YY250T LED front turn signals not working

[scoot250]

Hello,

Well, i purchased brake, turn signal, and license plate SMD LEDs.
I replaced the bulb brake lights with red SMD LEDs and they work fine. Then I replaced the rear turn signals with amber SMD LEDs and they worked fine. I replaced the bulb in the license plate with SMD LED, and worked fine. Then I moved to the front. I removed the fairing and installed 2 blue SMD LEDs for the running lights on the sides, the small wedge type. They work fine too.
Then I installed the two front amber SMD LED turn signals and they are not working. If I remove the two front amber SMD LEDs and place the old bulb turn signals they work again. All LEDs work except for the two front amber SMD LEDs. If I take them off and put the old ones in they work. All other SMD LEDs work regardless of the front turn singals. Only time the front turn signals will work, is if I use the old buld amber lights. Hmmmm, any ideas??
This is probably something small I am overlooking, but I can't figure it out.
I read a lot here, is it the flasher? I mean, the rear SMD turn signals work just fine with the old bulbs in the front turn signals or if I use the new SMD LEDs in the front. Only thing not working is when I try using the new amber SMD LEDs in the front turn signals.
I also tested the front two amber SMD LEDs in the back turn signals and they are working, so it's not the SMD LEDs being bad.

And I thought I had this down....lol
I left my fairing off to see if there is something else I could try, guess I'll wait and see if you guys have any ideas....

Any help is greatly appreciated!!!!

[WarrenS]

Did the speed of the flash increase when you put the rear turn signals in? That would indicate that your flasher relies on heat to flash. You can either add ballasts to the wires or get an electronic flasher.

[scoot250]

No change in speed, looks the same as before.

I order a solid state electronic flasher...will update once i get it and install it...

[WarrenS]

There is another reason for the signals not to work. Some LEDs are polarized meaning they have to have the right negative and positive current going to them. I just ran into this problem but it was push in style bulbs. It would mean that your socket is wired backward. This isn't too common but could be.

[scoot250]

Well, I received the new electronic flasher that works for regular bulbs or LEDs. I installed it and it still does not work! Crazy. It does the same exact thing as with the original flasher. The rear turn signal LEDs work but the front don't turn on at all. If I use the regular bulbs in the front and leave the LEDs in the rear the front and rear work. If I try to use LEDs for the front and back only the rear will work. It seems that it does not like LEDs in the front!

[WarrenS]

The wires to the front ones are probably reversed. See if you can simply switch the plugs for them.

[scoot250]

WarrenS....

You were totally correct!!! I love this....My LEDs front and rear are now working!!! I just reversed the wires on both front turn signals and walla....

Thank you very much ....

Would you know why my Red LED tail light is not very bright until the brake is applied? The Red LED tail light is only bright when the brake is on, when released it is barely on. When I use the stock bulb in the tail light it is bright and then when the brake is applied it gets even brighter, but my Red LED replacement is only bright with the brake applied, when just on, it is barely lit.

[WarrenS]

That is the way it is supposed to work. The stop light is important at all times while the tail light is only necessary at night. A more expensive bulb might give more light if you don't feel it is bright enough.

[scoot250]

Thanks WarrenS....

Yep, I think I will try the 7.5W 1157 SMD LED. It is more expensive than the one's I purchased before, I think that the one I currently have are only a couple of watts, maybe this is the reason that when the tail light is on, it is barely giving off any light. Almost looks like its off, but it's not. Currently I just put on the stock 1157, since it gives much more light when it is only used as a tail light.

[scoot250]

I am currently noticing that my battery does not seem to keep its charge. I am definitely going to have to change out these tail lights. I have not ridden the scooter much yet. I wanted to finish most of my mods to it before taking it for a ride. Maybe since it is only idling when I turn it on, it is not giving enough of a charge to the battery. It is about 12.50 right now while off.I already changed out all turn singals to LEDs, and both running lights. Currenlty have weak brake light LEDs on too. I changed out the instrument cluster bulbs to the T10s. There was 3 in the cluster. My tag light is also LED T10. My headlights I changed from the stock to Bi xenon hi/low and are 35w. Not sure what else I can change out to help the charging system.

[scoot250]

I read on a post somewhere that the voltage regulator has a potentiometer inside and they are factory adjusted to give out a specific amount of voltage and not more. Theoretically...could I just open up the voltage regulator and increase the potentiometer to allow more voltage through my regulator to compensate for the upgraded headlights needing more power. This would then allow more power through to the battery, thus keeping the battery charged.

anyone???