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Post by loncindawg on Jan 17, 2013 17:44:56 GMT -5
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Post by 50cc on Jan 17, 2013 17:54:18 GMT -5
Lol 100 bucks for a cdi ...
Just get a pink AC CDI for $12 and DO NOT BUy adjustable timing CDIs
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Post by loncindawg on Jan 17, 2013 18:19:06 GMT -5
Lol 100 bucks for a cdi ... Just get a pink AC CDI for $12 and DO NOT BUy adjustable timing CDIs Even if my scoot is DC? |
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Post by tvnacman on Jan 17, 2013 18:39:12 GMT -5
I have dc cdi's , if you want it to last get a dc cdi .
John
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Post by loncindawg on Jan 17, 2013 19:58:13 GMT -5
I have dc cdi's , if you want it to last get a dc cdi . John What's the price and how can I get it? |
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Post by rockynv on Jan 18, 2013 4:41:35 GMT -5
I went with the matched set High Output DC CDI and Coil from Scrappy Dog when my Lance was giving me issues. Solved some cold weather starting issues and helped fuel economy a bit. It is still listed as "DC performance stage one ignition kit" for $49.95 at: www.scrappydogscooters.com/ |
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Post by larrball on Jan 18, 2013 6:50:41 GMT -5
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Post by 50cc on Jan 18, 2013 8:37:04 GMT -5
Lol 100 bucks for a cdi ... Just get a pink AC CDI for $12 and DO NOT BUy adjustable timing CDIs Even if my scoot is DC? I meant DC Like this one: |
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Post by rickmain on Jan 18, 2013 10:14:30 GMT -5
Yes, you must install a DC cdi unit if your igntion is DC. You cannot interchange them. I have found that you can install a DC unit in an AC system and it will run, but not well, and you can't shut it off without manually unplugging it. If you put an AC cdi in a DC system, it will pop your fuse and likely burn up the cdi itself.
Some of the black cdi units are unrestricted, but do not have a modified ignition advance curve in them like a good and proper orange or blue one will. We have encountered alot of orange colored "performance" cdi's that were just stock units, just with an orange box.
Our performance cdi's have an advanced, variable, digital timing curve. Often these will give immediate performance results, but sometimes require the jetting to be richened to take full advantage of it. I would also recommend the HP ignition coil as rockynv suggested, along with an iridium plug. A good and hot ignition will at least get you easier starting, and even better fuel mileage. We've had testimonials that are highly varied from "gave me 15mph more top speed and much better acceleration" all the way to " piece of crap junky cdi made my bike run worse...waste of time...want my money back you crooks".
95% of the time our feedback shows that it makes a significant performance boost by itself.
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Post by loncindawg on Jan 18, 2013 13:49:34 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. By the way, if one can turn on the lights just by keying the ignition, engine off, is that really reliable confirmation that your CDI is DC? My Italika's lights come on that way, but a vendor in Mexico City, who sells to Italika (Loncin) owners almost exclusively, just informed me that my model uses AC. So now I'm confused.  |
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Post by rickmain on Jan 18, 2013 16:19:55 GMT -5
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Post by loncindawg on Jan 18, 2013 16:30:52 GMT -5
Thanks again. I'll get that figured out. |
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Post by prodigit on Jan 19, 2013 1:28:57 GMT -5
I still have a blue fin CDI. Never tested it, never needed it.
Got the 5 and 4+2 pin. The 5pin should be DC, the 4+2 pin should be ac.
Why not buy an adjustable CDI? Sounds to me like the best deal you can get?
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Post by EPAhater on Jan 20, 2013 9:55:45 GMT -5
Yes, you must install a DC cdi unit if your igntion is DC. You cannot interchange them. I have found that you can install a DC unit in an AC system and it will run, but not well, and you can't shut it off without manually unplugging it. If you put an AC cdi in a DC system, it will pop your fuse and likely burn up the cdi itself. Some of the black cdi units are unrestricted, but do not have a modified ignition advance curve in them like a good and proper orange or blue one will. We have encountered alot of orange colored "performance" cdi's that were just stock units, just with an orange box. Our performance cdi's have an advanced, variable, digital timing curve. Often these will give immediate performance results, but sometimes require the jetting to be richened to take full advantage of it. I would also recommend the HP ignition coil as rockynv suggested, along with an iridium plug. A good and hot ignition will at least get you easier starting, and even better fuel mileage. We've had testimonials that are highly varied from "gave me 15mph more top speed and much better acceleration" all the way to " piece of crap junky cdi made my bike run worse...waste of time...want my money back you crooks". 95% of the time our feedback shows that it makes a significant performance boost by itself. Sorry sir but that is wrong, on a lot of scooters the DC CDI has a kill wire just like the AC type just have to look at the pin out and put it on the proper pin. The 250A and 250B both have DC type CDI's and have a kill switch just like the common AC type CDI's and some 150's also do. There are a few DC type CDI's that are killed by just cutting power but again a lot do have the kill wire function. Also I have converted two common AC type CDI scooters to DC with no problems and they run well, I did not change the stator at all used the same pulse signal wire from the stator and just terminated the AC CDI voltage feed wire. I did change the coil also to match the DC type CDI. There are advantages to a DC type CDI mainly the timing is better and it's better on cold starts. Disadvantage is no start with kick starter if you have a dead battery. |
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Post by loncindawg on Jan 20, 2013 13:58:09 GMT -5
I can see that I'm going to wait until a couple of weeks from now - when I do my 4,000-kilometer service and initial modifications - to see what I have and then purchase a performance version of that.
Thanks again, all.
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Post by skuttadawg on Jan 20, 2013 14:13:49 GMT -5
Gy6s use a 2+4 plug as the 5 pin is used for 2Ts . I have the blue CDI from PFS and it did take off faster but same top end . I like how it is made from finned aluminum rather than plastic
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