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Post by mgreenfield on Jul 25, 2006 20:14:55 GMT -5
I also have 385cc Suzuki Burgman AN400. Curb weight about 410lbs. Fuel injected. Single cylinder, but 4 valves. 33hp. It'll cruise all day long at 70+mph, with some left for passing, & I highly recommend the machine, ...though expensive.
I've "played chase" with a Kymco GrandVista250. O-50mph it's absolutely equal in acceleration, and I'd expect the Kymco to cruise easily at 60+. If I was out shopping for a scoot again, it would be a Kymco B&W250. Good acceleration, good quality, fast enough, and $1,000+ less than a Burger.
In any event, there's a huge difference between the "feel" of a little air-cooled 150cc scoot, and a multivalve liquid-cooled 250cc+ unit. Once you've been to 250cc+, you can't go back. ;D
No idea how the Lifan-Yamaha 250cc-powered Chinese scoots stack up against the Kymco. If they're close at all, they're plenty fast for most of us. Maybe somebody has had a chance to "play chase", and can report back to us.
Regarding "bow waves" from 80,000lb semi-trucks. No matter what you're riding, you'll feel these. It's just a matter of getting used to them, and "riding them out" without over-correcting.
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Post by professorguitar on Jul 28, 2006 13:05:43 GMT -5
Just went to the better buisness bureau site... they got a unsastifactory rating... if you were wondering
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Post by professorguitar on Jul 28, 2006 13:08:32 GMT -5
the BBB report was for Extreme-scooters.com in Georgia (sorry)
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Post by surfborg on Jul 28, 2006 20:01:01 GMT -5
Legally 150cc and above are legal on the Interstates here in Illinois. I wouldn't even think of getting mine on the "Big Road" The posted minimum speed limit is 45 mph and the posted max is 65. Can you imagine doing 50/55 mph as a big rig comes flying down the road at 70 (nevermind that his speed limit is 55, but I didn't say that)? You'd have to have 'nads of steel.
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Post by scooterollie on Jul 28, 2006 21:47:14 GMT -5
surfborg; Given the naiveté and indestructibility of youth, I can imagine that! About 45 years ago (Oh God, it couldn't be that long ago!) I had a Cushman motor scooter. It would do 45 down hill with a gail-force wind behind you. One day I decided to head for Wash. D.C. on the B.W. Expressway - then posted at 60 mph. That was an experience! Got buzzed by a Greyhound bus - he pulled over into the left lane just far enough to miss me as he passed me, and by two motorcycles - one on each side of me at about what seemed like 100 mph. Needless to say, I didn't stay on that highway very long.
BTW, as crude as some think they are, our Chinese scoots are like BMWs compared to that Cushman!
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Post by lewtwo on Jul 28, 2006 23:30:46 GMT -5
>> Given the naiveté and indestructibility of youth, I can imagine that! About 45 years ago (Oh God, it couldn't be that long ago!) << Yep . . . time flys when you gotta work for a living.
Back in the day I had a Honda S65. I distinctly remember that thing would clock just under 60mph and I had it all over three counties without regard to the type of road (no insterstates close by). Guy up the street had an s90 that would hit 75mph and the 50cc bikes all hit 50mph (note: all the above were 4 strokes).
So why is it that today the 150cc scooters can barley hit 60mph ??
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Post by surfborg on Jul 29, 2006 7:38:22 GMT -5
We all got fatter?
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Post by lewtwo on Jul 29, 2006 8:26:33 GMT -5
>> We all got fatter? << Hard to believe 30 pounds would make that much difference. I think the bikes may have gotten fatter.
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Post by Aaron on Jul 29, 2006 9:24:21 GMT -5
That and they choked them to death with emissions regulations.
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Post by allengrota on Jul 29, 2006 11:33:48 GMT -5
Can you say "CVT"?
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Post by Aaron on Jul 29, 2006 12:11:11 GMT -5
Very true the old Honda's had auto clutch manual transmissions with very little if any slippage at speed.
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Post by slowfire on Jul 29, 2006 21:15:45 GMT -5
Kabala; slowfire here. Twigster is right on with his post. I have bought a tank TT250 and have had no serioues issues with it . Its true that riden 65 feels like your on a bar stool at speed. The sensation is geting better with experence. But the trucks going by is unerving to me.Although the bike has speed and torque too handle the hills I find im not comfortable going that fast yet.I like too ride about 45 to 55 most of the time.I got mine form scooterdemand.com took about 2.5 wks too get it. I did get the bike I ordered at the price posted but got I felt very poor customer no sevice. I would suggest buying direct form tankmotorsports.com There about $2300. slowfire
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 29, 2006 23:59:50 GMT -5
Slowfire, the web site tankmotorsports.com IS NOT Tank. This is just another dealer, but they make no effort to disclose that they are not Tank. Tank does not sell direct to consumers, but their web site is www.tank-sports.com/us/ . The web site you quoted represents a very deceptive practice, and while the company may well be reputable, I can't patronize any business that uses intentionally deceptive practices like this. Stan Kabala; slowfire here. Twigster is right on with his post. I have bought a tank TT250 and have had no serioues issues with it . Its true that riden 65 feels like your on a bar stool at speed. The sensation is geting better with experence. But the trucks going by is unerving to me.Although the bike has speed and torque too handle the hills I find im not comfortable going that fast yet.I like too ride about 45 to 55 most of the time.I got mine form scooterdemand.com took about 2.5 wks too get it. I did get the bike I ordered at the price posted but got I felt very poor customer no sevice. I would suggest buying direct form tankmotorsports.com There about $2300. slowfire
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Post by lewtwo on Jul 31, 2006 2:35:47 GMT -5
Very true the old Honda's had auto clutch manual transmissions with very little if any slippage at speed. Same clutch that was on the all manual bikes. Difference was an eccentric on the end of the shaft for the shifter. When you pressed down on shift lever it engaged the clutch. We used to pop wheelies on 50cc cubs by holding the shift lever down and reving the engine before we released shifter. Of course that sometimes left you with coffee grounds instead of gears.
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Post by scootertrash06 on Aug 17, 2006 17:01:41 GMT -5
Did anyone notice on the Extreme Scooter website that the exhaust in one pic is on the left and it is on the right in the other. What gives, never seen a chinese GY6 scoot with exhaust on the left side.
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Post by mgreenfield on Aug 17, 2006 19:28:15 GMT -5
Lots of websites flip-flop the images they have on file to make the scoots "point the right way" in their webpages, etc. They erase any "backward writing" on the scoot, but leave the exhaust "on the left" in most of them.
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Post by somecallmetim on Aug 20, 2006 19:55:27 GMT -5
A tach is nice to have for tuning things in, but be aware that many of the Sendec tachs (like the one I got on Ebay) are designed for engines with distributors that fire only on the power stroke. When used on a GY6 or other engine that fires every time the piston comes up (waste spark), it will read twice the actual RPM. I paid under $20 for mine and was half-expecting this anyway, so it doesn't bother me. I just cut the readings in half. The Sendec site list quite a few different models of tach, but Ebay sellers don't always tell you (or even know) which one they are selling.
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Post by drewbug22 on Jun 3, 2008 22:53:48 GMT -5
twigster..is that a skybreeze scoot in your picture?
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Post by griff10 on Jun 4, 2008 3:27:57 GMT -5
Did you happen to notice that the post you were replying to is two years old?
Bill H.
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Post by drewbug22 on Jun 4, 2008 7:45:03 GMT -5
oh lol...no i didnt...i like never pay attention to the dates on here
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Post by ZootScootRiot on Jun 6, 2008 7:35:42 GMT -5
Yeah but sometimes it's fun to read the old posts. Especially when sometimes the same questions are being re-asked again and again.
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Post by lankeeyankee on Aug 13, 2008 20:17:11 GMT -5
I agree!! I would sell your 150CC on Craigslist and make about 500.00 than what you paid for it, and go buy a 250CC I thought the main purpose of a scooter is relaibilty and great gas mileage? a 250 will do about 68MPH avg OEM and get the good gas mileage. By the time you build up your 150 you could have spent the extra for the 250.
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