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Post by Makarov on Feb 5, 2013 16:16:56 GMT -5
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Post by scootnwinn on Feb 5, 2013 16:22:58 GMT -5
That is awesome thanks for sharing I wish I was there too. We should have a scootdawg rally and lets see who really has a 150 that does 60+ mph I bet we have guys that can get close to that 74 mph on here...
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Post by inuyasha on Feb 5, 2013 17:37:46 GMT -5
Hi Good read Thanks for posting the link to it Califorina Scooters are awesome One day im going out there and coming home back with one Either that or will try and find an Original Mustang that was the inspiration for them www.mmcoa.org/Take care and ride safely Yours Hank |
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Post by inuyasha on Feb 5, 2013 17:43:52 GMT -5
That is awesome thanks for sharing I wish I was there too. We should have a scootdawg rally and lets see who really has a 150 that does 60+ mph I bet we have guys that can get close to that 74 mph on here... Hi Rob April is not a 150 but she has hit an all time high of 63  so far in stock form, i have removed all restrictions and reflashed the ECU Just wait until i start to mod her for more performance  ;D Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank Attachments:
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Post by prodigit on Feb 5, 2013 17:49:06 GMT -5
Nice,
I think the stock TaoTao 150 scooters are all tuned to go 60+MPH. According to the taotao mechanic, they all take 93 oct fuel.
Occasionally they can reach 65MPH.
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Post by MEAN_MOTOFINO on Feb 5, 2013 18:17:40 GMT -5
Im hitting 60 right now with stock variator and gears with a 13" rear wheel... looking to change that  I could not imagine a "STOCK" 150 going 60mph(gps not chinometer) being as mine is light as hell (120 lbs) and high compression and it still takes quite a distance to get to that top speed. |
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Post by prodigit on Feb 5, 2013 19:03:02 GMT -5
TaoTaos are known to run lean, and need premium fuel.
Heck, I go 50MPH on my virtually 'stock' ATM50 (50cc).
More than likely when you equip them with regular fuel you won't get that performance edge out of them.
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Post by Makarov on Feb 5, 2013 21:25:12 GMT -5
74 mph is hard to fathom on a 150.. ( but I weigh 200)
The rider only weighed 105 lbs. The question remains---was there a tail wind---was the run going down hill or on level ground---Either way still a great run and lots of fun for sure.
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Post by inuyasha on Feb 5, 2013 21:29:34 GMT -5
74 mph is hard to fathom on a 150.. ( but I weigh 200) The rider only weighed 105 lbs. The question remains---was there a tail wind---was the run going down hill or on level ground---Either way still a great run and lots of fun for sure. Hi The scoot in question is not typical of most scoots they use a 5 speed manual transmission and they did do some modding to the engine for more performance They modified one of these btw californiascooterco.com/So i can easily see that one hitting those speeds Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank |
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Post by Makarov on Feb 5, 2013 21:32:54 GMT -5
Hi Good read Thanks for posting the link to it Califorina Scooters are awesome One day im going out there and coming home back with one Either that or will try and find an Original Mustang that was the inspiration for them www.mmcoa.org/Take care and ride safely Yours Hank Great video Hank. Thanks for sharing and especially thanks for serving. |
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Post by inuyasha on Feb 5, 2013 21:35:27 GMT -5
Hi Good read Thanks for posting the link to it Califorina Scooters are awesome One day im going out there and coming home back with one Either that or will try and find an Original Mustang that was the inspiration for them www.mmcoa.org/Take care and ride safely Yours Hank Great video Hank. Thanks for sharing and especially thanks for serving. Hi Your most welcome and thank you very much, its most appreciated Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank |
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Post by skuttadawg on Feb 5, 2013 22:28:06 GMT -5
I can do that with a passenger and its stock . The only mods are NGK iridium and 12 g Dr Pulley sliders and Shinko tires . I got a warning ticket for doing 72 MPH on a windy night . I can hit around 65 up a steep hill with a passenger as well . EFI does wonders plus it has 16 inch wheels and very well take care of as I mostly cruise at 50 MPH which is a trot with the engine purring
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Post by JR on Feb 6, 2013 7:33:50 GMT -5
Sorry but the grade of fuel will have little to no effect on top end at the most 2MPH and even then doubtful.
Running lean won't help in fact the max HP to RPM curve on these engines is at around 7200 RPM and very little to gain even wide open at 8k RPM but a short lived engine.
The Tao tao's are equipped with the same GY_6 as others, weight, rider weight, altitude, temp. and even tire air pressure all contribute to top end all combined with variator to clutch combinations.
Even with the best conditions and a very light rider 60MPH is what one can look for out of the GY-6 generally, 65MPH maybe, but not typical. Riding it at this speed which is WOT will again result in a short lived engine especially in very hot climates as it is air cooled.
One wants to ride it for the long haul do good PM and ride it at it's peak performance range which is 50 to 55MPH.
Got a Bali 150 bought in 08 that still runs sweet with now over 7k in miles and expect it to last a long time.
JR
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Post by rockynv on Feb 6, 2013 12:29:02 GMT -5
My Lance Vintage would hit 65 on flat ground stock but would not do it for long. A little headwind or up hill grade and the fuel pump would not be able to keep up.
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Post by JR on Feb 6, 2013 13:43:24 GMT -5
Ah the Lance Vintage, sweet little scooter: Hitting 65 and maintaining it is different, like you said slightest wind or hill and the bottom would fall out of the MPH but add a little tail wind for a bit and WHOA NELLY! |
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Post by reynoldston on Feb 6, 2013 17:27:59 GMT -5
My 50cc Honda 35 MPH tops. This is how I ride it most of the time. If you can run better then 65 MPH with a 150 cc you should be able to ride on most expressways. This would mean hours of WOT (wide open Throttle) Is it a lot harder on a 150cc over my 50cc to running it WOT an why? Now if you go up to a 250cc wouldn't be better for expressways. Most of our roads in NY state are 55 mph so I can see a 150 should handle that with ease. The biggest problim I can see running at them speeds how does work in large truck traffic with a light scooter. I also ride a full size motorcycle and find riding in large truck traffic it gets a little scary at times.
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Post by prodigit on Feb 6, 2013 18:36:36 GMT -5
I've been with my TaoTao ATM50 A1 on the freeway, with trucks passing me by at 5-10MPH faster than me, without problems.
The biggest difficulty, which is kinda fun, is side winds. When there's a storm in FL, and sidewinds are reaching speeds of higher than 35MPH (especially when pockets of air hit you, not really when there's a constant airflow), then the scooter goes a little bit from under you.
If the wind comes from the right, you'll have to counter steer, basically lean to the right, and the scooter's tires can deviate as much as 1,5ft left or right from the center line, to compensate for the wind.
But anyway.
As far as premium fuel, it does help, and on the ATM, it gains about 6MPH compared to other fuels; although, I think it has more to do with the fact that the fuel comes from BP, not only because it's premium fuel.
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Post by MEAN_MOTOFINO on Feb 6, 2013 18:45:45 GMT -5
I do not see how premium fuel can help top speed. GY6 in stock form is a relatively low compression engine (under 9.5). Running higher octane then needed is just throwing your money away, the only way you will gain power with higher octane fuel is if it is oxygenated(eg: Race Fuel) but the gain once again is not from the higher octane.
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Post by inuyasha on Feb 6, 2013 18:50:20 GMT -5
My 50cc Honda 35 MPH tops. This is how I ride it most of the time. If you can run better then 65 MPH with a 150 cc you should be able to ride on most expressways. This would mean hours of WOT (wide open Throttle) Is it a lot harder on a 150cc over my 50cc to running it WOT an why? Now if you go up to a 250cc wouldn't be better for expressways. Most of our roads in NY state are 55 mph so I can see a 150 should handle that with ease. The biggest problim I can see running at them speeds how does work in large truck traffic with a light scooter. I also ride a full size motorcycle and find riding in large truck traffic it gets a little scary at times. Hi I share the road with semi's all the time you get used to it after a while, time index 8:28 in this video Take care and ride safely Yours Hank |
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Post by payneib on Feb 6, 2013 19:17:48 GMT -5
I learnt about lorries the other day, riding on "A" roads (single lane each way, 65mph limit, generally through the country side-as a translation).
I thought the "waft" of turbulent air was bad on a push bike when one goes past, but when you're doing 55-60 as well, in the opposite direction......man that hurts!
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Post by scootnwinn on Feb 6, 2013 19:28:01 GMT -5
You learn to anticipate it. It doesn't bother me at all I can feel it coming...
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Post by payneib on Feb 6, 2013 19:40:58 GMT -5
Lol, I know that NOW! Lol
It's the road salt that gets me. I'm riding with a full face helmet at the min, despite wearing glasses and that being a pain in the arse. That little gap you leave under the visor to keep it clear soon feels like a yawning chasm when the salt starts shredding a line across your face through it. By the time I got home, my visor and my glasses were coated in the stuff.
I want to go open face, so I can keep my visor fully down all the time, without it misting up and just need to wipe the crap of the visor which is much easier to do than get a hand inside your lid at speed to smear it off your glasses!
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so far in stock form, i have removed all restrictions and reflashed the ECU
;D 
