMT -5
That's pretty scary, I'm glad you're ok! I wonder if the cold air, shrunk the rivets that hold the pad in place  |
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Post by earlwb on Jan 29, 2007 11:38:40 GMT -5
Wow! you are a lucky guy there.
I have never seen or heard of that happening before. So it is a first for me too.
I might have to order a pair of brake pads for my Roketa Fiji 150 as soon as I figure out which ones to get.
I plan on taking a lot of tools with me on the road, just in case. I bought a bunch of tools and a tool bag and have filled up the under seat storage area with tools. I plan on putting in some extra parts too. I am still pondering what will work good for the drive belt and getting the Variator shaft nut off that isn't too heavy or big. I figure I'd need a spare CDI, coil and spark plug cable, a couple of spark plugs. Maybe throw in a voltage regulator for good measure. I think a set of ATV CO2 inflator and cartridges would be good and a tubeless tire plug flat repair kit, just for limping home on.
I remember a couple of years ago, i spied a scooter up off the road once, and I figured the owner ran out of gas, nowadays I wonder if drive belt broke.
You know what we really need is a emergency drive belt, that you can put on and bolt together or something so you only have to take off the CVT side cover plate. Something that would let you get home at half speed or something.
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Post by Dennis D on Jan 29, 2007 11:39:52 GMT -5
HMMM, stuff does happen in the cold that wouldn't otherwise. I always have wondered just how many lbs of tools I was carrying around, so when I was doing that last post I decided to find out and went out and got em so I could weigh them on my shipping scale. Then I brought them back out, put em under the seat, and dropped it. I heard something fly off. It broke one of the little plastic tabs that til now, helped the seat line up right when I dropped it.
It's 10 degrees here.
I have had the liner on a brake shoe come off and get jammed up inside the drum, but never heard of it happening with a brake pad before.
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Post by Charlie on Jan 29, 2007 18:38:42 GMT -5
I had the requisite 3# of tools. Trouble was it was wedged in so tight that I couldn't get it loose with any of them. I actually had to take a rock to get it loose. As suggested the rivets were the problem. It looks a lot to me like two of the rivets were never put in. The holes were not shiny. The damn thing bent or warped my disc too! The remaining pad shows bad cracks and I will post pics when I get it out.
I know a lot has been said about the "fake" abs system but I think that is what kept me from going down...the skid marks were intermittent as they would be with ABS. I did do a reverse wheelie though...good thing I ate breakfast cause my ass kept me from going all the way over.
Now I have to find a place to buy pads. I will check with Stan first.
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Post by Dennis D on Jan 29, 2007 21:17:37 GMT -5
Hmmm, maybe we need to add a hammer to the tool list!
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Post by Charlie on Jan 30, 2007 9:44:53 GMT -5
I have one of those kiddy hammers and after this it's going in the tool kit.
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Post by earlwb on Jan 30, 2007 10:05:55 GMT -5
A while back I was reading about some people who had ridden motorcycles through China on long vacations. since they were Chinese bikes, they had a tendency to break down a lot. But it seems you had to watch out for the mechanic who only had a hammer to work with. I don't think a hammer could be used to fix everything.
:-)
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Post by Charlie on Jan 30, 2007 10:20:25 GMT -5
Earl,
In this case a hammer will be added to my tool kit as I am the mechanic (such as it is). That brake pad got so jammed up against the disc there was no way I could get it loose with pliers, screwdrivers or anything without weight behind it. I had to hit it hard with a rock in order to swivel it out of the brake caliper. I was lucky enough to find a piece of wire to tie it back for the trip home. This morning I am going to tear down the brake assy. and see if I can really determine what happened. Anyone have ideas as to where I get brake pad replacements and a new disc? Didn't see em on Stans webstite.
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Post by earlwb on Jan 30, 2007 11:40:21 GMT -5
Yeah I hate it when that happens. You might try the Roketa Website and see if a phone call turns up the correct parts. www.roketa.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=31_54It would be nice if they had photos of the parts. But I guess it would spoil the surprise. :-O |
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Post by Dennis D on Jan 30, 2007 13:23:05 GMT -5
Partsforscooters carries them, but they're out of stock right now, with no date on the website telling when they expect them. Since most of these chinese scoots use similaiar parts, I would try scootersgeorgia.com. I've heard they're very helpful and maintain a goods parts supply. This would be an opportunity to find out. Just take measurements of your pads first.
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Post by jackthefuzz on Jan 30, 2007 15:02:34 GMT -5
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Post by Dennis D on Jan 30, 2007 16:19:54 GMT -5
Huh.. they must not update their website regularly. Sometimes I have that problem myself, so I can't say much about that! Websites are never done, and seldom as up to date as the webmaster would like em to be. Well, once in a great while for a day or two, maybe!
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Post by jackthefuzz on Jan 30, 2007 17:44:48 GMT -5
well, look at partsforscooter's feedback. it appears that they have a habit of auctioning stuff they dont have.. maybe an email to them before buying would be in order.
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Post by Dennis D on Jan 30, 2007 17:53:44 GMT -5
Wow, 94.9% isn't very good feedback rating, the way feedback works on EBay. I'll stick to buying through their website. They can't charge you for stuff not in stock that way. Not when using a credit card. Just a few of complaints to the credit card company for doing that and they can revoke merchant status.
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Post by Charlie on Jan 31, 2007 10:03:12 GMT -5
Thanks Jack, I ended up getting them through the ebay account.
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