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Post by Gary on Sept 6, 2007 15:33:51 GMT -5
I've been looking at various sources on when and how to clean or change the air filter on the CF Moto engine. There seems to be a lot of conflicting information. My best guess is that the air filter is a paper type, not an oil filled foam type. Is that correct?
Also, what is the proper maintenace schedule? Clean it (maybe with a vacuum?) every 2000 miles and replace it at 5000 miles or something like that? I don't drive on any dusty roads, but haven't touched the air cleaner yet, and at 5,000 km, its probably overdue...
Thanks all!
Gary
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Post by scooterollie on Sept 6, 2007 19:41:38 GMT -5
On my CFMoto Bali 250, the air filter is fluted paper between two pieces of metal. You might use an air compressor to blow out dust and dirt but it is not washable. Since few of us have accumulated higher miles on our scoots, we probably don't really know how fast the filter will get dirty enough to replace it. The manual with my scoot said to inspect/clean every 2K Kms, replace every 5K Kms. Unless we ride on dirt roads all the time, I think we could stretch that to 5K miles, instead of Kms.
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Post by Gary on Sept 7, 2007 17:49:53 GMT -5
Thanks Ollie. 5K miles between air filter changes sounds reasonable to me as well. Will probably do an inspection and cleaning this weekend.
Cheers,
Gary
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Post by luciano136 on Sept 12, 2007 11:34:17 GMT -5
Thanks Ollie. 5K miles between air filter changes sounds reasonable to me as well. Will probably do an inspection and cleaning this weekend. Cheers, Gary Any pics on this  ? I don't even know if my 'manual' mentions anything about the air filter... |
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Post by Gary on Sept 12, 2007 14:28:12 GMT -5
I did the air filter thing and have some pics that I'll post soon. The process is very easy and is shown quite accurately in the Honda Helix manual available on-line on the Orgon Vintage site.
Gary
PS: The air filter was very clean. Will check again at 10,000 km.
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Post by fangerman on Sept 18, 2007 13:18:23 GMT -5
Gary,
Was it easy to get to your air filter? I looked at mine from outside the compartment and could not for the life of me imagine how to get it open enough to actually take the filter out and blow it off when the time comes (without a complete disassemble)
You must be superman to take apart your scooter for maintenance as often as you do. My own scooter is still disassembled from one such adventure now three weeks ago...
On the bright side, my air filter looked pretty clean too (6000 km)
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Post by Gary on Sept 18, 2007 15:13:31 GMT -5
Fangerman -
On my scoot at least getting to the air filter requires removing only two body panels - six screws I think - so its not a big deal. I took some photos whic I'll post one of these days.
Good luck with your scoot.
Gary
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Post by Dennis D on Sept 19, 2007 8:26:44 GMT -5
Gary, while you were there, did you check and clean the CVT filter that's right next to the air cleaner? It's quite small, seems to get dirty much faster than the air cleaner, and if it's plugged the CVT will get pretty hot.
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Post by Gary on Sept 19, 2007 9:09:53 GMT -5
Dennis,
I didn't do that but will. Is the filter attached to the CVT cover? I thought I recall seeing it last time I chnanged the gear oil. I also want to blow out the clutch as it shudders a bit when cold. Someone posted that blowing out the dust helped that problem.
thanks!
Gary
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Post by Dennis D on Sept 19, 2007 10:21:35 GMT -5
It's to the left of the air cleaner housing when you're looking at it from the left side of the bike. You may have to remove that black body plastic that has the two screws showing in your picture(your other thread). When you take the CVT cover off it'll be obvious, because the air inlet is at the top of the CVT housing right above the CVT drive. Assuming it's similar to the Helix, it's likely a foam filter that you just wash out with kerosene or mineral spirits.
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Post by WarrenS on Sept 19, 2007 15:53:35 GMT -5
I would wash it with soapy water. You don't want to get any oil in it.
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Post by Dennis D on Sept 19, 2007 20:11:19 GMT -5
You might have a point... mineral spirits dries pretty quickly, but kerosene may not be the best thing to wash a CVT air cleaner in. Thanks Warstein... I'll remember that next time. I'm so used to washing air cleaners for fuel intake systems in kerosene, I really didn't give it a thought about the possibility of a little oil getting pulled into the CVT. I'll make sure to use mineral sopirits instead... I painted houses for almost 30 years and have washed all kinds of stuff in mineral spirits, so I'm satisfied that if I wring it out good, mineral spirits will dry in about 20 min. It's much more solvent than oil, and cuts grease and road film that can get in filters way better than soapy water. But kerosene practically never dries, and I didn't even think about that.
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Post by earlwb on Sept 20, 2007 7:07:02 GMT -5
My CVT air filter is a simple wire mesh screen in a oval shaped plastic frame. It doesn't fit all that well, so it'll probably fall off one of these days.
I just hose it off a little with some water.
As for my air filter, I'll just use it until it gets pretty crappy looking and then put in a new or replace the whole thing with a K&N uni-filter.
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? I don't even know if my 'manual' mentions anything about the air filter...
