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Post by scooterdog on Nov 26, 2006 21:40:48 GMT -5
After a nice long ride yesterday, (Bright blue sky and 74 degrees), a few observations about the Majesty; No lightning starts off the line, but the power builds quickly and before you know it, 60 is right there, at about 5000rpm. (Word is that lighter rollers would solve the off-line accel slowness, but I am all about cruisin' , not draggin' ). I'm sure that 80 is very doable, but not something that I would want to do regularly. Fit and finish quite good. Lots of underseat room. Under-dash cubbies very handy. Stays almost cool under seat due to insulation. Instruments fairly easy to read. On board clock and temp way cool. Speedo is off by about 5 mph above 40 or so (seat-of-pants-GPS). Brakes strong and sure. Left-hand parking brake for rear wheel is good idea when parking. Wind noise tolerable. A taller shield would be good, (when you duck below shield level it is eerily quiet), but then you might be looking through instead of over the windscreen. May try laminar lip. Handling is predictable and steady. Not too darty but still can slip around in traffic easily. Weight of scoot helps with the wind, but not too heavy to move around while parking. Easy to put on center-stand. (Aprilia Atlantic was a bear to put up). Seat height and width would not be great for inseam challenged folks. I do OK (5'9", 30" inseam). Short riders will find it a bit tippy footed (thats a word ;D ??). Wide seat is fairly comfy while underway but spreads you out when stopped. Only the front of seat tilts forward. You can tuck in a full helmet easily and still have room for a weeks worth of In summary, when you are ready to move up to road-going maxi-scoot, take a good look at this ride. Maybe find a low-mile easy ridden one and save many hundreds of Washingtons. More observations on routine maintenance and upgrades later. scooterdog
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Post by Admin on Nov 26, 2006 22:24:29 GMT -5
I know what you are talking about but many might not. Remember that guest visitors outnumber members by 2 or 3 to 1 and they may be here to learn about scooters in general and don't have a clue what a Majesty is. Who makes it? What is the engine displacement? I know, but what I don't know and I'm too lazy to look it up....what is the weight? I know what you mean about not real fast off the line. The Kymco X250 is the same way. Once you hit about 40-45 it just wants to rocket and cruise.
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Post by scooterdog on Nov 27, 2006 22:12:30 GMT -5
Right you are, Big Dawg! Sorry for the incomplete review info. Fellow Dawgs and Wannabe ScootDawgs, here is the 411 on the Majesty: It is a Yamaha product, out since 05'. It is almost 400 cc (395) and weighs about 470 lbs., ready to go.Seat height is listed at 29.5" and it is every bit of that. Has fuel injection and front and rear discs (single rotors). Any thing else you need to know, check out the yamaha scooter page and click on the Majesty link.
scooterdog (novice reviewer) out.
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Post by ddillon on Nov 27, 2006 23:16:26 GMT -5
It seems these maxi-scooters are all a bit slow off the line. They shine when you are cruising on the freeway at 50-70mph but I am not impressed with the off-the-line acceleration. Even the Burgman 400 I tested was not as fast off-the-line as I thought it would be but it gains speed quickly and cruises nicely. This is probably due to the added weight of the maxi-scooter style but I though the added cc's would make up for the extra weight and then some but I guess not. I am curious to see what the lighter variator weights do for the acceleration on the X250. I know the Reflex's acceleration can be improved noticeably by removing 3 of the 6 weights.
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Post by Admin on Nov 28, 2006 15:17:09 GMT -5
Removing 3 of the 6 weights is taking it too far. I can tell you that when I recvd the Xc250 from MRP, they had been jacking with the weights and had 6 15gr weights in it. Stock is 20gr. It was red-lining at 40-45 mph. I got the stock variator and weights back in and now it's running pretty nicely. Like the other maxis, it's slow off the line but picks up fast. The 15 gr weights were way too light. My first shot at it will be with 17 or 18 gr. I don't think it'll get a lot of improvement but I expect some. It's that zero to 20 range where it's slow.
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Post by ddillon on Nov 28, 2006 16:52:00 GMT -5
Removing 3 of the 6 weights is taking it too far.
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Post by Jacine on Nov 28, 2006 18:53:58 GMT -5
The reflex weights are two sets of 3 one set of brown and one black, the black are the heavier. Removing the 3 brown is referred to as the Koehler modification to increase accelleration. Top end drops by 2 - 5 miles per hour depending on other environmentals. The purpose of the 3 brown weights was to retard accelleration and to come into EPA specs. Those that have done the Koehler mod (Honda Reflex only) have liked it but it doesn't necessarily apply to reflex clones or other variators.
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Post by robbovius on Nov 30, 2006 14:10:19 GMT -5
Mallosi sells a variator and weights for the Yami Maj, which bumps 0-60 mph down by about 2 seconds (from a bit over 10 to mid-8s) Polini sells one too. if you want to know more, much more, about the yamaha majesty, got to www.majestyusa.comThe Maj is one of the scoots on my short list for next spring.
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Post by dwestmodesto on Dec 2, 2006 19:24:03 GMT -5
I sat on the Magesty a couple weeks ago at my local dealer. My knees hit the handlebars. I am a big guy, 6'2" and about 300lbs. I sat on the Morpheous next to it, it had much more space, and looked even cooler. Now if I just had money to buy another scooter...lol. Dave After a nice long ride yesterday, (Bright blue sky and 74 degrees), a few observations about the Majesty; No lightning starts off the line, but the power builds quickly and before you know it, 60 is right there, at about 5000rpm. (Word is that lighter rollers would solve the off-line accel slowness, but I am all about cruisin' , not draggin' ). I'm sure that 80 is very doable, but not something that I would want to do regularly. Fit and finish quite good. Lots of underseat room. Under-dash cubbies very handy. Stays almost cool under seat due to insulation. Instruments fairly easy to read. On board clock and temp way cool. Speedo is off by about 5 mph above 40 or so (seat-of-pants-GPS). Brakes strong and sure. Left-hand parking brake for rear wheel is good idea when parking. Wind noise tolerable. A taller shield would be good, (when you duck below shield level it is eerily quiet), but then you might be looking through instead of over the windscreen. May try laminar lip. Handling is predictable and steady. Not too darty but still can slip around in traffic easily. Weight of scoot helps with the wind, but not too heavy to move around while parking. Easy to put on center-stand. (Aprilia Atlantic was a bear to put up). Seat height and width would not be great for inseam challenged folks. I do OK (5'9", 30" inseam). Short riders will find it a bit tippy footed (thats a word ;D ??). Wide seat is fairly comfy while underway but spreads you out when stopped. Only the front of seat tilts forward. You can tuck in a full helmet easily and still have room for a weeks worth of In summary, when you are ready to move up to road-going maxi-scoot, take a good look at this ride. Maybe find a low-mile easy ridden one and save many hundreds of Washingtons. More observations on routine maintenance and upgrades later. scooterdog
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Post by Red Herring on Dec 28, 2006 10:11:32 GMT -5
I have an 05 Maj, and as someone mentioned, swapping out the rollers with some lighter ones makes a dramatic difference.
My 0-60 is now in the low 7 seconds, a drop of ~ 3 seconds from stock. Thats with a paltry $35 upgrade. The stock rollers are 15g, I have replaced 4 with 10g, for a total of 12.5 grams. Malossi makes sets of 8 from 10-15 gram. The Malossi Variator is nice, spendy but nice, and will help keep the revs down at the top end. It uses a set of 12g rollers.
With the lighter rollers, I run about 200 rpm over stock at cruising, and find that I actually get better fuel mileage around town, and top speed is unaffected at ~160km/h.
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