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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 17, 2008 15:04:28 GMT -5
I traded a TV I never used for this scoot. When I got it it had a knock, but now I know I just need a new head. It's a 2005, has 1,400 miles, and is in pretty good shape. i have the title and just need to get it insured, inspected, and and registered. And I need a nifty helmet, I even ride my commuter bicycle with a helmet(dork). Click for larger photos, this way they're dial-up friendly. So I am looking at a new head, engine gasket set, then I'll be on the road. I have two 1088 Honda Elite 50se's in storage, want to make one a daily townie and the other a 80cc stroker motor. I'm excited about finding this forum and am reading many of the tips and trick. I am going to remove the emblems come warmer weather, fix up the rattling exhaust and a few odds and ends. I am surprised it has keyless alarm and start. Rock on guy and gals, I am on my way to find a head and gashet set online.
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 18, 2008 16:43:23 GMT -5
Hey guys, what paint scheme would you go with?
I'm not digging the yellow except the fact MAYBE people will see me better.
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 20, 2008 5:05:04 GMT -5
It is happening, I really need to come up with a good color scheme. I am painting only the yellow panels, possibly the headlight piece and I'm tempted to go all flat primer, though it'd show dirt easily and won't clean with just a hose.
edited to to remove large photos
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Post by 90GTVert on Jan 20, 2008 11:57:56 GMT -5
I vote gloss black or possilby any other solid color. I own a black car, black scoot, and dress in black a lot, so I am biased. I don't really like scooters with colors all broken up. I'd rather see solid color or a real paint scheme, not just multi-colored panels if you know what I'm saying.
You asked for suggestions in my thread, so here are a few. Hopefully they don't insult you but I don't know your experience level.
If you like some other color, you don't have to use Krylon. I used PPG Pitbull on mine, and many other brands of standard spray paint will work just fine. Krylon Fusion works fine, but it's not your only choice.
Use a sandable primer for good results. I like to spray a few light coats of primer, then sand. Just a little extra insurance that everything is smoothed out for a dark color paint. Black is the worst, will show impercections more than any other color.
It's also a good idea to have some body filler around. I filled a few areas in my scoot. If you like to make it your own, maybe you dont like a vent or hole somewhere on your scoot. You could fill it in and sand. Done right, you'll never know it was there.
Be careful on your headlights. I like your black surround idea, just make sure you aren't painting anything that will affect projection of the headlight beam.
The main point of any of this, make it your own. When you finish your painting/body work and make it something that you created it's no longer A scooter it's YOUR scooter. As corny as that sounds, you'll soon find out it's true.
Good luck. Have fun with it.
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 20, 2008 12:55:12 GMT -5
Thanks for the input. I completely forgot about priming it. I have an paint gun but don't want to go about hauling everything out and thinning the paint, etc.
As for the lights, i am removing the lenses, taping off the reflectors really well and then painting the surround.
I agree it looks odd to have a multi-panel scooter, doesn't look sleek one bit.
Thanks for the advice, now I am headed to the store.
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 20, 2008 19:18:32 GMT -5
An update: So i got most parts prepped and painted. I was able to do the headlights and tail lights surrounds. They look awesome, will post pics of the tail section later.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jan 20, 2008 20:17:44 GMT -5
looks good so far. keep us posted.
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 21, 2008 2:19:40 GMT -5
Thats all the progress I can make until the engine is reassembled. I like the wheels bing yellow for now, but I am sure I will paint them in a few weeks ;D I sure am glad I went on a single solid color, especially black. Thanks for the advice
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Post by loudest143 on Jan 21, 2008 7:17:45 GMT -5
Do the yellow rims stick out too much for you? I think they look pretty cool against the black body. ;D If you're going for other ideas, there are lots of graphics that can be had cheap that will fit on most every panel. If you check out my pix in show n tell, you can see my aftermarket graphics that I got from ebay for about 30 bucks for all 4 pieces. Not bad, and there are lots of 'themes' available these days. Just an idea. loudest143 *cafe racer
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Post by vodavi6346 on Jan 21, 2008 15:01:06 GMT -5
you need some chrome rims mang
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 21, 2008 22:59:00 GMT -5
I am still unpacking from moving on Jan 2nd...haaha. I ran across these cold cathode blue neons in my PC parts box, got them at Fry's electronics for $7 on sale a while back. Ahh...its so rice. But my entire bike is, it says made in in china right under the seat.
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Post by loudest143 on Jan 22, 2008 5:24:31 GMT -5
Rice away my friend, I'm right behind you.... Was looking for led bargains last night! Make it yours. That's the great thing about the chinese scooters. It's cheap to modify and customize.
loudest143 *can I fit a honda spoiler on this thing?
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 22, 2008 19:02:49 GMT -5
I gave up on getting a ytx7a or whatever battery, but got a nice larger, more powerful one from walmart for $25. Its an Everstart and is trickle charging at the moment. I used the bungie from the factory rack(which i am installing a crate on) and drilled mounting holes to the frame, used SS hardware. And taking a tip from the "Tips and tricks" section, I added a switch so i can shut off the alarm to prevent battery drain.
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 23, 2008 1:49:58 GMT -5
Being that i am in Houston, Tx and preparing for the summer heat and city traffic, i am thinking of installing a fan on my scooter. I have this one sitting around and the valve cover access panel looks like it would work as a mounting location, I'd add some more vent holes though. Any ideas?
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 24, 2008 14:26:43 GMT -5
It is amazing how much i feel like a little kid, waiting to put together his first bicycle. I got my new head with valves in today. Not bad for $65 shipped. notice bent valve on old head Now I am going to port and polish everything before I go and install it...any tips? I also got my helmet in from moto-direct.com. Overall quality is astounding especially considering it was $21 shipped. Check them out, I am going to buy a full face helmet from them next week due to the quality, price and fast shipping.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jan 24, 2008 16:20:56 GMT -5
Now I am going to port and polish everything before I go and install it...any tips? I've never messed with a GY6 head, so just a couple of general tips for you. First off, be careful. You want to try and make a more direct path, not necessarily a larger path. Make sure you don't go nuts and cut into a valve guide. Too large of a port isn't good for performance either. You want to get a very smooth finish on the exhaust side, but you don't need a mirror finish like some would suggest. Flow testing has proven that there is no noticeable gain in a very smooth finish and a mirror polish. On the intake side you don't want a really smooth finish. Leave the intake slighty rough. 80 grit sandpaper is commonly used for intake ports.
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 24, 2008 22:29:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the advice. i am going to practice on the old head.
I love having "extra" parts.
I am going to need a exhaust gasket since these little o-rings are horrible I hear. Also i might bevel the steel exhaust flange to increase flow.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jan 25, 2008 0:56:07 GMT -5
Ah yes, I forgot to mention port matching the intake/head.
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 25, 2008 23:06:54 GMT -5
So I port and polished the head, carb, manifold elbow, and exhaust inlet copying this thread: www.scootdawg.proboards59.com/index.cgi?board=tipsandtricks&action=display&thread=1167504337 I also re assembled the exhaust with new rivets, paint, cut off the exhaust pig-tail and drilled some holes in the rear. Got the valves adjusted(thats a first) and carb installed with all vacuum lines and fuel line. Most of all, I forgot to install the block pins from the old head I didn't get to starting all this till around 6PM. Now that I have all of the parts and tools I hope I can get everything done right tomorrow in an hour or so. I just need to test ride it and realize reviving the scoot was worth the $100 and my time.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jan 26, 2008 9:15:28 GMT -5
Awesome. I think you'll be very pleased with the scoot as a whole, more so considering it's a trade for an old TV lol.
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 26, 2008 16:42:41 GMT -5
Okay, all is assembled and I couldn't get it to start. Ends up I have a spark issues...no spark at all. I looked in the spark plug end of the coild and saw this... So it appears I need a new spark plug boot which conveniently comes on the coil. Should I go ahead and get an upgraded? Here is a teaser pic, still need to paint the wheels and install rear panels.
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 26, 2008 17:11:33 GMT -5
So I am not even getting + to the coil but I am getting a ground on the coil's green wire. This is with the scooter ignition on and using the electric start.
Hmm...stator issues?
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 26, 2008 17:47:01 GMT -5
Ok, I clipped the kill switch wire and now I have spark! Time to go and get this thing going, battery needs jumped. To repair the spark plug boot, I used an old spark plug wire from my F150 tune-up and crimped it onto the stock wiring. I managed to find an old spark plug also and use the screw on nipple, giving me assured spark plug connection. ;D
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 26, 2008 18:31:57 GMT -5
Got it going!!! Now I can reach 55mph stock with 1,400 miles on it. I'll make a video clip later. Here is my only issue...
The scooter won't turn off when I turn off the ignition switch. i hope this just means I have a bad ignition switch and I won't be chasing wiring but if it does, I will.
I also have valve clatter. Intake is set at .003 and exhaust is set at .004. This is standard, not metric.
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 26, 2008 23:46:03 GMT -5
Everything is fixed, I figured out the kill switch is what I thought was the headlight switch. Seems My headlights are on when the scoot is running no matter what, never noticed that before since I never rode it at night. So I have changed the oil since I did the tear down, and once again after putting 30 miles on it. I also changed the rear gear oil...god it needed it. So tomorrow after another ride I think I will go ahead and change the rear gear lube again just to make sure i got all that nasty crap out. I love the little amount of fluid these things use...its wonderful. Click for crappy video
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Post by Aerostudent on Jan 27, 2008 1:42:23 GMT -5
Hey, first thing I have to say is: sweet ride! The second thing? Would you post some on how and where you wired up the neons? I plan on doing that to mine sometime, and a little help would be great as I am nowhere near being an electrician (not even an amature, I have some book knowledge, but no experience). Also, do you know what kind of current draw the neons have? I am wondering if I can safely run them fora few hours (bike-night) with the engine off, and not have the battery go dead on me. Thanks! Again, great bike!
Aero
PS. While the yellow rims look pretty good on it, I think that black would be even better! Especially if you could keep the lip chrome! Black with a chrome lip is my vote.
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 27, 2008 2:04:19 GMT -5
I have no clue to the MAh the cold cathodes need. I know LEDs will be better suited for little draw and being water proof. What I would do to guarantee no power loss is to install the LED's and then use a separate power source such as a cheap rechargeable R/C car pack or similar. All I did for the "install" was zip-tie these to the underbelly of the scoot. I don't know how'd they and the little transformer would handle rain also.
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 27, 2008 13:31:11 GMT -5
Wow, these little suckers give some punch...
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Post by joschmo86 on Jan 27, 2008 14:34:14 GMT -5
i f anyone doesn't get it, the audio is from a modified Z28 camaro. Anyways...
I was thinking about replacing the rear tire with a larger one...just enough to get some better top end.
Does anyone know what larger diameter tires would fit this thing?
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Post by 90GTVert on Jan 27, 2008 19:11:32 GMT -5
I don't even know what it has stock. If it's say a 130/70R13 you could try a 150/70R13 or 130/80R13. Just try and move up to the next size. I dunno that those tire sizes even exist, but hopefully you get the idea. I wouldn't step the width up too far unless someone can tell you the size of your wheel and/or what sizes it can accept for sure.
You appear to know what you're doing, but just incase more clarification is needed... The first number (130) is width, second number (70) is the aspect ratio (the sidewall height represented as a percentage of width), and of course the last is wheel diameter.
Be sure to check your clearances, some of these scoots don't have much room for the tire to grow.
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