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Post by dkw12002 on Nov 17, 2011 19:04:49 GMT -5
I was wondering what the fastest stock scooters are for the common sizes starting with 125 cc? I can occasionally find top speed, but nothing on actual numbers for acceleration. I think my Vespa 300 must be near the top of the 300s, and so must the Sportcity 125, but I don't know about Honda, Kymco, Sym, Genuine, etc. I want a scooter that I would have to hang on if I open the throttle. Who makes the biggest 2 stroke and is that the fastest?
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Post by skuttadawg on Nov 17, 2011 19:50:02 GMT -5
Most 2T are 50 cc but there is 90 cc BBks for them . My Echarm can hit 70 but it might go faster when I put in heavier sliders next week .
How fast is that Kymco and Aprilia ?
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Post by inuyasha on Nov 17, 2011 20:01:54 GMT -5
Hi Ive been looking at one of these for quite some time Genuine Stella 2 T 150cc www.genuinescooters.com/stella2.htmlMy local dealer carries Genuine and has a couple on the showroom floor Very nice scoot very quick off the line and good topend speed love the 4 speed manual twist grip trannie And this is my dream scoot, shes scary fast www.genuinescooters.com/blur.html#OverviewOh man i so want one Take care and drive safely Yours Hank
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Post by leo on Nov 17, 2011 20:15:40 GMT -5
I can occasionally find top speed, but nothing on actual numbers for acceleration. my 250 came with 16 gram rollers and it could do zero to 60 in roughly 10 seconds. before i changed rollers there was nothing that could beat me off the line. i was even asked if the scoot was super charged! bone stock.
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Post by Silver Streak on Nov 17, 2011 20:22:59 GMT -5
I wonder what the fastest step thru scoot is without the center hump....the sym hd200 is pretty quick but I don't think its the fastest...
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Post by wheelbender6 on Nov 17, 2011 20:44:31 GMT -5
There is a 100cc 2 stroke currently produced called the Rattler. I think it is made by Genuine.
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Post by wheelbender6 on Nov 17, 2011 20:55:01 GMT -5
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Post by inuyasha on Nov 17, 2011 21:01:50 GMT -5
Hi Sure its a True Genuine Its not listed on there site www.genuinescooters.com/index.htmlAnd my Local dealer who carries Genuine doesnt have any info or know anything about them I would beware Btw i like the motorbike in your avatar Heres mine motor bike8 by inuyasha50, on Flickr Take care and drive safely Yours Hank
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Post by Cookees on Nov 17, 2011 21:03:37 GMT -5
CFMOTO Glory....hands down.
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Post by skuttadawg on Nov 17, 2011 21:57:47 GMT -5
E charm is 43lbs lighter and has 16in tires .
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Post by imtb on Nov 18, 2011 13:33:47 GMT -5
For a 150 the echarm is probably the fastest. I would LOVE one of those mt 150 2 stroke Stellas though.
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Post by roboscoot on Nov 18, 2011 16:21:01 GMT -5
without the hump and putting out 25 hp i would not be surprised (for 250cc class).....the hyosung ms3-250........of course you said stock which for me means un-modified.... re genuine the biggest cc scooter they make is a 220i......called the blur.....however they are currently working out an agreement/partnership with sym to produce a 300i.....due they say in 2013 model
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Post by Globs on Nov 18, 2011 17:02:41 GMT -5
The biggest flat-floor (guessing this is what you mean 'without the hump'?) scooter here I could find was the Sym 200 Joyride - 15 or 16hp and 171.2cc. I'd like a 250 in there but I suspect it won't happen
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Post by tour96se on Nov 18, 2011 18:34:21 GMT -5
is the italjet dragster still made? 19hp 2t
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Post by dkw12002 on Nov 18, 2011 18:35:23 GMT -5
The Sportcity 250 and 300 have a flat floor although it is a little narrow front to back. Also the grocery hook is so high that something in a bag tends to hang rather than resting on the floor and being secured by the hook. I owned the Sportcity 250 and it was fast, just not quite as fast as my Vespa 300 I don't think. Actually, my Sportcity 125 seems as fast as my Vespa 150S, but I can't tell for sure. They are close. I think the engines are the same in the Vespa and Sportcities. They look the same anyway. Just mounted a little different. I can tell you a slower 125 for sure....the Vino 125. Still, I loved that scooter because it was well made, had a nice low seat and started and ran so well...just not quite as fast as the Sportcity 125 or probably most other 125s.
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Post by hardd1 on Nov 18, 2011 19:42:24 GMT -5
Genuine Buddy 50cc, 125cc, 150cc and 170cc fastest in class
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Post by dkw12002 on Nov 18, 2011 19:50:02 GMT -5
How do you know these things? I have never seen anything but anecdotal info about any scooters. I mean with cars and trucks, you have 0-60 times, but I have never seen that with scooters to compare. That Stella should be really fast, but I don't know how fast. I mean can a Scarabeo 200 beat it? Wish there was a list of acceleration times for scooters.
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Post by tour96se on Nov 18, 2011 19:54:20 GMT -5
some of the quicker cheap scooters would be the small framed 150's like the keeway matrix, vento triton, diamo gtx150, etc etc. the aprilia sr50 unlocked is pretty quick too.
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Post by wheelbender6 on Nov 18, 2011 21:32:50 GMT -5
Scooter Invasion in Tempe, AZ is still selling them. Perhaps they are no longer in production. www.scooterinvasion.com/rattler.htmInuasa-I did not expect to see any other motorized bike riders on this site. I like your cruiser.
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Post by skuttadawg on Nov 18, 2011 21:34:02 GMT -5
Do you mean the 2T sr50 with a super charger ? A friend of a friend has one he said it goes up to 58 MPH . I would love to have a 2T pocket rocket just to toy around on .
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Post by dkw12002 on Nov 18, 2011 22:00:02 GMT -5
I rode an sr50 a couple months ago. It is high tech for sure with the computerized mapping program. I sat too high and the platform was too narrow for me. They are a little tempermental I hear, but the one I rode was very fast for a 50...about the same as my Scarabeo 100 I would say. Strange sound. It was very quiet and sounded almost like a vacuum cleaner, more of a swishing sound and nothing like a standard 2 stroke. The one I rode was stock with standard rollers, exhaust, etc. AF1 racing has those on sale now.. 2009s for 2 thousand. The advantage of those was lost on me since I could and did buy a 100 cc Scarabeo for less, and the SR50R with the Ditech (fuel injected) engine still requires a motorcycle endorsement cause its too fast. Those can be modified to do 80 mph but that wouldn't be stock.
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Post by mike6736 on Nov 18, 2011 22:20:36 GMT -5
I don't know about some of the above said speeds... I do know my Honda Reflex 250cc takes all 225lbs of me to speeds just over 80 mph...via GPS and still gives me 60 pluss mpg....
Mike
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Post by rockynv on Nov 22, 2011 12:25:39 GMT -5
According to Motorcycle USA the 0 to 60 times are:
2008 Aprilia Sport City 250 - 14 seconds 2008 Aprilia Scarabeo 200 - 13 seconds 2009 Genuin Rattler 110 - only gets to the mid 50's 2008 Yamaha Majesty 400 - 11 seconds
Unfortunately they are inconsistant in their review format and do not list zero to 60 times in all the reviews and can't if the bike dosn't get up to 60 unless you are going downhill or have a tail wind. The surprise was the the times for the 400cc Majesty were only a few seconds faster than the 200 and 250's making it only about 10 to 20% faster to get up to speed.
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Post by 2wheelxtreme on Nov 22, 2011 12:26:44 GMT -5
my 150cc on a nice day with a downdraft as a joke on interstate 64 east in my state i got it up to 73mph with a slight downdraft lol ; P
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Post by Pony66 on Nov 22, 2011 13:14:26 GMT -5
Yellow scooters are clearly the fastest.
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Post by mainepeace on Nov 22, 2011 14:08:11 GMT -5
I bet those times were measured with a G-Tech device which is even less accurate than a GPS phone app.
Greg
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Post by ce on Nov 22, 2011 15:37:10 GMT -5
Kymco Xciting 250
Goodbye.
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Post by imtb on Nov 22, 2011 16:53:07 GMT -5
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Post by 90GTVert on Nov 22, 2011 17:14:22 GMT -5
0-60 is kinda irrelevant if the poster really wants the fastest scoots. When dealing with scoots, cars, bikes, etc... fastest tends to mean MPH while quickest pertains to acceleration. I've got a scoot that goes 60 that will get to 60 with the wheel up quicker than one of my 70MPH scoots. So the 70MPH scoots are faster, but the 60MPH scoot is quicker. Not trying to be picky, just pointing that out for anyone that's unaware of this fact.
When dealing with similar displacement scoots, two-strokes are almost always quicker and faster. They tend to make more power for a given displacement, since they fire twice as often and they have less parts that leads to less weight and better throttle response. The problem with that is, as said, large 2Ts are pretty hard to come by these days.
Also remember that when you talk about some of the Vespa and Stella scooters, they are not CVT, but rather a manual gearbox. Not sure if that matters to you or not.
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Post by dkw12002 on Nov 22, 2011 17:57:38 GMT -5
Good point GTVert. In city traffic you are more interested in 0-35 mph or so getting off the line if you want to get out ahead of traffic and change lanes, etc. For me, with my city traffic, the 100 cc was the cutoff. Never with my 50 cc and almost never with my 100 would I try to get out ahead of traffic to change lanes as the light changed. I routinely do it with my 125 cc, 150 cc and 300 cc. unless of course someone is out to race me. Tundra trucks it turns out are pretty fast off the line. For city traffic, a 100 cc is fast enough or even a 2-stroke 50 cc...if the traffic is heavy and the speed limits are 35 or less. Mordeth13 has a good video titled "How Fast is a 50 cc. scooter?" on YouTube. It turns out for Taiwan, it is fast enough. His is a 2-stroke though.
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