MP3 Player For Scooter Suggestions

[skuttadawg]

I know some of the touring models come with MP3 adapter and some a radio . Most of us will have to install aftermarket speakers ( I will by spring break ) and I would like to know what MP3 players work the best for scooting . I know Ipod is one of the best , but I do not want to use Itunes ( having to convert the files ) or have a hard drive . I want a solid state ( no mechanical moving parts ) with only a simple copy and paste is all required to load it with tunes . I had an elcheapo Cody which was like an usb flash drive and easy to use . Well looking around at Wally World they have plenty in the 60 or less price range . 2 gig is plenty as you can always delete and install music as needed and no need to load your entire library . I like to use Jet Audio ( www.jetaudio.com/ ) the free one to rip audio cds into mp3 format . It has lots of bitrate options ( 192 sounds best without taking up too much space , 128 is about a meg a min but too compressed with ambiance loss . I know external speakers will not be Alpine quality but I would like to hear all of the audio ranges and vocals . I laugh at weenies who have so much bass that its all you hear with the "boom boom " but no mids , highs or vocals . I am not wanting to impress or bother my neighbors , bu want enough so I can hear it at 55 MPH with a fullface helmet on . Jet Audio can also do many file types like .wma or .ogg as well as .mp3 .

Getting mp3s via a peer to peer ftp or bit torrent is illegal and the number one way viruses get in computers . Its not worth a 1,000 per song where you can use Napster ( now legal ) or Itunes to get digital music . If you have audio cds you can simply rip ( copy to the hard drive ) . Capturing streaming audio or video is legal , like recording radio broadcast to a cassette or tv show to a VCR tape . There is several You Tube apps and Firefox extensions so that you can save your streams and be legal .

I prefer a player that uses throw away or rechargeable standard batteries unlike the Ipod which is proprietary , not easily changed or easy to buy like standard AAs .

Do most use a mp3 holder thats mounted on the scooter ? I am planning on getting a 2T 50 that has a large lockable dash with enough room for mp3 player , cellphone and paperwork . My Echarm tiny dash is just big enough for registration and insurance paper work . I plan on always removing the mp3 player when I park my scooter . We have alot of scooter thefts and auto break ins here . I would hate to shoot a loser over a 40 dollar gadget , so want to remove temptation from a crook .

[skuttadawg]

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[mzv]

My cell plays MP3's so I'd just use it, if I ever choose to listen to tunes on the ride.

[skuttadawg]

I want to use external speakers . Does a phone put out enough to push them ? I am sure they are amplified

[mainepeace]

Listening to music with earbuds or a helmet with built in speakers is illegal in some areas. There was a thread about 6 months ago with a good list of the areas that outlawed the use. Some states you can use a speaker in one ear, some states both ears, some states no ears.

Personally I can see how it can distract you and also cover up important traffic noises if the radio is turned up too loud. Since they can't really legislate stupidity, they can legislate whether you can listen to them or not. As far as I know, a regular radio that doesn't approach your ear is legal everywhere.

Personally, even in a car, I keep the radio off.

Greg

[inuyasha]

Hi
Like Miss Kitty said i would use my cell phone for the player as it would be enough as the amplifier will boast the output for the speakers
If thats not to your liking how about one of the systems that include a powered mp3 player/amplifier like this one
www.pyleaudio.com/sku/PLBKA60BK/300-Watts-Waterproof-Portable-BicycleScooter-MP3Ipod-Music-Player-(Black)-
Take care and drive safely dear friend
Yours Hank

[imarider]

they sell kits for scooters you can get ready to run or you can get a cheap motorcycle amp set-up that well work as well
i would cheak ebay for motorcycle kits to you find the set-up you like and customilze it to your scooter like i did

[skuttadawg]

I bought a RCA 4 gig mp3 player since it was 40 and does video ( not HD ) , small , and has a rechargeable battery instead of throw aways . My Jonway Magnum has a large dash and replacement is only 5 bucks so I am going to get a spare to mount speakers in and keep the original in case I go " ooops " . MP3 player desktop speakers are a faint whisper so I will need an amp to hear them . I looking at a system by Pyle that uses its own usb rechargeable battery ( 8 hour life ) so no need to hook up to the scooter battery or stator and my lights stay bright .

Does the 140qmb ( 2T 49cc ) have a 6 or 8 pole ?

Wish I had a Bose budget as they make the best speakers for HD quality as I prefer over how loud it can be . My mp3s are 192 bit to 320 bit as I hate how 128 strips out the ambiance and sounds like its in a box with so much compression . I maybe almost blind but I have bionic ears lol

[Jim West]

My 2008 johnway 2 stroker came with a radio (FM) installed in the "dash" and the two speakers are on the glovebox door. There is a plug in the glovebox to plug into an MP3 player also. I just use my cheapo Sandisk MP3 player I bought off WOOT and it works grea! The radio doesn't come in great because of the cheap wire antenna, so I only use the MP3 player. I found it to be a distraction most of the time so I don't use it often.

[timber]

I concur there, some states don't allow drivers to wear headphones or similar, I really don't feel it's a good idea to be zonking out on music while driving a scooter or MC which requires 110% focus 100% of the time, especially if there's traffic around you, bad paving. I guess it might be different if you were out on the open road such as in Utah or Nevada where there was nothing around for miles and you were the only vehicle around, but it's unlikely someone would drive a scooter way out in noman's land like that, many miles from the nearest town

Also, on iTunes- BEWARE! there is an ongoing hacking problem that Apple has been aware of for the last year of iTunes accts hacked and people's gift cards and paypal accounts drained or billed for fraudulent in-game purchases made in China through some game network.
I had iTunes for a dozen years no problem, then a month ago I got 2 receipts for purchases and I went whoa... wait asec, I didn't buy anything recently, and certainly not for $39.95 and $19.98.
I checked the receipts and the emails from iTunes and it showed 2 in-game purchases which it said were made on a computer in China which I had not previously registered (which should have been a BIG red flag) thru some in-game purchase.

Paypal automatically deducted the funds from my damn checking acct which overdrew it, and it took numerous emails and several phone calls, including amazingly enough- one denial of claim from Paypal which they said later on the phone was in error.
When they finally reversed the funds, and iTunes closed my acct, and paypal terminated the billing agreement with iTunes for purchases as I asked, it took about 10 days to get my funds back into paypal, 3 more days to transfer back to checking.

I did a google search and there are hundreds if not more forums, blogs and so forth full of posts from people who had lost their entire iTunes balance and loaded gift cards, and/or had large amounts of funds deducted from their paypal account. One guy said he was charged I think it was $59.95 for in-game purchases multiple times adding up to over $1,000.

I do not respond to any pfishing emails to verify things, my last use of iTunes for a purchase was one song last Nov, I have a MAC not a pc, I used a difficult password. So from all Ive read, many have had this problem and also reported having very hard passwords and only their iTunes acct compromised, it appears to be an internal problem with iTunes itself not people being phished or using poor passwords.

You'll want to look at this page, as well as google "itunes fraudulent charge" note this is from 2010 and it's STILL going on;

www.networkworld.com/news/2010/082310-apple-cant-stop-ongoing-itunes.html

Apple can't stop ongoing iTunes charge scam
ITunes users are getting hit with hundreds of dollars of fraudulent charges
August 23, 2010

Users of Apple's iTunes services should keep a close eye on PayPal and credit card statements for fraudulent iTunes charges.
For more than a year now, scammers have been racking up unauthorized charges on iTunes accounts, leaving Apple's customers to clean up the mess.
Tech Crunch and the San Jose Mercury News report that the scam is ongoing -- often draining hundreds of dollars or more from accounts -- but consumers have been complaining about the problem since at least early 2009.

The number of people being hit by the fraudsters now seems to be growing, however.

"My iTunes account just got hacked and someone made about $700 worth of purchases," one Facebook poster wrote Monday. "I contacted Paypal (who was awesome btw, refunded all) and they said Apple has gotten so many attacks since June, they can barely keep up with reporting them all!"
That scam victim, Layne Harris, told this reporter he has no idea how his account was compromised.
PayPal, which is often processing the unauthorized charges, confirmed Monday that customers are being reimbursed for the fraud.
The fraud "is happening on the iTunes side," a PayPal spokeswoman said via e-mail. She referred further questions about the scam to Apple.



betanews.com/2011/06/02/meet-three-people-ripped-off-by-itunes-fraud-ring/

Reports from victims of fraud on iTunes are beginning to paint a picture of what could be a significant security issue for Apple's online entertainment store. Worse yet, several of the victims that reported into Betanews on their experience are employed in IT -- obviously understanding the risks of improperly secured personal data.

Although not uniform, Betanews investigations into the issue seem to suggest that attackers have primarily targeted users that had credit balances with iTunes. Monitoring of Sega's Kingdom Conquest app page show new comments posted today of fraudulent charges, indicating the hack is ongoing. But that's not the worst of it: other apps may be victims of these hackers.

Reader Aaron Howell reported that he was one such victim, finding that someone had downloaded Storm8's World War, and then proceeded to download in-app credits on April 29. Howell had no credit card or PayPal on file, so the hacker was able to drain his gift card balance.

So what is going on here? It's still quite difficult to tell, but a few possibilities seem more obvious. First, the issue could lie in the in-app purchasing system. Here, an attacker could be using an exploit to make purchases against accounts that are not theirs. A second possibility is the gift card system somehow contains the exploit, which has given hackers access to account credentials. This does not explain, however, those attacked like myself who were not carrying a gift card balance.

[skuttadawg]

You can capture streams for free legally where a p2p ftp is not legal

[skuttadawg]

I just got this mp3 player today and its pretty good despite no display . Its small , has rechargeable battery via usb which is what I want instead of throw away batteries , uses a micro sd card like in a phone for storage so you can have a few cards and just swap them out to change out selections , and it has a metal belt clip www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0047IITTK/ref=sr_1_15_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1334295653&sr=8-15&condition=new some have free shipping . 8 gig micro sd card for as little as 29 cents . I like how its only copy and paste to put music on the card and not requiring software like Itunes or registering . Its a tad louder than my RCA which I will return which it is ok and also does video but not HD .

I can put the mp3 player and my Music Bullet www.amazon.com/Music-Bullet-Seen-Rechargeable-Speakers/dp/B005XA0DNQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334296273&sr=8-1 in a breast pocket I can hear if I putt around but not at high speeds . The iHome speakers have an extra port so you can daisy chain two or more together where the Music Bullet does not . Both are amplified with a rechargeable battery via usb and loud enough to hear but not so where you annoy others . Now my friend with her iPod was much louder than mine . I use 192 to 320 bit rate mp3s as they sound so much better than 128 . Jet Audio you can easily rip and convert your cds to mp3 or other formats www.jetaudio.com they have a free and a paid version . Since its illegal to use a file sharing program to get music and can have fines up to 1,000 a song or buy from iTunes at 99 cents , you can LEGALLY capture streams like from You Tube and save to your computer . Its like recording music from the radio or a tv show on a vcr tape . Yes its not iPod quality and way cheaper in price its a great buy at under 10 and shipping and easier to change out selections with cards instead of requiring to be plugged into a computer . The belt clip makes it easy to wear and access instead of being in a pocket . I saw a woman today jogging while listening to her iPhone that was strapped on her arm , but she kept putting her hand by it like she thought it might fall off and be a distraction from from jogging

[alandok85]

Hey skuttadawg, check out this website they have a super cheap audio amp with speakers for only $6.50! I may install it myself, I don't think its water proof though may need a silicone coat to seal it up good. : /
www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/AMP-5/MINI-STEREO-AUDIO-AMPLIFIER-W/SPEAKERS/1.html

But its compatable with any audio jack connect able mp3 player.

[skuttadawg]

Thanks

[Stash]

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0039PFYYA/ref=oh_o03_s00_i00_details

This is what I put on my 50. Id like it louder but it worked. you can plug in anything with a usb and itll charge it too. there's also a SD card slot. the remote suck, but do you really need a remote on a scooter?

[skuttadawg]

A remote wow is it that loud to where you have to walk away from it and use a remote ? haha . Can you hear it with a full face helmet on at highway speeds ?

[Stash]

probably not. i hear it on my 50 at wot with a loud exhaust but i doubt it with a helmet.

[skuttadawg]

Bummer my Jonway Rock thunder can be heard at 60 with helmet on . I am looking into a Shark radio with a sub under the seat