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Post by shalomdawg on Dec 3, 2012 23:25:49 GMT -5
howdy y'all
i think it possible that pro and the rest are not completely understanding what the other opinion is saying and each is grabbing on to one thing and not seeing the complete picture of the opinion.
99 percent of our riding(old farts like myself)is non-emergency riding with no need for max braking. in such case, the front brake has some advantages.
it is effective
the disc, usual in the front are more easily fixed
the front tire generally wears less quickly and using the front brakes will even out the rate of wear between the front and rear.
after applying the front, if more brake is needed, add the rear.
on the scooters i ride, the front brake lever is easier to control because you are not simultaneously trying to modulate the throttle or being distracted trying not to change the throttle position.
i recognize that you will not achieve more than 95% or so of max braking using that system but ride in such a way that you don't need that extra 5%?
lotsa miles and smiles to ya
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Post by skuttadawg on Dec 3, 2012 23:34:41 GMT -5
I have downshifted on motorcross bikes on the street and the rear tires would spin as it was going slower than the front and knobbies are slick as its so easy to drift with a 2T 125 .
My Magnum I can hard brake it and make the rear tire stress where is is like it is spinning too
Always use both brakes and apply the rear first .
On a 2T there is no tranny drag it coasts and has fast response and pickup speed which makes them more fun to ride
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Post by onilegion on Dec 4, 2012 0:20:45 GMT -5
howdy y'all i think it possible that pro and the rest are not completely understanding what the other opinion is saying and each is grabbing on to one thing and not seeing the complete picture of the opinion. 99 percent of our riding(old farts like myself)is non-emergency riding with no need for max braking. in such case, the front brake has some advantages. it is effective the disc, usual in the front are more easily fixed the front tire generally wears less quickly and using the front brakes will even out the rate of wear between the front and rear. after applying the front, if more brake is needed, add the rear. on the scooters i ride, the front brake lever is easier to control because you are not simultaneously trying to modulate the throttle or being distracted trying not to change the throttle position.i recognize that you will not achieve more than 95% or so of max braking using that system but ride in such a way that you don't need that extra 5%? lotsa miles and smiles to ya  ? Are you indicating in this statement (highlighted in red) that you are currently riding scooters that have the front brake lever on the left side of the handlebars? All modern, CVT-configured scooters that we are familiar with, have the front brake lever on the right handle bar. Even the Helix, which had a foot-operated rear brake, still had the front brake lever on the right handlebar. We have owned 3 Cushman scooters that had the front brake lever on the left handlebar, but these were all non-CVT scooters that used a manual transmission with a foot-operated clutch. Just curious, onilegion <>< |
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Post by jazzman on Dec 4, 2012 0:39:09 GMT -5
I believe shalomdawg scoot IS a manual transmission scoot and that is why he said what he said.
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Post by onilegion on Dec 4, 2012 1:36:33 GMT -5
I believe shalomdawg scoot IS a manual transmission scoot and that is why he said what he said. Sorry if we confused you with the Cushman description; we were not implying that all, or any other, manual transmission scooters had this configuration. In fact the Cushman Eagle series was quite unique, because it had a manual tranny with a hand-operated shift lever on the side of the gas tank, a foot-operated clutch, and a foot-operated rear brake. This allowed for the right handlebar to only have a throttle control while the left handlebar had only the front brake lever control. If shalomdawg's signature line is current and accurate then he currently owns a Piaggio BV500, which is a CVT-configured scooter with the front brake lever on the right handlebar. We guess it is probably best to just wait for shalomdawg's explanation, rather than to speculate any further. Scoot'n on, onilegion <>< |
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Post by jazzman on Dec 4, 2012 1:59:26 GMT -5
I believe shalomdawg scoot IS a manual transmission scoot and that is why he said what he said. Sorry if we confused you with the Cushman description; we were not implying that all, or any other, manual transmission scooters had this configuration. In fact the Cushman Eagle series was quite unique, because it had a manual tranny with a hand-operated shift lever on the side of the gas tank, a foot-operated clutch, and a foot-operated rear brake. This allowed for the right handlebar to only have a throttle control while the left handlebar had only the front brake lever control. If shalomdawg's signature line is current and accurate then he currently owns a Piaggio BV500, which is a CVT-configured scooter with the front brake lever on the right handlebar. We guess it is probably best to just wait for shalomdawg's explanation, rather than to speculate any further. Scoot'n on, onilegion <>< HAHAHA, no confusion here my dear, WE know cushmans very well, including the bikes that have the throttle on the left hand grip and not on the right. |
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Post by skuttadawg on Dec 4, 2012 10:59:30 GMT -5
I have noticed if I let off off the throttle for a bit while going fast then hit WOT it had some lag for a fraction of asecond but on a 2T it never does this .
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Post by jazzman on Dec 4, 2012 12:53:06 GMT -5
Reason is most 2Ts have the throttle cable connected directly to the cylinder slider and immediatley lift the slider and needle out of the jet. While a CVK carb has to wait a bit until the air pressue lefts the slider.
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? Are you indicating in this statement (highlighted in red) that you are currently riding scooters that have the front brake lever on the left side of the handlebars?