Scooter appearance

[stevie37]

[stevie37]

From the front

[stevie37]

The pics are back!!!

[Aaron]

Nice ride Stevie!

Aaron

[stevie37]

Thanks Aaron, More pics will be added soon

[cathouse]

stevie37 said:

No, It's a Viva Phantom R4I

I typed in Vive scooters and found out it's made by Baron, real nice ride.

[Dennis D]

I think that Viva may be using Baron's EPA tags on some models, which could be what resulted in that "Viva by Baron" ad by someone selling a used Viva on Craigslist, but I'm quite sure Viva isn't built by Baron.... check out the huge price difference(Half!). Check out Ebay, loads of Vivas sold by dropshippers, and they're not getting them from Baron. I've heard that there are a number of other companies uisng Barons EPA/DOT tags, and I doubt it's all with Baron's consent. I'm finding out that lots of cheap chinese scoots are using Vento, Baron, or Strada Epa and DOT tags. I'm not sure how that works, but it it doesn't make most of them Barons, Ventos, or Stradas, though I'm pretty sure that some of the mainland chinese factories are making up extra scoots that are knockoffs, or even identical and selling them to importers, often illegally, who usually badge them as their own.

NDPowersports is selling scoots badged as Yamatis with EPA/DOT tags that say PSF with Strada Model numbers on them, and they're not PSF(who owns the rights to the Yamati name) scoots.... so just WTF is going on I'm not sure. I have a RX150TE that the people at PSF wouldn't say wasn't an actual Strada when I called them(the story I got is that it rolled off the same assembly line), but they did say it was being imported and sold illegally. As far as I know the dealer I got it from knew nothing about the dubious nature of it's origin(they didn't even know who PSF was), but I know that StateSide Powersports, the importer, knew what was going on, because I talked to them, too. As near as I can tell the MCO was bogus, as PSF said it was, but Indiana titled it anyway. At the time I bought it, as far as I knew, if they were selling Stradas, they had to be a Strada dealer, but found out after the fact that PSF didn't even know who the dealer was that sold it to me, so I had no warranty of any kind from PSF. I did get the dealer to fix a few things that were broke when I got it. It was equipped correctly for a RX150TE in every detail, including the QJ engine, gas rear shocks, and tach. My conclusion is that dealing with the chinese can be pretty treacherous for companies like Baron and PSF. There are plenty of shady importers over here who are only looking for a quick buck, and as long as states like Indiana are willing to issue titles for scooter brands that aren't approved and legal according to the NHTSA/DOT database, it's buyer beware, even more so for those unfortunates who live in states that are on top of things and won't title them, so they're stuck! For companies like PSF and Baron, many of the chinese companies they're dealing with will keep sticking it to them as long as many of the States just look the other way, and DOT doesn't have enough people in enforcement to really do much about illegal scooter importing and sales. If I knew then what I do now, I'd have happily paid $300 more for a guaranteed legal scoot with a decent warranty, even if only a 6 months parts warranty. I'd rather have paid my money to help support a company that provides support for its' customers and operates above board.

[Admin]

You used a lot of words but you said it correctly. This board is friendly to Chinese owners and Chinese bikes......but I always try to steer folks to honest dealers and honest bikes. I'm going out on a limb here but at least 75% of Chinese bikes are crap and at least 75% of dealers who sell them are out for a quick $. Sorting fact from fiction isn't easy but that's what the entire ScootDawg thing is about. Please, don't experiment with dealers and little known brands just because you think it will save you a hundred bucks. The better bikes and better dealers will cost more.....duh!

[Dennis D]

I've been accused of using a lot of words to explain something more than once. ;D But a few folks giving detailed descriptions of their experiences, supports the blanket statements that other folks "go out on a limb" to make!

[I-RoQ]

I've heard that polish is better than wax for hot settings (Like TX)...true?

[scooterollie]

Last year I bought some spray Nano wax (Eagle 1) on a special 2 for 1 deal. Have used it since. Like it because it is watery and easy to use. Great on the plastic windshields. Takes care of bug touch-ups fast. No residue. Just bought some Eagle 1 Nano leather & vinyl protectant for the seat and unpainted body panels.

[madwolf]

I got stuck riding while there was a massive thunder storm........ that did a good job of cleaning my scoot off. Had to sit a bit under a over hang because the wind was too much.... I decided that only after a large tree limb hit me while it was moving horizontally at me.

[tscoot]

Sept 7, 2006 20:47:20 GMT -5 Scootertrash said:

TWO SCOOTERTRASHES ROCK ON!!!!! NICE NAME BRO!!



Ok something i can comment on that i know
I was a painter in a bodyshop befor i started painting planes.

The spray on wax you speak of IS NOT A WAX AT ALL. It is for detailing. The stuff i used at the bodyshop is Wizards Mist-N-Shine. After the car was painted wet sanded and buffed. I would spray the car down with it and all the compound would come right off and it would make the paint really glossy and slick to the touch. If the car was a dark colored car it would have no swirl marks at all. I have even put this stuff on in the sun on a hot car and it wasn't even a problem.

But it should not replace a good wax of your choice. It should be use in between waxes NOT as a wax. Lots of other things that it can be used on also.

THIS IS STRAIGHT FROM THEIR WEBSITE IN THE Q&A AREA

MIST-N-SHINE™ PROFESSIONAL DETAILER

MIST-N-SHINE Professional Detailer is WIZARDS’ best selling product. This highly regarded detailer is fast, fun and easy to use on all types of paint, glass, chrome or any hard surface. It’s so easy to use; just spray it on and wipe it off. It adds a show winning gloss and slickness to almost any type of paint.

You can use MIST-N-SHINE regularly to “quick dust” and give your vehicle that just waxed slippery feel and “wet look”, without scratching, streaking or smearing.

Because it contains no wax or abrasives it will never leave a telltale sign or white residue around emblems or moldings. That’s one reason why street rodders and bikers really love the product.

Q: If the MIST-N-SHINE does all that, why would I want to use the SHINE MASTER?

A: Even though the MIST-N-SHINE is great and will do a lot, you still want to use the SHINE MASTER for its cleaning, polishing and protective qualities. It is recommended to use the polish occasionally for extended durability and protection.

Remember; if your paint is rough or faded the MIST-N-SHINE isn’t going to do much unless you make it smooth first.

Q: So you’re saying that the MIST-N-SHINE doesn’t have any protective qualities?

A: It wasn’t designed for protection; however, you can expect it to make it through a couple washes. A good example is using it on your windshield. It’s so slick, the rain rolls right off the glass.

Q: I know it works great for removing dust, what else will it take off?

A: MIST-N-SHINE will safely remove dust, bugs, mild road grime, fingerprints and even some light water spotting. It’s an anti-static gloss enhancer and is great for spot washing, or to use as a waterless wash.

Q: You mean I can use this instead of washing my car?

A: You’ll be amazed at how much it can do, but if your vehicle is extremely dirty or muddy you should always wash it first. MIST-N-SHINE will work great for dust and road grime. And it really works well in between wash jobs, or right after washing to give it that just polished look.

Q: You mentioned that it can be used on any hard surface; is there anything that I shouldn’t use it on?

A: This special formula is safe for all types of paint, clear coat, metals, glass, plastic and rubber trim. You can use it to dust off most anything; however, it may not shine on things like your dash, seats or tires. Obviously, you shouldn’t get it on your cloth seats or carpeting. It’s just not designed for that.

Q: I’ve heard that a lot of body shops use the MIST-N-SHINE. Why is that?

A: It’s fast, it’s easy to use and it works. Literally thousands of shops use it as a finishing step after buffing, and before the vehicle is delivered. The product contains no wax, petroleum solvents or silicone, and is not only used, but also recommended by some of the top restoration experts in the country.

Before delivery, the MIST-N-SHINE can really be a time saver. Many times a shop will have a vehicle ready for customer pickup; and if that pickup time is delayed, the car can get full of dust from sitting around the shop. In a case like that the car can be wiped down in just a couple minutes and the customer is really happy.

That’s also a great time to demonstrate the MIST-N-SHINE to the customer, and sell them a bottle, so they can maintain their finish and keep your work looking good.

yes this stuff is great used it on my black harley it was awesome also used miracle wash it works well also