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Post by stu on Nov 6, 2006 10:41:18 GMT -5
New guy again with a question. I am seriously considering a scooter at this point, but I'm not 100% sure of the direction to take. I can buy a 250 Kymco or daelim, but my investment is high and that makes me a little nervous. I can buy a 250 chinese, but have we seen an improvement in reliability. I can buy a 150 chinese, Daelim or Kymco, but are there any that will sustain 60mph reliably? I need to use it to go to a few different destinations: 1. work 1/2 mile away-cake. 2. Horse farm 20 miles 5 of which are on 55mph road, maybe not cake. 3. Church 12 miles away, can cut through city which would keep me on 45 mph roads, or take highway. Reliability is important to me, because at some point I would like to be able to do some light (3hrs at 60mph) touring to see family. I have no powered 2 wheel experience whatsoever, so i'll be getting a license as well. My friends all want me to get a motorcycle, but I'm not so sure I want to do that just yet. I've seen the scoot that cbxman is advertising and it looks good, but I'm going to need to finance part of the purchase. Anyway these are the thoughts rolling around in my head and I know that the final decision is mine, but if you were me, or when your were me what did you do? Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Post by Jacine on Nov 6, 2006 10:50:33 GMT -5
If you're looking at a 250 then you probably won't be happy with a 150. For Chinese, the CFmoto line, sold under various badges, is quite reliable and excellent quality. The Kymco Xciting 250 is also a good machine. Daelim has been around a while but not too many people have one. They are very popular in England and no real complaints.
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Post by Dennis D on Nov 6, 2006 11:04:01 GMT -5
It sounds like the QLink Pegasus might just meet all your requirements. Here's a link to a recent post in the "General" board by Lee that gives that impression... just in case you missed it. tinyurl.com/yjckfd
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Post by ddillon on Nov 6, 2006 11:04:29 GMT -5
Stu,
What is your level of mechanically ability? If you know how to work on engines and don't mind tinkering then a Chinese scoot may be a good choice for you. For most Chinese 150's 50-55mph seems to be the max you will get out of the box, however this new Pegasis Dawg is reviewing looks like it will do 65-70. The Strada RX150i and RX200HP also seem to be a bit faster than the rest of the Chinese clones. A 250 from Kymco or Daelim will allow you to cruise at 65-70mph all day long with a top-speed of around 80mph (depending on your weights of course). Also do you plan to order online or do you have a local dealer? You cannot go wrong with a Kymco or Daelim if you can afford it. Also check out the Pagasis Dawg is reviewing. It really comes down to your expectations, budget and mechanically ability. I am sure that you will get enough from the members of this forum to help you made an educated decision. Keep us posted on what you decide.
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Post by scooterollie on Nov 6, 2006 11:32:34 GMT -5
stu; Welcome to the DawgPound! Another "Brand" & model you might look into is the Strada SS300. Here is a link to Valley Scooters: www.scootersus.com/Click on the Starda tab at the top and scroll down to the SS300. Give John Dikov a call and ask him about the scoot. There aren't many of these out there - seems the 250 scoots caught most folks attention this past year. John will give a $100 discount to ScootDawgs. His opinion is that this machine is a cut above the Tank/Roketa, etc. brands. The SS300 has a true 12" rear wheel/tire and, in addition to more CCs, has about 4 more HP. If you like the style, it is sharp looking and should be a great cruiser for your needs. While some of the 150s can do up to 55-60 mph, they don't have anything left at that speed. My 250 Roketa Bali cruises nicely at 55-60. Really don't want to do much more than that on this type of scoot. May be a different story on an Xciting 250/500 or a Bergman 400/650. You can get a Tank/Roketa 250 for as little as $1900 to your door if you are willing to take a chance on an internet dealer. If you have read posts here and elsewhere, you know what you can get into there. I did and it has worked out OK but others have not been as lucky.
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Post by Aaron on Nov 6, 2006 15:48:41 GMT -5
Stu another option is a decent used Honda, Suzuki, or Yamaha scoot. Keep in mind though any machine will break.... it's all about maintenance. I think for a first foray into 2 wheels a scooter is an intelligent choice. I fully reccomend a MSF safety course in not required in your state. Wear clothes that cover and protect and a HELMET no matter what!!! There are two types of riders. Those that have felt the harsh caress of the pavement and those who will. Glad you found us..keep up with the questions we're here to help!!
Aaron
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Post by stu on Nov 6, 2006 17:36:20 GMT -5
I am probably going to stop by the Kymco dealer tomorrow before work and see what they've got. The Qlink looks cool, but the nearest dealer is 90 min away, so if it broke getting it fixed under warranty would be a problem. The Dealer that sells Daelim did have the V3 and V5 CFmoto as well and the SS300. The V3 and V5 he's got for $3599. The SS300 is $3999, although he did say that they were about to drop it to $3500. For $500 more I've got the Daelim S2 with a 2 year warranty. I was just trying to figure the most economical way to do this. Oh, ACD the helmet is definitely in.
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Post by Admin on Nov 6, 2006 17:59:58 GMT -5
It sounds like the dealer you have has a lot of options for you. I doubt he will let you test ride each model but at least sit on them because comfort levels vary. Find one that fits your body. Also consider the weight of the scooter and how much you want to fight with it. If your dealer carries cfmoto, he can work on the Pegasus since the Pegasus is made by cfmoto. It's the same as the e-charm. He may have an e-charm in stock for you to look at. Whatever you decide, don't be afraid to spend a little more to get what you want. I've known too many guys who get the cheap one and then end up buying a better one six months later. That's the expensive way to do it.
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Post by gusset on Nov 7, 2006 0:44:42 GMT -5
2 things:
1) I chose a Daelim S2 250. No regrets. Paid more than if I'd have gotten a Chinese scoot, but the reliability IMHO has been worth it (zero issues). You might want to spend another $150 on a large windscreen if you get this scoot. 2) I spent just under $1000 over/above the cost of the scooter on licensing, gear, 300 mile service, and the MSF course. Don't forget to factor extras like that in with your $$$ calcs.
Good luck!
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Post by smalbany on Nov 7, 2006 9:42:41 GMT -5
As usual I will chart a different course.... I recommend that you consider a used Honda Helix (CN250). They have been around for 20 years, proven reliability, and bulletproof with a huge dealer/parts network to support you when something needs attention. They are a great first maxi-scooter because they are relatively easy to ride and very stable in highspeed traffic. You can find one for about $2, 000 by looking on Craigslist, a local dealer or through Ebay. By the way, I too recommend that you complete a motorcycle safety course BEFORE attempting to ride on the road. You only get one chance when riding in high speed traffic. Smalbany
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Post by bigjg on Nov 7, 2006 19:37:14 GMT -5
Try a CFMoto Fashion 250. The quality is as good as any Taiwanese scooter. The unit I sell comes with a top box, theft device, and stereo. I have sold several of these models with zero problems. The pegasus is also a good choice.
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Post by medman1952 on Nov 12, 2006 23:12:23 GMT -5
bigjg
Why don't you put a link to a webpage you might have in your signature so we can check it out.
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