sgtp
Junior Dawg
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Post by sgtp on Jan 29, 2013 21:15:27 GMT -5
Hi all, I had a regulator/rectifier die on me recently. Heres what happened: -headlights/turn signals/brake lights stopped working -fuse by battery popped, and replacement fuses would pop immediately I got a generic replacement online, it was the same shape, pin-out, and it was cheap. Heres what happened next: -everything worked again, and I replaced the battery at the same time as it was on its way out -a few weeks later, my lowbeams die on me. Im not sure yet if they burned out or what, but the highs still work. -a few weeks after that, I have the same issue: no turn signals, headlights, starter does not work, etc. The only difference now is that the fuse has not popped. (and the battery does have power, but I dont have a multimeter to test it) So, I am left wondering if I got a dud R/R, or do I have other issues I need to sort out? And to think I just perfected the jetting/tune on this thing
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Post by snugglebunny on Jan 29, 2013 21:36:56 GMT -5
not to sound rude but ya, you get what you buy
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sgtp
Junior Dawg
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Post by sgtp on Jan 29, 2013 21:52:57 GMT -5
yeah, non taken. The thing is, though, it seems like all pictures of this r/r on websites looks as generic as the last! They all have some random numbers on the side, and all I can conclude is that these numbers show the production run # and year. I have a online store that is somewhat local to me and they have two 4 pin/wire r/r's so I asked if they know if they have any different specs, and all they could say was that their supplyer (read: some rich dude in china) provided the part with two different part numbers. All this does for me is renforce the fact that the scooter business in china is a cottage industry. Pretty frustrating.
I am tempted to just buy another cheapy r/r, because the ones that cost 2-3x as much elsewhere dont look any different in the pictures posted on these sites. *sigh*
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Post by snugglebunny on Jan 29, 2013 21:57:33 GMT -5
here go to this site eshop.mainelyscooters.com/shop/ find what your looking for basically then e mail Greg, he's the owner, and used to be the biggest tech guru on here but life goes on he got married etc etc
but e mail him tell him what you want etc and ask for his opinion he wont sell ya crap, but he wont sell ya gold either
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Post by tortoise on Jan 29, 2013 22:21:55 GMT -5
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Post by EPAhater on Jan 29, 2013 22:50:28 GMT -5
Whole different ball game: The R/R in that thread was for a CF Moto Fashion 250 and is a 3 phase system totally different set up than the 4 pin single phase R/R used on the Sachs scooter. Any readings on R/R's vary from one to another and testing is very unreliable. Plus some stators are grounded and others have a floating ground thus different R/R's. What is needed here is to find out what burning them up? This is a 2 stroker and most likely a 4 pin R/R?
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sgtp
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Post by sgtp on Jan 30, 2013 19:13:40 GMT -5
Yeah, its a 2-stroke with a 4 pin r/r. I did some reading on them last night and it seems like when they fail, one of two things occur: Either send too much power to the battery (blows your fuse) or dont send enough power to keep your battery charged. I guess I have now experienced both failures as the fuse popped only one of the times.
From what I can gather, and correct me if I am wrong, all 4 pin r/r's are the same in that they will allow 13.8v to your accesories and battery. The differences in 4 pin r/r's might just be the quailty of manufacturing, as well as the heatsink used, because heat is all that kills them, causing some people to mount PC fans on them (other ppl claim larger gage wiring in your harness where its needed makes them never crap out again, still others use silicon grease between the frame and the r/r to help disapate heat).
When my r/r died, I'll admit I was beating on the scoot. I just prefected the tune as stated earlier, and whated to see if it was still cutting out at high rpm's. So, it seems to me that a ton of heat was created by the r/r when converting the extral voltage to heat, and that resulting in it death. I have my eye on a 4 pin r/r that have a huge heatsink compared to the stock one, and think I will give that a try. I do think I need to get that multimeter though, because I am worried about my stator too, now.
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Post by snugglebunny on Jan 30, 2013 19:21:26 GMT -5
your above my knowledge now lol i just do what my friends here and other forums tell me to do
they talked me thru finding my dead stator/magneto, by 1st teaching me how to use a multimeter, then each wire to test etc etc
but then again im a NON mech type woman lmsao
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