I think I found my limit:

[payneib]

I'm starting my first civilian job next Monday, and I took the scoot for a round trip of the daily commute, to make sure I know the way and see how long it takes.

I set off at 0930 and got back 1145, the temperature here is hovering just above freezing, with stacks of wind.

By the time I got off, I couldn't move! My hands and knees were frozen and putting the thing in the garage was a struggle!

The good news: it's a 90 mile round trip and I still had a litre of fuel left when I got back into town! Massive MPG on this thing.

[4getful2]

Sounds like you may need another layer of clothing.
Your body will become accustomed to the commute.
On a lighter note, CHEER UP < SPRINGTIME IS COMING, SO IN A MONTH OR TWO , WE WON'T BE ABLE TO PRY YOU OFF OF THE DANG THING!
GOOD LUCK ON YOUR NEW JOB.

[payneib]

Thanks man, I'm really looking forward to it. I had training socks, arctic socks and work boots on my feet. Jeans and waterproof over trousers on my legs. A Marino wool long sleeve base layer, t-shirt, scarf, sheepskin leather bomber jacket, and a hi-vis over jacket on my body. Oxford bone dry motorcycle gloves and a full face helmet. AND I WAS STILL COLD!!! Lol. Anymore layers and I doubt the scooter would take the weight. Lol

On the upside: the cheek pieces in my helmet are nice and comfortable. I can just rest my face into them and lean my head on the wind, very comfortable! Lol

[inuyasha]

Hi Ian
Check out these if the cold temperatures while riding becomes a bit bothersome
gerbing.com/
Ive used them while in the military and they work fantastically at keeping you warm and dry
Take care and ride safely dear friend
Yours Hank

[payneib]

Thanks Hank, your links have been most useful today, I've just been reading up on those home made saddle bags. Hopefully the heated kit won't be required. I was only cold on the way back, going into a head wind. I used a quarter of a tank on the way there, and the rest the way back! It was really blowing! I've not taken my kit down the surplus store yet either, so I might have to dig out my softy arctic trousers and jacket: they kept me warm doing upper deck sentry in Oslo, they should work on a scoot! Lol

[shalomdawg]

i second the motion hank. your links and research to answer questions is very much appreciated

lotsa miles and smiles to ya

[inuyasha]

Hi
Thank you my friends, it was a pleasure to do so
Take care and ride safely
Yours Hank

[chindog]

You might want to check out the Freeze Out base layer clothing at Cycle Gear if you don't want to go electric. The Freeze Out garments are thin, but really do hold in the heat.

motor.cyclegear.com/lp/&modaf=a:brand:freezeout

They are having a sale on it during February. I've got the pants, and it really does keep me warm in cold temps. They keep me a lot warmer than when I was wearing 2 pair of thermal underwear under my pants. I also have the glove liners, and although they help, my fingers still get cold, but not so much that it's intolerable.

Oh, btw I have a 70 mile round trip to work, so I'm usually on the road about 50 minutes each way.

[wutzthedeal]

I use the rule of 3s, which is a little thing I made up that works. Three pairs gloves, socks, and pants. Three shirts, three jackets. Throw in a scarf and/or balaclava and a wind guard to keep the wind down inside your helmet and you're good. Pick good materials (cotton is not ideal). Haven't had a problem all winter, rain or shine, down to 22 degrees.

[Terri "Bunny" Lee]

if your getting that cold
put on wet weather gear.
it will block 99% of the wind
you can use rubber bands, or something like
to keep the wind out of pants.
Gloves, try mittens, if legal where your at