Hey all i am looking to buy a new 260-300cc scooter or possibly a bobber this year but want to deal with a reputable dealer someone who will give me a good deal and if i have a problem will answer the phone. i have had bad luck with the last dealer i delt with. if anyone out there can steer me to a good place to deal with i would appreciate it.
K all im asking for is there any dealers out there that anyone has delt with that has a good experience with. I bought a scooter from Riderswholesale last year and they were the worst i have delt with they lied to me numerous times wouldnt ship my bike till i finally had to resort to having the charges reversed they got off there azzes and shipped it to me i told them i would never deal with them again or even recommend them to anyone. I have about 2500 dollars to spend on a new scoot or im even thinking about a Chinese Bobber like the one here MC_D250RTB 250cc Custom Bobber Motorcycles Street Legal ...any advice would be appreciated.
Most of those custom bobbers are sold in California. They get shipped to warehouses over there. There is not a single place where you can get your bike fixed; or, you got to be very lucky to find a place that fixes these bikes.
Here's my opinion, I had a BMS 260 EFI, now sold. It was a great looking bike, a Suzuki Burgman clone, but inside it was quite a complex bike, with the fuel injection, and stuff... You needed to peel off quite some plastics to get to the important parts, but most of the parts used where quality material parts, and would not rust easily.
With the custom bobbers, there are plenty of metallic parts that will rust in days. So you need to give the whole bike a 'corrosion x' treatment. Also their parts are exposed, and if you're living in the city, chances are that some Mo-Fo will pull a spark plug wire, or other, just because they can.
So you got to see both sides.
Most of the Burgman 250's go in the seventies of MPH. The fuel injected ones go in the eighties; Carb bikes have ~65-75MPG, fuel injected bikes 80-82MPG.
Most of the bobbers go in the sixties of MPH, and have ~60-70MPG. They are manual geared, which is a lot better than a CVT, meaning less transmission losses due to CVT, but the final gear ratio is not very high, making it do 65-69MPH from top engine RPM rather than top HP.
If you look around, there might be some rear sprockets that you can find for the bobbers. Normally they have ~42T (depends from bike to bike), but sometimes it is possible to find an aftermarket sprocket of 36T, which basically gives you 10% better top speed, and 10% better MPG at top speed. You could also change the front sprocket on some, going from 15T all the way to 18T makes a HUGE difference in top speed ('bout 20% or 15MPH)
That's the good thing about chain driven bikes, is you can easily change the gear ratio's, by changing the sprockets. as well as that you can choose to ride economically (in 5th gear) through town, or with a lot of acceleration (in 2nd or 3rd). On CVT's you don't have this feat.
That being said a lot of people complain about the 'clickyness' of the gearshifter. Chinese bikes don't have easy gear shifting, then again, neither does Honda, or just about any bike I've been on with manual gears. I always seem to double click and miss the Neutral position.
Lastly, I find no benefit to ride around in a bobber, when the Japanese 250cc bikes are so cheap nowadays. Chinese bikes ($2500), actually cost you ~$3000 delivered and with tag and taxes. Go to a dealer, get a cheap 250cc sports bike, or cruiser, or even cafe racer, and you pay perhaps $500-$1000 more for decent quality, long lasting, no problems bike, that a mechanic will work on; quite often dual cylinder too, so more acceleration too. Although the big brands are now equipping those bikes with Fuel injection, it's definitely something you will want to have (better fuel economy, while having more torque). That'd be my 99ct on the topic :-)
Last Edit: Jan 31, 2013 4:24:05 GMT -5 by prodigit
Keep your eyes open and you can buy a good used Japan label scoot for that that will run trouble free for most of 20K miles or more and run 75-85 all day without concern. My o6 Majesty cost me under $3000 over 2 years ago. Cheers lefty2
I have a CF Moto 250 V3. CVT. I can cruise at 55 MPH no matter what the hills are like. Getting 60 MPG right now on High test. Very smooth. Accelerating to 40 is rather quick. I weigh 180 and I am 5'7" tall fits me well. I understand they no lounge make the V3 but its twin the V5 is a nice motorcycle looking scooter. I delt with Scooters Only in LI Ny. Very profesional trustworthy people. You do not mention were you are???[img src="i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/JustVideo/4001AA59-A61F-45FB-A7EA-7E1FC91D207E-4807-00000B44DC61B952.jpg"][/img]
Post by frankjustme on Feb 13, 2013 10:36:56 GMT -5
Love CVT's so I would say look for reliable scooters and do your research. I have had a Linhai and Kymco and giant difference in quality of scooters. Kymco rules in the scooter world. You may find a inexpensive Chinese brand but if it breaks down or is unreliable any cost savings you thought you had is completely negated and you wind up with a heap of expensive plastic. Just my two cents you have to live it first to understand sometimes.
Post by scootingrandma on Feb 13, 2013 19:16:13 GMT -5
I bought a chinese scooter a few years ago and it was a real waste of money. Finally sold it for $200! I got a Kymco Yager 200i last summer and LOVE it!! I rode more in one month than I did in 2 years with the junk chinese scooter. Yagar get 93 mpg's and runs 60 mph.
Before I bought my super8 I wrote a letter to kymco telling them that the yager had a big nose and that was holding sales down. if they would just send one free of charge, the following week to my business address, I would ride it all over and tell everyone I saw how great it was. It never showed up. I guess the shipping company must of lost it. That's the only possible explanation I can think of.
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