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Post by livewire on Apr 22, 2007 4:59:51 GMT -5
Hi
I ordered a new Tank 250 DE Touring. The directions were pretty much non-exsistant but between on line instructions and a little brain power I got it all together..Not bad actually.
My problem is now that it's together, battery charged etc, I turn the key and hit the ignition..i get nothing. No lights, no crank, no power of any sort. What am i missing? I checked the battery and i'm getting 12v as required.
Thanks
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Post by scooterollie on Apr 22, 2007 6:59:34 GMT -5
livewire;
Welcome to the Dawg Pound! One thought comes to mind. Are you squeezing one of the brake levers while you hit the starter button? Also, is the "Kill" switch in the run position? These are two simple things which you may already have checked but are worth mentioning.
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Post by livewire on Apr 22, 2007 7:32:08 GMT -5
yep, aware of both of those....i finally got some power..Briefly..it keeps blowing the in line 15 A fuse....
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Post by scooterollie on Apr 22, 2007 12:19:05 GMT -5
Sounds like a short somewhere. Guess you will have to dig into it to try and locate the short. Sorry, not much help.
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Post by Javarod on Apr 22, 2007 21:27:44 GMT -5
What part of the world are you in? Ifn you're near me, I might be able to help (just nailed down a short that was killing my battery and a few other things on mine).
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Post by livewire on Apr 23, 2007 12:14:00 GMT -5
I figured out yesterday there was a bad fuse in the line attached to the battery. It looked ok but as soon as i switched it, i was able to start it. I had an odd buzzing when i turned the key.Turned out to be the flasher relay and it was getting hot. Need to replace i guess. Knowing what i know about the fuses, i'm thinking of switching them all out for new ones.
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Post by scooterollie on Apr 23, 2007 16:13:59 GMT -5
Livewire;
Glad you tracked it down. Interested in hearing what you think of your scoot after you have had it for a while.
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Post by livewire on Apr 25, 2007 17:53:49 GMT -5
Hi..Continuing issue with signal lights with a new Falsher relay...Scooter is running well and headlights, tail lights, abd brake lights fine....can't get the signals to work. I tried disconnecting the signals in the rear view mirrors..nothing.......fuses look ok but i imagine all the lights work off one or two fuses... anyone else experience this??
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Post by scooterollie on Apr 25, 2007 20:31:10 GMT -5
livewire;
When the mirrors are installed, it is not uncommon for one of the wires to get pinched and grounded. Also, one of the three connectors on each side may not be plugged in. Worth checking.
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Post by livewire on Apr 25, 2007 21:44:53 GMT -5
Thanks, I'll give it a try...
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Post by livewire on Apr 26, 2007 6:42:51 GMT -5
Any one know the volume of 10w-40 for an oil change...big suprise, the manual doesn't say LOL
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Post by Charlie on Apr 26, 2007 7:01:05 GMT -5
I just drained mine into a 3 cup measuring cup and noted how much. Refilled by measuring back in the cup then into the crankcase. This method also lets you check closer for metal filings and such.
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Post by livewire on Apr 26, 2007 7:27:49 GMT -5
good thought ..thanks...i suppose in need to assume a bit of loss from transport and whats left in the system
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Post by livewire on Apr 26, 2007 8:13:50 GMT -5
Back to the signal lights..If i take the mirror signal lights out of the system (unplug the three wires on either side) should the main signal lights, front and back, still work?
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Post by scooterollie on Apr 26, 2007 8:33:03 GMT -5
livewire;
As far as I know, the other signals should still work. If not, then you have another problem.
As for the oil change, the sticker on my Roketa says ".8L" (800 ml). I have found that quantity to be just about right-on. My preference is for 15W40 diesel/gas engine oil. This is formulated for hardworking engines, both gas and diesel, and has better detergent and wear additives than regular gas engine oil. Roketa AND CFMoto recommend 15W40 unless you live in an extreme climate. There are different recommendations for checking the oil level but the one I have settled on is to set the dipstick back in the hole - don't screw it down. Pull it back out and if the oil is about halfway up the "XXXX" marks, the level is correct.
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Post by livewire on Apr 26, 2007 10:45:07 GMT -5
while i was looking over the wiring and connectors last night, i noticed a fuse actully plugged into a connector for something. Seemed an odd place for a fuse but it made me think. does anyone one know of any fuses in line to the signal light system??
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Post by livewire on Apr 27, 2007 14:07:25 GMT -5
Signal light sucess..sorta. As i went through the wiring for the signal lights i finally got to the point of unplugging the wire harness from the signal light switch. Tested the poer lead and yes i had power. So why no lights?? Anyway i looked in the back of the switch itself and what i saw was two, three pin contact sets, not just one set. Now i wasn't sure what i pulled the connector but on a hunch I re-plugged the connector back in and all of a sudden i had signals..but only on one side. It must have been that they were plugged in wrong to start with. Anyway, only one side. I had the side mirrors hanging,and after reading that someone had found a kink in those wires attached to the mirror signals i took a look at the side that wasn't working. A quick tug and now that side works too, except for the mirror light itself.
Anyway, i took the mirror apart thinking if it took only a tug to get them started, something wasn't tight, or something. What i found was a screw had been driven right thru the hot wire! I remembered reading that someone else had seen the same thing on a Tank somewhere.
So, anyway, tonight i'm going to fix that wire, re-plug it all in, and with luck everything, includung the mirror signal will work..Crossing my fingers
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Post by livewire on Apr 27, 2007 14:12:26 GMT -5
Oh, and by the way, i'm getting some hastle from the Sate of Connecticut concerning registration. AI queried at one of the larger DMV offices and they tell me because of it's origin i have to have a "special" inspection, and they won't issue temp plates to get it there.not much sensse there. I plan on going to one of the rural offices next week(closer to home) and hopefully they won't be so helpful LOL
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Post by earlwb on Apr 27, 2007 14:42:08 GMT -5
great catch on what the problem was. Those things can be most maddening.
Yeah, it is a catch 22 scenario. I used a carrier to get my scoot to the inspection place.
Do you know someone with a trailer or something?
When it is new, they have to have an "official" person verify the VIN. Other than that it is whether you need a state inspection or not.
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Post by luciano136 on Apr 27, 2007 15:02:53 GMT -5
Oh, and by the way, i'm getting some hastle from the Sate of Connecticut concerning registration. AI queried at one of the larger DMV offices and they tell me because of it's origin i have to have a "special" inspection, and they won't issue temp plates to get it there.not much sensse there. I plan on going to one of the rural offices next week(closer to home) and hopefully they won't be so helpful LOL Same here. I'm just riding it over there. I really don't have the time to go mess with trailers. I'm taking the DMV appointment with me and IF I get pulled over, we'll see what happens. In the worst case, it'll be a ticket. Oh well, guess it's worth the risk... At least I have a license and insurance and have have no 'ticket' history whatsoever with the cops... |
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Post by livewire on Apr 27, 2007 15:11:49 GMT -5
Luciano
I take it your in CT. Let me know how you make out
Thx
Jim
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Post by luciano136 on Apr 27, 2007 16:27:02 GMT -5
Luciano I take it your in CT. Let me know how you make out Thx Jim I'm actually in CA but they also want to inspect the scooter if it has never been registered. You do need a registration to ride it to the DMV though?! Makes complete sense to me  I do know that it should pass inspection as it's certified to be ridden in CA (meaning meeting CARB requirements etc.) |
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Post by livewire on Apr 27, 2007 18:09:02 GMT -5
The lighting..I found the problem with the right from mirror signal...after a lot of misery trying to remove those tiny screws holding th mirror assembly together...and finally drilling a few out, i got to the light socket and found the contacts all twisted and bent..Used needle nose plier to straighten out....then inserted the bulb..now all the signal lights work. before i button that up tho i need to make sure the contact will stay tight, so i'll probably fiddle with it a bit more.
One question tho....i het the red button for the emergency flashers...they don't come on UNLESS i flip on a signal light (either way) too...is that the way they work?? the manual doesn't say..LOL big surpise..
Hey i appreciate all the tips and help along the way.....hope u all realize that..thanks again
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Post by scooterollie on Apr 27, 2007 18:50:55 GMT -5
livewire;
No, the 4-ways should work independent of a turn signal.
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Post by livewire on Apr 28, 2007 7:42:47 GMT -5
LOL well thats not good is it??? any thoughts on what it may be?
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Post by WarrenS on Apr 28, 2007 8:40:52 GMT -5
Since the directionals and the flashers use the same lights and light flasher when you turn on a directional you are completing a circuit that is not completed by the switch alone. It probably is a ground wire somewhere. You may just say the heck with it since the 4-way flashers are seldom used and if you need to use them you know how.
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Post by livewire on May 1, 2007 8:14:38 GMT -5
I took my scooter 250 Touring DE) yesterday ( unregistered) just to see how it runs etc....It ran well but i only had it out there for awhile.The only thing i noticed,and i believe i've read other comments on this, is there is quite a bit of mirror vibration at low speeds. I can see how that would be considering how the mirrors are attached to the mirror housing. I might try putting some foam behind them once i'm past registration.
Other than that, coming up a steep hill, with my wife riding behind me, it zipped up the hill with powe to spare, i was impressed and pleased.
Anyway, once i get it registered and on the road i think my only other immediate concern will be watching the temperature and being aware of any issues of that type.
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Post by luciano136 on May 1, 2007 16:04:23 GMT -5
Hey livewire,
I got my scooter registered yesterday. First it had to pass the vehicle inspection and then you need to register it. The inspection really isn't a big deal; I just showed them the VIN # and engine # and he was pretty much done. I honestly don't believe they know anything about these scooters.
For the registration you need an original bill of sale and the certificate of origin. I only had a copy of the bill of sale but the person (once again) didn't know what she was doing and didn't even ask for my bill of sale?! So I was pretty lucky but it's all registered.
I've taken it to work the last couple of days (about 40mi round-trip). I had to tighten a screw here and there but other than that, it runs solid reaching 50+mph easily. The vibration pretty much disappears once you get up to speed.
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Post by livewire on May 2, 2007 7:06:44 GMT -5
Hey Luciano
Is it your mirrors that vibrate too? just curious. I'm going to Motor Vehicle tomorrow night and i suspect they'll give me an appointment for an inspection. One office told me they wouldn't give me a temp registration to get it there, so that means a trailer..ah well one step at a time, i'll see what they say
Thanks
for the update
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