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Post by dishe on Oct 24, 2006 16:00:18 GMT -5
Hey all...
I did some research on SunL brand of scooters, and it appears that a lot of GY6 enthusiasts out there HATE them.
They're made by the same company as many other popular brands (taizhou or something like that), so it should technically be the same quality- I don't know why everyone is complaining so much about this one brand.
It may be that some people just got burned and they're taking it out on the company in those message boards, so I was wondering if anyone on this forum has had any experience with them?
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Post by Admin on Oct 24, 2006 17:16:00 GMT -5
It's not just customers that don't like Sunl, it's dealers too. For the life of me, I can't figure out why people continue to do business with poorly managed companies when there are so many good ones. Save $100 but you end up with a pile of doo doo that you can't get parts for. One importer accused them of stealing his EPA number and sticking it on their scooters.
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Post by dishe on Oct 24, 2006 19:11:55 GMT -5
That's what I heard, and I read that on another forum as well... yet I have a local dealer who uses them, and he seems to be able to get parts. my friend's starter blew after a month of buying the scooter, and the dealer got a new starter and had it fixed within a week!
I don't understand, can't you just use parts from any gy6 scooter? especially ones made by the same chineses company?
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Post by ddillon on Oct 24, 2006 19:35:37 GMT -5
dishe,
You are not going to find many people that have good things to say about SunL. You probably picked the brand with the worst reputation. If you want to take a chance with them because there is a local dealer that carries that brand then that's your decision but do not expect to find many encouraging comments on the boards regarding SunL. Who knows maybe you will get lucky but why take the chance when you have heard soooooo many horror stories? Why not go with a proven brand with a solid reputation?
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Post by Admin on Oct 24, 2006 20:25:54 GMT -5
My point exactly. I visited the Sunl booth at the Expo last year and couldn't wait to get out. And, no, not all GY6 scooters use the same parts. A lot of them are the same but not all. Order a CDI for one GY6 and it may not work on another. We don't mean to beat up on you but there are other options that get so much better reviews.
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Post by dishe on Oct 24, 2006 22:10:25 GMT -5
dishe, You are not going to find many people that have good things to say about SunL. You probably picked the brand with the worst reputation. If you want to take a chance with them because there is a local dealer that carries that brand then that's your decision but do not expect to find many encouraging comments on the boards regarding SunL. Who knows maybe you will get lucky but why take the chance when you have heard soooooo many horror stories? Why not go with a proven brand with a solid reputation? Well, you basically summed it up there when you said "because there is a local dealer that carries that brand". My options, as I see them, are to get one shipped off a truck and assemble it myself, or buy from a dealer that offers a warantee and service if something goes wrong. Sunl may have a bad rap, so all things being equal I'd choose against them. However, since I have a local dealer who IS trustworthy, and seems to have parts, and offers me a ready to ride scooter with his own warrantee, what difference does it make if sunl happens to be what he carries? yes, I could travel a little farther and find another dealer who carrier a more reputable brand, but I like that if something goes wrong I can bring it local. Plus, I know him a little bit outside his store, so I'd rather buy from him than a total stranger. so, now that you know WHY I'm interested, back to my original question: Aside from the posts on another forum, has anyone had any personal negative stories from sunl? |
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Post by lee82 on Oct 28, 2006 15:44:02 GMT -5
I bought my SunL Adventure from a local dealer in April of this year. I now have 2500 miles on the scoot and have had one minor problem. The vavuum valve that closes to stop the gas flow when the engine is turned off decided to shut off the gas flow while I was riding. I removed the input hose to the valve and connected it to the fuel filter and rode on. I have not had to use the dealer for maintence or repair to date, but I keep in touch with him and feel certain that he would be there if I needed help.
Make sure that he preps the scoot before delivery.
I have enjoyed my scoot a great deal and I think that some of the SunL bashing may be overreaction to expectations not being fully met.
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Post by Admin on Oct 28, 2006 15:53:14 GMT -5
I bought my SunL Adventure from a local dealer in April of this year. I now have 2500 miles on the scoot and have had one minor problem. The vavuum valve that closes to stop the gas flow when the engine is turned off decided to shut off the gas flow while I was riding. I removed the input hose to the valve and connected it to the fuel filter and rode on. I have not had to use the dealer for maintence or repair to date, but I keep in touch with him and feel certain that he would be there if I needed help. Make sure that he preps the scoot before delivery. I have enjoyed my scoot a great deal and I think that some of the SunL bashing may be overreaction to expectations not being fully met. Well, for sure we don't want to start getting like some of the big board where bashing is a way of life and it's easy to forget that when you start bashing a company or a scooter, it can be insulting to people who own that brand and are quite happy with it. I didn't mean to offend. I don't have a high opinion of the Company or the way it's run but I'll ride with a Sunl owner any day. |
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Post by medman1952 on Oct 28, 2006 18:22:36 GMT -5
Sometimes you have to buy what you can afford, like all purchases you have to consider some factors like;
1. is this a recreational or occupational purchase.
2. how much will I save by getting the cheapest one.
3. is the dealer stable or might he be gone in a few months.
4. can I fix it if the dealer does close up.
5. can I really afford to buy it.
if you depend on this scooter to get you to work, would your boss get ticked off if it breaks down and you are late one day, then have no transportation for a couple weeks?
if you think it would be fun to own a scooter for a ride on your day off or after work, then buy anything you like and see how it works out. If it works out great if it does not then you'll just be saying, I wish I had bought that other one.
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Post by sartech on Oct 28, 2006 20:53:21 GMT -5
hi i use to have one till lee talked about the epa stickers they stole.
off loaded it as soon as i could and got a tank. loads beater then the suckL.
you need to get that buyers guide think lee has that would help ya out a lot. wish i would have got it before lookin for a scooter.
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Post by Admin on Oct 29, 2006 12:39:32 GMT -5
It's about time for me to update that guide. I've gathered a lot of new info since I wrote that. Glad it helped you.
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Post by sartech on Oct 29, 2006 19:11:36 GMT -5
is there a way to get a list of good scooters and bad scooters to help out the new buyers and make it a sticky for this part of the fourm
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Post by surfborg on Nov 17, 2006 22:48:07 GMT -5
is there a way to get a list of good scooters and bad scooters to help out the new buyers and make it a sticky for this part of the fourm Good scooters and bad scooters are like good cars and bad cars. I could have a Ford and never have a problem with the car or the dealer and my neighbor have the same model and have all sorts of issues with the car and just hate the dealer. It's all personal. I bought a Wildfire because it was the only thing around. I've had some problems, but others that have bought them from the same dealer are just pleased as punch. I'm strange thou. I could have a shelf full of perfectly good faucets and I would buy the ONE on the shelf that didn't work. Good Luck man.  |
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Post by sugarbear on Oct 12, 2007 23:36:40 GMT -5
My motorcycle mechanic that works on all kinds of scooters.Says he would like to have more sunL
scooters come more often.He says he makes money repairing them and the wildfire scooters.Right
now he's pist off on Wildfire and Sunl because there not sending him the parts he needs to work on them..
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Post by lok222 on Dec 10, 2007 14:49:47 GMT -5
For what it's worth.. I love SunL
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Post by rerun2 on Dec 10, 2007 15:23:30 GMT -5
SurfBorg is right, I had a 1987 Cadillac that was the worst car I have ever owned, in 6 months the thing was in the shop constantly, the dealer finally offered to take the car back because of the loaner Caddys he had to keep me in while the service dept. worked on that piece of junk. Others I know had the identical model and loved them dearly. Dawg and the others are more than justified in their opinions, the poor brand is tagged as being a bad deal because of very real experiences, bad dealers, no parts, poor quality, etc.
All in all, there is a lot to say about buying from a local dealer, especially with one that backs up his products. Depending on how you intend to use the scooter probably should be the deciding factor just as medman alludes. Again, if you are buying a SunL, do make it a point to have the thing really prepped thoroughly, to include the replacement of the 'known' bad or questionable parts. I have no personal experience with SunL, so I can only speak from what others have experienced and said. No matter what you decide to buy, do enjoy the ride, and don't hesitate to visit here and keep it all friendly!! It is all ABOUT THE RIDE, as is often said!!
Good fortune to you!!
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