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Post by nulldevice on Sept 1, 2012 20:12:14 GMT -5
You guys realize Yamaha dropped the T-Max from its lineup. I went to the International Bike show in NY city to specifically look at Siverwing, Burgman and T-Maxx. There were no T-maxxes and The rep told me they dropped them. So parts might become a bit of an issue, they were only here for a few years. No explanation why other than the Japanese side of corporate. Chris In the past I have bought Yamaha motorcycles 20 to 30 years old and had no problem getting new OEM parts and dealer service the very few times it was needed. Part and service availability have not an issue. |
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Post by cpete1 on Sept 1, 2012 21:25:22 GMT -5
I don't doubt you null device. My first bike was a 92 Virago 750. I had quite a disscussion with a Yamaha Rep at Americade years ago and he told me how yamaha was quite good about parts. Its just that the T-maxx was here stateside such a short time and scooters in general don't sell like motorcycles do ,although thats been changing. I guess I'd be a bit hesitant about going that route. Just thought I'd mention it to the guys posting. Not sure if they were aware of it or not.
Chris
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Post by kickstand on Sept 24, 2012 1:18:50 GMT -5
I have an extremely long story about a soul destroying hassle I had with a Chinese scooter company. It was a VERY happy day when I finally dumped the last Chinese bike (at a loss, of course) and bought a Honda Silverwing.
Yamaha and Suzuki are fine bikes. I prefer the Silverwing. Fast, comfortable and almost invincible.
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Post by gregsfc on Sept 25, 2012 6:01:56 GMT -5
I don't know the attitude on here or the original poster toward's European models. This is my first post and I know "Japanese" scooter was specifically stated and I've not seen a single thread about any Italian labels, but I thought that I should throw out that the Piaggio label offers a brand-new-designed engine, for an all-new BV350 in the US market. This scoot is getting rave reviews for performance, fuel economy, value, and long service interval, but is not quite the same as a Burgman, Majesty, or even a Kymco Downtown or Syms 300s, because it is not offered with a fully dressed out front end for wind and cold protection. Even Piaggio's top BV, the BV 500, does not have the dressed-out front end. Also, with respect to Piaggio/Vespa, there is not quite the same level of dealer network or parts availability as the Japanese brands or Kymco. I've got the 2013 BV350 and it fits my needs perfectly, and I've had no problems so far, so I've not had to deal with the dealership limitations. It can really get up and go; seems to be easy on tires so far; and I'm averaging 70+ mpg, which is not typical for other owners who are averaging between 60-66 according to fuelly.com. My only complaint is that I would rather have chosen a more fully dressed out maxi for weather protection, but my budget would have allowed for only the Downtown 300i in that range, and I couldn't find a dealer with one in stock. Piaggio does offer dressed-out versions in Europe with this same, great, new engine and design in an X10 350, which would have been my dream scooter. I also love the Burgman 400 but $7600 is big price for a 400. The Majesty comes in at a more reasonable $6850, but I much prefer the appearance of the Burgy.
I'm a little confused as to what range the considerations are in the inquiry, because, in my mind, the T-Max is more in the range of the Burgman 650, Kymco 500i, Honda Silverwing, and the BMWs coming in November. These are top-of-the-line maxi scooters; but the choice is between a T-Max and a Burgman 400; not Burgman 650; so to me, we're looking at the top maxis and second tier maxis. If we're limiting it to Japanese models then I would see all of the following for consideration: used or old dealer stock of T-Max, Majesty, Burgman 400, Burgman 650, Silverwing. If we add in all non-Chinese brands, then there is the Syms 300i, Kymco Downtown 300i, Piaggio BV350 and BV500, and the two BMWs coming in November. And, if we allow 3-wheelers, there is the MP3 400 and MP3 500.
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Post by frigginjoe on Oct 3, 2012 13:18:43 GMT -5
TMax or Burgman. Man. That's what I cal a good dilemma. I'd personally go with the Burgman for mileage, but I rode a TMax and the thing's just an amazing ride. If recreation factors into it by a reasonable degree, you'll have more fun on a TMax. Both awesome though. I almost bought my own Burgman last week, but I can't seem to let go of Chinascoot and my XCiting yet.  |
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Post by rockynv on Oct 3, 2012 21:42:53 GMT -5
Wait for the V Twin 800+ cc Aprilia scooter to hit the US market. It should give the T-Max and Burgman 650 some pretty tough competition.
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Post by Globs on Oct 4, 2012 18:31:07 GMT -5
Wait for the V Twin 800+ cc Aprilia scooter to hit the US market. It should give the T-Max and Burgman 650 some pretty tough competition. Maybe, not really impressed by thirsty, heavy scooters without any storage. |
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Post by scootnwinn on Oct 5, 2012 8:08:49 GMT -5
Wait for the V Twin 800+ cc Aprilia scooter to hit the US market. It should give the T-Max and Burgman 650 some pretty tough competition. Maybe, not really impressed by thirsty, heavy scooters without any storage. I'm with you there. Might as well just get a motorcycle at that point. |
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Post by spandi on Oct 5, 2012 10:49:29 GMT -5
800cc is not a scooter in my book anyways.......just an automatic motorcycle.
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Post by rockynv on Oct 5, 2012 11:40:56 GMT -5
Wait for the V Twin 800+ cc Aprilia scooter to hit the US market. It should give the T-Max and Burgman 650 some pretty tough competition. Maybe, not really impressed by thirsty, heavy scooters without any storage. Those scooters often have room for two full faced helmets under the seat so I am not so sure about the limited storage. Heavy yes but not limited for storage or capacity. |
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Post by gregsfc on Oct 7, 2012 5:31:37 GMT -5
I imagine that there are features about super-maxi scooters that will attract certain buyers, but price, mpg, and superior performance are not on the list. Even so, there are some people who would prefer a step-through, CVT-powered, up-right positioned, leg-protected scooter over an 800 cc motorcycle. But, in this range of scooter, there is much less competition for our dollars compared to a MC in this range, so value becomes a problem
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Post by quest4fire on Oct 7, 2012 9:26:20 GMT -5
The line between scooter and motorcycle is hopelessly blurred. For instance, 600cc and 16 inch wheels. Is it a scooter because the gas tank is under the seat? The a Goldwing is a scooter too.
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Post by scootnwinn on Oct 7, 2012 9:42:41 GMT -5
The line between scooter and motorcycle is hopelessly blurred. For instance, 600cc and 16 inch wheels. Is it a scooter because the gas tank is under the seat? The a Goldwing is a scooter too. I have heard many people accuse Goldwing riders of being scooterists for more than 20 years Defining scooters is hard but someone once described pornography saying "I can't describe it but I know it when I see it" I think the same applies to scooters |
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