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Post by stymie on Jul 13, 2007 18:59:53 GMT -5
I just found a local motorsports dealer that has a "new", never titled 2005 Daelim s2 250. Full factory warranty would apply, and the best part - $3000. I am not familiar with Daelim, but I believe they are considered a higher tier scoot. I was looking at a pre-owned grand vist 250, but wouldn't you know it, the day I decided I would buy it, it was gone - sold 2 days earlier. Anyway, any thoughts or members who own one? Thanks!
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Post by Dennis D on Jul 13, 2007 19:23:47 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that Daelin has a Kymco engine. Sweet deal! The going rate for a new 2007 model is a bit above $4,000.
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Post by Aaron on Jul 13, 2007 22:28:11 GMT -5
Daelim is a good bet... go for it! We have one S2 owner on the form but I can't remember who right now...
Aaron
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Post by scottfla on Jul 13, 2007 22:33:44 GMT -5
Gusset, he even has a website about his Daelim, seems to really like it. I was reading his site today but the link is at my work computer  |
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Post by gusset on Jul 14, 2007 2:23:27 GMT -5
Recently tastroman bought one, also. He came from owning a Honda that served him well for a number of years, so his standards of reviewing the machine are somewhat more picky than mine.
Web site link is in my signature, in case you care to read my experience. I need to make an entry...it's been a couple of months.
If indeed the warranty is fresh (ie good for the full two years), $3000 for a "new" 2005 S2 250 sounds like a pretty good deal to me. I think the only changes from '05 to '07 were that they added the rear seat backrest and top case mount plate. Beyond that, I think it's the same scooter but for the odd cosmetic touch here or there.
If you decide to buy it, make sure it's running well when you take delivery, in case it's spent the last two years doing nothing except sit there on the showroom floor or in some warehouse. Doubtful, and perhaps stating the obvious, but it came to mind.
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Post by tastroman on Jul 14, 2007 10:26:53 GMT -5
I bought an S-2 about a month ago so it is a little early for me to draw any conclusions. I would say that $3000 is a very good price for the S-2. I paid $3500 for a 2006 demo with about 200 miles on it. I think the 2007's retail for something like $4199.
And yes, it does have a Kymco engine.
Gusset, at one time you said you were noticing a vibration and were thinking about replacing the belt. I notice an oscillating vibration at cruising speed most noticeable around 50mph. Even at constant speed the vibration starts and stops at varying intervals. I do not notice it when I am accelerating or when I am off throttle. It is not that bad and does not seem to be affecting performance, its just slightly noticeable. Does this sound similar to the vibration yours was having?
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Post by gusset on Jul 14, 2007 20:37:58 GMT -5
Gusset, at one time you said you were noticing a vibration and were thinking about replacing the belt. I notice an oscillating vibration at cruising speed most noticeable around 50mph. Even at constant speed the vibration starts and stops at varying intervals. I do not notice it when I am accelerating or when I am off throttle. It is not that bad and does not seem to be affecting performance, its just slightly noticeable. Does this sound similar to the vibration yours was having? I don't think so. The thing I was referring to doesn't start until the speedo passes 70 or so, and the vibration tends to stay constant above that. It isn't bothersome, just something I notice. (I also think I experience what you describe above, and "just slightly noticeable" is a good characterization; have to be feeling for it to notice it.) I had the belt changed when I had the bike's 8000km servicing done last week. The "symptom" is still there; my hypothesis didn't pan out. Given that I've read of this sort of thing (extra vibe at freeway speeds) occurring on Kymco, Suzuki, Honda, and other scoots, and given that swapping out the belt did not eliminate it, I've narrowed it down to two possibilities: 1) fact of life with a belt CVT, or 2) some sort of byproduct of my rear tire that is worn down into the wear bars. The vibe is not very intrusive, so I'm not in a huge tizzy about it...I plan to change the tire in the August or September time frame, and I'll post here and/or on my site whether it addresses the issue. |
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Post by HPS MotorSports LLC on Jul 14, 2007 22:04:21 GMT -5
that is a good price for the Daelim. I sell them for $4300 (including freight and prep) I have had a couple S2-250's where the nut that holds the clutch on underthe clutch bell actually come off. alittle vibration at first but then the nut came all the way off and it will squeal like a stuffed pig and the rear tire feels like its locked up. I might take the cover off and check that nut. the other vibration was a wheel out of balance.
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Post by stymie on Jul 14, 2007 23:59:30 GMT -5
Thank you for the replies guys. Gusset, I did take a look at your web site - I enjoyed hearing about the scooter and have found it extremely hard to gather any opinions on it, although I have only come across this deal a few days ago. According to Daelim's own website, this dealer is an authorized dealer, and is located only 10 minutes away from me, which is a huge plus. I live in the mountains of eastern PA - coal mining region - and population and commerce can be a bit sparse. I have always liked the Kymco grand vista and have found a dealer (1 1/2 hours away) selling them for $3999 - but for $1000 less and a 10 minute drive for service, this seems like a pretty good deal. Based on what you guys have said, and the very few reviews I have come across, my impression of the S2 250 is that is not a flashy or fancy scooter, average storage capacity, but reliable and everyone seems to feel it has more than enough motor to feel comfortable on highways or going over mountains - both of which I would have to do in my neck of the woods. I am going to check it out in person on Monday night - I'll let you guys know how I make out. Thanks again for the feedback.
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Post by tastroman on Jul 15, 2007 9:41:40 GMT -5
that is a good price for the Daelim. I sell them for $4300 (including freight and prep) I have had a couple S2-250's where the nut that holds the clutch on underthe clutch bell actually come off. alittle vibration at first but then the nut came all the way off and it will squeal like a stuffed pig and the rear tire feels like its locked up. I might take the cover off and check that nut. the other vibration was a wheel out of balance. Thanks for the reply. Could you be a little more specific about the location of the nut you are referring to. I looked at the schematic in the service manual and I am not sure what nut I need to check. |
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Post by tastroman on Jul 15, 2007 9:55:10 GMT -5
I finally passed my break in interval last week and decided to take it out on the highway to see what it would do. Once I hit about 65mph the scooter developed a shaking/bouncing that worsened as my speed increased. By 75mph it was bad enough that I could not see out of the mirrors. Taking the advice of CBX man from the Daelim Yahoo board, I had my front wheel balanced and that fixed the problem.
The wheel from the S-2 would not fit on the Snap On speed balancer at the Honda shop so the wheel had to be balanced by hand.
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Post by gusset on Jul 15, 2007 23:27:41 GMT -5
Based on what you guys have said, and the very few reviews I have come across, my impression of the S2 250 is that is not a flashy or fancy scooter, average storage capacity, but reliable and everyone seems to feel it has more than enough motor to feel comfortable on highways or going over mountains - both of which I would have to do in my neck of the woods. That's a fair assessment. An S2, while I personally like the look/shape of the body, would probably not win a scooter beauty contest, especially where the instrument cluster is concerned. ;D What puts it into its price range is quality, refinement, and, as you mentioned, reliability. The only portion of your summary that MIGHT be worth re-evaluating is cargo capacity. It is true that there is no built-in cubby-hole up front for a wallet or sunglasses. However, the S2's underseat fits helmets that some 250cc bikes can't, and it has a flat floor and bag clip...many scooters have a tunnel or raised section, similar to a console in an automobile. Some don't like the look of the flat floor, but it provides a considerable utility boost. That all-important case of beer that you run to the convenience store for, that won't fit under the seat, WILL fit on the flat floor, and the football party will be saved.  In any event, keep us posted how things turn out, and good luck in whatever you decide to do or purchase. |
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Post by Gary on Jul 17, 2007 17:36:08 GMT -5
An interesting tidbit: Mike of Hyproscooters said the Daelim factory told him that the 250s will be CARB certified in 2 to 3 weeks. (They obviously must have been working on this for some time).
Anyway, possibly another option for those of us on the left coast.
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Post by eggman on Sept 16, 2007 0:12:13 GMT -5
Howdy,
My Daelim S2-125 (same as the S2-250, but with a 125cc engine) has been reliable save for a crappy stock battery, which I've replaced. I'm 250, my little wife all of 110 lbs. We occaisionally ride 2 up and do just fine for urban commutes.
On a practical note, this bike is a good grocery hauler with it's generous under-seat storage, flat floorboard and it's bag hook-a thoughtful touch. It sports a 3 gallon fuel tank and a short windscreen which is little help against buffeting; I replace mine and it helps alleviate wind resistance. It's one fun little commuter!
Eggman
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