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Post by mariahjones91 on Jan 15, 2013 9:48:49 GMT -5
I'm trying to register a 149cc moped but it's classiest as a motorcycle. I can't find the engine number anywhere. It's a flash wy150t-5. I live in California and I can't register it until I have it.
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Post by snugglebunny on Jan 15, 2013 9:52:14 GMT -5
find the VIN number, its on a metal tag mine is right on my floorboard, some are inside the seat bucket
the vin will tell your DMV exactly where your scoot was made, what class it is, etc etc
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Post by Fox on Jan 15, 2013 10:22:44 GMT -5
The engine number and the VIN number are two different things. On most scooters there is a rectangular cover that has the VIN number behind it stamped on the frame. There should be a plate similar to this somewhere on the scooter: The engine number is located just in front of the oil drain plug.
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Post by snugglebunny on Jan 15, 2013 10:34:44 GMT -5
i dont know all the laws for every state but, from what i do 'member. NO dmv wants your engine number, they want the VIN. Alot of times they will require you to prove its the right VIN, especially on scooters, which means taking it to the dmv so they can see, with their own eyes, the VIN
why would a DMV want a QMJ-157 or a QMB-139 number? but then again
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Post by mariahjones91 on Jan 15, 2013 12:55:58 GMT -5
Okay… I think I found it. How long is the number?
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Post by h3nry on Jan 15, 2013 14:23:18 GMT -5
Near 13 characters. Another place is behind the tire, the wheel well area (left of the tire). Sometimes none at all, seems some newer engines don't (I read its not required, in Arizona at least)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2013 16:17:52 GMT -5
Yes there is a law that specifies the FRAME or Chassis VIN and the engine VIN need to match up but that is usually reserved for salvage titles and self-built vehicles such as kit cars and such.
So in most cases the plate listing the VIN itself should suffice.
Actually all I did was took the title to the DMV... They didn't even want to see the scoot.
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Post by h3nry on Jan 15, 2013 16:29:37 GMT -5
Not even a level two inspection? That's weird Here in AZ they ,last time i went, have to do a quick look at it to make sure it has all the lights and stuff before issuing a new title (transfers and such)
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Post by dwscoot on Jan 15, 2013 17:27:45 GMT -5
Just registered my scooter in CA. When I bought it it was registered in Oregon. They had to do a visual inspection. Fox's post is correct - you have to show them the engine number along with the VIN in two different spots, plus the CARB sticker (emissions).
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Post by dwscoot on Jan 15, 2013 17:29:18 GMT -5
By the way - a moped means it has pedals (like a bicycle), is yours really a moped?
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Post by Fox on Jan 15, 2013 17:36:28 GMT -5
Lots of people call scooter mopeds. I hate it, I think it's ignorant but I let it slide cause trying to re-educate everybody is like trying to kick water uphill.
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Post by Fox on Jan 15, 2013 23:16:55 GMT -5
It has everything to do with pedals. A "MOPED" has pedals that assist the forward motion of the vehicle. A "SCOOTER" is a small "MOTORCYCLE" as indicated on the VIN plate. A "SCOOTER" is a small motorcycle and has no pedals. Read: www.dmv.ca.gov/motorcycles/motorcycles.htm
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Post by snugglebunny on Jan 18, 2013 18:15:13 GMT -5
thats why i said to give the DMV the VIN number. what ever way they classify your scoot. moped, M/C, motor assisted bicycle will come all off their data base according to your VIN
and there is no arguing with them if they call it a moped, its a moped if they call it a m/c , its a m/c
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