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Post by Bintelli - Justin on Aug 16, 2012 14:04:59 GMT -5
With all of the calls we've been getting in the last few weeks, it has been blowing my mind how much dealers are paying their suppliers for shipping scooters. I've heard regular quotes of $100-$150 per scooter for orders of 10+. That's just crazy.
I've never been a fan of suppliers marking up shipping costs on their dealers. All of ours have been paying $25-$70 per scooter for shipping which is what it should be.
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Post by hardd1 on Aug 17, 2012 12:50:04 GMT -5
best freight prices I've ever experienced...only 30.00 per scoot to my Ft Myers Beach shop
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Post by mainepeace on Aug 17, 2012 19:15:04 GMT -5
If I get a scooter shipped to me for under $150 I'm their customer for life. I just paid $250 to have a scooter shipped to me from Indianapolis.
Greg
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Post by Bintelli - Justin on Aug 17, 2012 22:48:26 GMT -5
Greg, a customer for life huh? I know I've quoted you prices before and they were no where near $250. Been trying to get your business for a while now. Here's some quotes for you:
2 scooters - $95 per scooter
6 scooters - $75 per scooter
10 scooters - $55 per scooter
Let's do this.
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Post by mainepeace on Aug 17, 2012 22:57:30 GMT -5
Yeah, but I'll probably sell only 2 more scooters the rest of the year through the shop. And those are both used ones.
Season is almost over here. Kids are going back to school. All my cash invested in parts for the shop. I will definitely reconsider next March though.
Greg
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Post by carasdad on Aug 18, 2012 0:58:27 GMT -5
Yeah, but I'll probably sell only 2 more scooters the rest of the year through the shop. And those are both used ones. Season is almost over here. Kids are going back to school. All my cash invested in parts for the shop. I will definitely reconsider next March though. Greg Greg I am with you....stocked full of parts and the season is going to dwindle soon. When I used to sell scoots..shipping depended on how many...they always tried to push 50-100 units...and gave a good price of $40 each for that amount. But I only got 12 at a time...so it was $125 each. But now that I just sell parts and do repairs..shipping is still costly as they jacked up the prices..which makes no sense. They want me to sell their parts..but with insane shipping prices you can't be competitive or offer the customer a good price.....and sell many parts..so they are shooting themselves in the foot with their own greed.  Hell one wholesaler I USED to deal with...no longer do..charged me $61.40 on a $103.18 small parts order.... |
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Post by Bintelli - Justin on Aug 18, 2012 11:49:58 GMT -5
Yeah, but I'll probably sell only 2 more scooters the rest of the year through the shop. And those are both used ones. Season is almost over here. Kids are going back to school. All my cash invested in parts for the shop. I will definitely reconsider next March though. Greg Alright, well we'll be calling you once that snow melts to get you set up with some quality scooters being shipped at unheard of shipping prices. "Customer for Life" is what you said  |
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Post by carasdad on Aug 18, 2012 12:04:19 GMT -5
Yeah, but I'll probably sell only 2 more scooters the rest of the year through the shop. And those are both used ones. Season is almost over here. Kids are going back to school. All my cash invested in parts for the shop. I will definitely reconsider next March though. Greg Alright, well we'll be calling you once that snow melts to get you set up with some quality scooters being shipped at unheard of shipping prices. "Customer for Life" is what you said Got website to show what you offer? I have noticed that most of the new scoots folks are coming out with...are ugly as a mud fence...  |
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Post by jdikov on Aug 18, 2012 12:42:46 GMT -5
Those are great shipping rates. Who are you using?
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Post by acntvman on Aug 18, 2012 13:03:48 GMT -5
Those are great shipping rates. Who are you using? Please do tell. John |
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Post by Bintelli - Justin on Aug 18, 2012 15:42:39 GMT -5
Those are great shipping rates. Who are you using? Multiple carriers. A magician never reveals his secrets! |
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Post by Bintelli - Justin on Aug 18, 2012 15:43:03 GMT -5
Alright, well we'll be calling you once that snow melts to get you set up with some quality scooters being shipped at unheard of shipping prices. "Customer for Life" is what you said Got website to show what you offer? I have noticed that most of the new scoots folks are coming out with...are ugly as a mud fence... |
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Post by Carolina Fun Machines on Aug 18, 2012 17:23:50 GMT -5
Like he said in the movie ROADHOUSE "I thought you would be bigger" and PS said ?
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Post by rapidjim on Aug 19, 2012 10:22:18 GMT -5
With all of the calls we've been getting in the last few weeks, it has been blowing my mind how much dealers are paying their suppliers for shipping scooters. I've heard regular quotes of $100-$150 per scooter for orders of 10+. That's just crazy. I've never been a fan of suppliers marking up shipping costs on their dealers. All of ours have been paying $25-$70 per scooter for shipping which is what it should be. Greg, a customer for life huh? I know I've quoted you prices before and they were no where near $250. Been trying to get your business for a while now. Here's some quotes for you: 2 scooters - $95 per scooter 6 scooters - $75 per scooter 10 scooters - $55 per scooter Let's do this. Did I miss something here or is there something wrong with my math? Jim |
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Post by jdikov on Aug 19, 2012 12:07:26 GMT -5
Number look good Jim. But the rates are really low. Of course it depends how far they go and where to but those are good numbers if they are being moved 1000 miles or more.
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Post by Bintelli - Justin on Aug 19, 2012 16:35:29 GMT -5
With all of the calls we've been getting in the last few weeks, it has been blowing my mind how much dealers are paying their suppliers for shipping scooters. I've heard regular quotes of $100-$150 per scooter for orders of 10+. That's just crazy. I've never been a fan of suppliers marking up shipping costs on their dealers. All of ours have been paying $25-$70 per scooter for shipping which is what it should be. Greg, a customer for life huh? I know I've quoted you prices before and they were no where near $250. Been trying to get your business for a while now. Here's some quotes for you: 2 scooters - $95 per scooter 6 scooters - $75 per scooter 10 scooters - $55 per scooter Let's do this. Did I miss something here or is there something wrong with my math? Jim Jim, we don't have any dealers as far away as Maine yet, which is why all of our current dealers are paying $25-70 per scooter... however, all of our dealers purchase 5-20 at a time usually, so from FL to Maine all that distance for only 10 scooters at $55/scooter is a price that is never seen in this industry. |
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Post by rapidjim on Aug 20, 2012 8:37:39 GMT -5
Did I miss something here or is there something wrong with my math? Jim Jim, we don't have any dealers as far away as Maine yet, which is why all of our current dealers are paying $25-70 per scooter... however, all of our dealers purchase 5-20 at a time usually, so from FL to Maine all that distance for only 10 scooters at $55/scooter is a price that is never seen in this industry. I was just wondering. I agree that your shipping prices are good, better than some I have dealt with, however, I had 6 2 wheeled scooters shipped to me from Ice Bear and it worked out to $68.34 a piece. That is Ca to Wi, 1950 miles. Now when I had only 2 shipped it was $120 a piece almost double. We won't go into what trikes cost LOL. Jim |
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Post by hardd1 on Aug 23, 2012 13:34:21 GMT -5
best freight prices I've ever experienced...only 30.00 per scoot to my Ft Myers Beach shop oops, after looking over old invoices i found that hammerhead had free shipping when ordering 10 or more adly's |
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Post by rapidjim on Aug 23, 2012 14:29:45 GMT -5
best freight prices I've ever experienced...only 30.00 per scoot to my Ft Myers Beach shop oops, after looking over old invoices i found that hammerhead had free shipping when ordering 10 or more adly's Now that is hard to beat! |
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Post by jdikov on Aug 23, 2012 14:53:29 GMT -5
Jim,
For some crazy reason shipping out of CA is a lot less expensive than shipping out of FL. We have been very frustrated also because we sometimes have BMS send a scooter to a retail customer and it cost less for us to ship one from CA to MA than to ship one from FL to MA. Twice the distance and costs less. We do not have a set fee for shipping our scooters. We just charge the dealer whatever the cost actually is.
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Post by Bintelli - Justin on Aug 23, 2012 20:14:46 GMT -5
best freight prices I've ever experienced...only 30.00 per scoot to my Ft Myers Beach shop oops, after looking over old invoices i found that hammerhead had free shipping when ordering 10 or more adly's how much were you paying for the actual scooter? I'm guessing in the range of $1200-1400? |
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Post by rapidjim on Aug 24, 2012 8:16:52 GMT -5
Jim, For some crazy reason shipping out of CA is a lot less expensive than shipping out of FL. We have been very frustrated also because we sometimes have BMS send a scooter to a retail customer and it cost less for us to ship one from CA to MA than to ship one from FL to MA. Twice the distance and costs less. We do not have a set fee for shipping our scooters. We just charge the dealer whatever the cost actually is. If you ever figure out how they come up with shipping costs let me know. I have a company down the road that ships car parts all over the world and they pay what he calls "pallet cost" whatever he can get on a pallet ships for $75.00. I will tell you what burns me up more than scooter shipping is parts shipping in over size boxes, like a rear fender assm for a trike. UPS charges "dimensional weight' for these items. Meaning they charge by how much weight the box "could hold". Give you an idea a one piece rear fender assembly for a Magnum from CA to Wi $180.00 by UPS. THe fender weighs maybe 25 lbs. Jim |
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Post by acntvman on Aug 24, 2012 9:08:59 GMT -5
Seems shipping is a min of 30% and of the cost of the order. Then seems to drop slightly as the cost of goods increase or many items . I just placed an order just over $100 shipping is over $40 .
John
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Post by Carolina Fun Machines on Aug 24, 2012 17:50:35 GMT -5
Space on a plane or truck is space regardless of the weight. When we bring over a container it is the same price full or empty. On shipping scooters there is fixed cost to pickup and deliver so it gets cheaper the more scooters that is spread across.
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Post by jdikov on Aug 26, 2012 17:41:07 GMT -5
Yes. Typically if you order 8-15 scooters at a time you get pretty good rates.
Jim parts shipping is nuts. When we have to ship body panels sometimes the shipping costs more than the panel does because the box is so big.
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Hell one wholesaler I USED to deal with...no longer do..charged me $61.40 on a $103.18 small parts order....
