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Post by ryan52 on Jan 3, 2013 14:38:16 GMT -5
anyone know where to get a clutch bell nut. trying to find one but partsforscooters want 15 for shipping which is outrageous so any input would help
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Post by richardthescooter1 on Jan 3, 2013 14:55:27 GMT -5
Hey ryan52, what is it off of?
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Post by richardthescooter1 on Jan 3, 2013 15:02:11 GMT -5
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Post by Scooter Elements on Jan 3, 2013 15:25:02 GMT -5
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Post by carasdad on Jan 3, 2013 17:16:48 GMT -5
Hardware store.. M12X1 nut. 0.29 cents....  |
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Post by ryan52 on Jan 3, 2013 17:32:33 GMT -5
sorry its a m12 i believe its off a jog 90 engine
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Post by lovemy2strokes on Jan 3, 2013 18:05:37 GMT -5
You should probably use liquid graphite when you reinstall the next one so you dont ruin another one. Also make sure the spring youre using fits while is compressed. I notice a lot of very stiff springs are barely small enough to fit compressed and you should use caution when reinstalling.
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Post by lovemy2strokes on Jan 3, 2013 18:06:55 GMT -5
And if you use a non low profile nut youre not going to be able to put the cvt cover back on because it will hit the cover.
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Post by ryan52 on Jan 3, 2013 21:26:08 GMT -5
i bought some m12's off racing planet but what is the liquid graphite for? hows it work
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Post by fugaziiv on Jan 3, 2013 22:16:16 GMT -5
Did you chose UPS or USPS to get that shipping quote from us?
Keep in mind that we only charge what our shipping partners (UPS and USPS) charge us to get you the part. On small stuff USPS tends to be less expensive than UPS, and on larger packages it is usually vice versa.
Matt
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Post by teddy554 on Jan 3, 2013 22:36:13 GMT -5
matt
I tired the usps option once and it still was ship with ups i was wondering about that if it was up to date
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Post by carasdad on Jan 3, 2013 22:53:37 GMT -5
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Post by ryan52 on Jan 4, 2013 0:19:25 GMT -5
yeah i tried to click usps but wouldnt let me?? and ill try those other nuts too
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Post by rockynv on Jan 4, 2013 7:28:07 GMT -5
yeah i tried to click usps but wouldnt let me?? and ill try those other nuts too And what did they tell you when you called the toll free number on the phone or in responce to the email you sent to ask about shipping options? If the site does not work and you get a bogus price regardless of who the provider is try sending a request for a email price quote or call them at their toll free number. That is what I do and 99% of the time you get past these issues in very short time. |
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Post by fugaziiv on Jan 4, 2013 9:26:22 GMT -5
Hmm, if the USPS option isn't working please give us a call and let us know. We need to be aware of any issues that crop up so that we can fix it as soon as possible.
Let me know how your next test goes, and what browser you are using please so that I can check our websites cross-browser compliance.
Matt
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Post by lovemy2strokes on Jan 4, 2013 9:38:56 GMT -5
Thanks carasdad for the info on the nut! Ive been hunting for them at parts stores and didnt think about a flange nut.
Ryan The liquid graphite will allow it to spin on easier and it wont sling all over when you run it. Liquid graphite works great for rollers also but I dont tell people to use it as theres a lot of neigh say about it. I use it myself in all my variators and on the clutch nuts. Liquid graphite is a scooter tool box must have just like hondabond or yamabond.
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Post by carasdad on Jan 4, 2013 10:02:23 GMT -5
Thanks carasdad for the info on the nut! Ive been hunting for them at parts stores and didnt think about a flange nut. Ryan The liquid graphite will allow it to spin on easier and it wont sling all over when you run it. Liquid graphite works great for rollers also but I dont tell people to use it as theres a lot of neigh say about it. I use it myself in all my variators and on the clutch nuts. Liquid graphite is a scooter tool box must have just like hondabond or yamabond. You are welcome...I use both nuts..cause at 29 cents for the flange nut.....and 79 cents for the brake firewall nut...it sure beats a $4.99 nut with $3.00-$5.00 shipping and a week or so wait. As for graphite...lots of ney say about this too.. but I use it..it works. Pencils are graphite...I use a fat wide Carpenters pencil and coat my variator channels with it. Unlike powered graphite it does not blow away..it beds into the metal. Some say it causes wear...but with 4,000 miles on my sliders and 5,000 on the gf rollers...I see absolutely no wear at all... |
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Post by rockynv on Jan 4, 2013 21:44:44 GMT -5
As long as you use the correct grade to match the original the source of the nuts really does not matter except if the OEM from the scooter supply is really a one time use crush nut rated at a specific torque setting. On some of the bigger scooters it will not be a plain flange nut but a torque specific crush nut that should be replaced with a new one anytime it is removed.
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Post by cardini on Jan 4, 2013 21:53:15 GMT -5
this serves as a lesson,always use blue locktite on bolts and nuts..you nuts!
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Post by carasdad on Jan 4, 2013 22:32:28 GMT -5
this serves as a lesson,always use blue locktite on bolts and nuts..you nuts! That is what the flange nut is designed for...it is serrated on the backside...not to replace a lock nut...but to hold a drop of blue lock tite..so you don't have to torgue them down as much...and risk stripping them. |
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Post by skuttadawg on Jan 5, 2013 2:25:21 GMT -5
Blue Locktite may be too strong for China nuts and bolts as they are no where near as hard or strong as those made in the USA . I think there is Locktite that is not as strong as the blue and I think the red is permanent . I went to remove the heads off of a car to rebuild the engine and two of the headbolts the top of it sheared off . I had to use an EzeeOut ( backwards drill bit ) to drill into them which made it turn so it could be backed out of the hole . I had to use a tap and die kit to rethread the threads .
If you dont have or have access to a air or electric impact driver , I would get a hammered impact driver . The hammered type look like a very thick screwdriver with interchangeable tips and sockets with setting to break free or torque tight . You simply set it to loosen or tighten , have the right size socket , hold it firmly against the nut and only need to give it a modest wack to break it free only then use a normal wrench or socket . They cost around 10 for a noname brand and common to find in auto part or tool stores .
I first learned of them when I was 16 and needed to remove the case bolts to rebuild the wet clutch in my Honda CR 125 . A socket would only start to round the facets ( I only use 6 point sockets as 12 points are easier to slip and round nuts ) . The hammered impact worked great to break free the bolts that were tight and original factory installed . Tighten with a clickable torque wrench ( Harbor Freight often has them for only 10 dollars with coupon ) normaly 30 or so and decent but nothing like a Snap On brand ETC , but better than guessing as many have over tightened and stripped the splines and some did not torque it on enough and it came off often damaging the parts
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Post by loncindawg on Jan 5, 2013 3:39:13 GMT -5
Thanks carasdad for the info on the nut! Ive been hunting for them at parts stores and didnt think about a flange nut. Ryan The liquid graphite will allow it to spin on easier and it wont sling all over when you run it. Liquid graphite works great for rollers also but I dont tell people to use it as theres a lot of neigh say about it. I use it myself in all my variators and on the clutch nuts. Liquid graphite is a scooter tool box must have just like hondabond or yamabond. Is that Hondabond HT or Hondabond 4? Skuttadawg, I wish I'd read this two days ago, before I bought a 12-point 1-1/2-inch impact socket. The same maker has a six-point, but no Amazon Supersaver on that one. Update: I was able to cancel the order. |
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Post by rockynv on Jan 5, 2013 6:05:12 GMT -5
On the hammer operated impact drivers be careful where you use them. On threaded flanges that overhange the casting and are tabbed the big screwdriver type that you hit with a hammer have been known to snap off or crack the casting leving you with a bigger problem then you started with. My kid brother was prone to doing that and caused me a bunch of grief over the years.
That said they can be usefull in a pinch and I have owned one for 40 years now.
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Post by ryan52 on Jan 5, 2013 18:10:19 GMT -5
i think i have loctite in red bottle but its blue liquid i think 242? but im gonna start doing it by hand then ratcheting it and then use light impact
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Post by carasdad on Jan 5, 2013 19:32:11 GMT -5
Blue Locktite may be too strong for China nuts and bolts as they are no where near as hard or strong as those made in the USA . I think there is Locktite that is not as strong as the blue and I think the red is permanent . I went to remove the heads off of a car to rebuild the engine and two of the headbolts the top of it sheared off . I had to use an EzeeOut ( backwards drill bit ) to drill into them which made it turn so it could be backed out of the hole . I had to use a tap and die kit to rethread the threads . If you dont have or have access to a air or electric impact driver , I would get a hammered impact driver . The hammered type look like a very thick screwdriver with interchangeable tips and sockets with setting to break free or torque tight . You simply set it to loosen or tighten , have the right size socket , hold it firmly against the nut and only need to give it a modest wack to break it free only then use a normal wrench or socket . They cost around 10 for a noname brand and common to find in auto part or tool stores . I first learned of them when I was 16 and needed to remove the case bolts to rebuild the wet clutch in my Honda CR 125 . A socket would only start to round the facets ( I only use 6 point sockets as 12 points are easier to slip and round nuts ) . The hammered impact worked great to break free the bolts that were tight and original factory installed . Tighten with a clickable torque wrench ( Harbor Freight often has them for only 10 dollars with coupon ) normaly 30 or so and decent but nothing like a Snap On brand ETC , but better than guessing as many have over tightened and stripped the splines and some did not torque it on enough and it came off often damaging the parts Kevin...the blue lock tite is NOT for the Chinese nuts..I was referring to replacement flange nuts...or brake line firewall nuts bought at hardware store and auto parts stores.... |
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