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Post by illwill420 on Aug 30, 2011 18:26:40 GMT -5
Hi folks! This isn't a tip or trick but I am looking for one. I put a new stem and tire on my scoot today and I can't get the bead to seat. I've tried using high compression and everything like bouncing it around and the like. Also took it to a local dealer here to see what they could do and they used the strap method and the starting fluid ignition method...and while it looked really cool,it still didnt work. I really need this fixed cause it is my only transportation. Anyone have any tricks for that?
I read somewhere that riding around on it will seat the bead,but I'm not too sure about that one. I've been workin on this all day and it's making me a bit agitated,so any tips or tricks would be greatly appreciated,thanks.
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Post by Premier Scooters on Aug 30, 2011 18:54:05 GMT -5
A ratchet strap around the tire should do it. Also removing the valve core from the valve stem will let the air into the tire faster. Then when it's seated you put the core back in.
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Post by illwill420 on Aug 30, 2011 23:05:03 GMT -5
Nope,they tried that at the scooter shop today,strap and a tire iron with the stem core out and a big honkin compressor doin its damnedest...no dice.
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Post by D-cat on Aug 30, 2011 23:16:44 GMT -5
The strap is what worked for me, but you have to have the tire bead "lubed" as well. Soapy water, or even Windex, something to wet the bead so it can catch the air. Expect to have to be moving the tire a bit too to try to get it to catch.
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Post by mbailey12001 on Aug 30, 2011 23:28:22 GMT -5
Soapy water and strap. I am asuming you you have a air compressor
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Post by noday on Aug 31, 2011 4:23:58 GMT -5
you are running out of options.
the tire sidewalls need more flexibility. the tire has been in storage with the 2 bead edges/side walls close together & taken a set in that position. you need to change that set.
heat helps... try putting the tire in the sun for a while. after it gets good and warm, bounce it a bit and put the strap back on.
if that does not work, take the tire back off the rim. then wedge blocks of wood between the 2 sides and leave in the sun for a full day. or you can use an inflated inner tube in the tire (no rim, just a tube)
another technique requires that the rim be bolted down.
you force one side to seat with a rubber mallet, then pull the tire up and inflate to seat the 2nd side.
the rub with this way is: you must have a stand that solidly holds the rim
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Post by illwill420 on Aug 31, 2011 17:15:06 GMT -5
Thanks guys,I ended up getting too aggravated and took it to a local scooter shop,turns out the tire...while being the right size,was apparently defective preventing a seal. He put a different tire of the same size on and it popped right on,no issues,s apparently it was not my method,but the tire itself. Luckily I have the receipt and will be sending it back for a refund. Tho now I do have a different issue,but I'll be starting a new thread for that one.
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Post by mainepeace on Aug 31, 2011 20:59:34 GMT -5
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Post by ♣Luke♣ on Aug 31, 2011 23:35:48 GMT -5
greg,,,that's too dangerous,,gosh!! ....Katz will give you a minus points for that....bleh! LOL
but it sure works indeed.
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Post by ♣Luke♣ on Aug 31, 2011 23:39:21 GMT -5
The strap is what worked for me, but you have to have the tire bead "lubed" as well. Soapy water, or even Windex, something to wet the bead so it can catch the air. Expect to have to be moving the tire a bit too to try to get it to catch. D-cat that one really works...thanks for sharing.. ps: biut i notice you have a girly hands, and wearing a pink flowery sweater,hmmmm, made me think,...lol....anyway! ;D
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Post by TERRA NUVO on Sept 1, 2011 2:15:53 GMT -5
um, like d-cat you been kidding us!!!!
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Post by D-cat on Sept 1, 2011 15:19:47 GMT -5
That's my mother. She was kind of helping me and couldn't resist getting in the shot.
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Post by skuttadawg on Sept 9, 2011 23:47:48 GMT -5
I had rear tire come off the rim luckily was stopped already . I removed vavlestem and inflated but it never popped onto the rim like car tires do . Scooter tires are not made as good nor are they stiff enough to pop like car I found out . I tried holding tire and applying pressure and no good . Finally I had a buddy wrap a strap around tire and made sure bead was inside rim .I inflated and it held and was blowing air out of the stem . I quickly inserted vavle and adjusted the tire pressure . All other attempts it never held enough air to exit out of the stem .My 10s are tubless and I think some have innertubes not sure of which do . Always check air pressure monthly and when the outside temp changes . If you can nitrogen to inflate your tires ( its pricey ) temps wont affect it as much and a blowout will be a poof instead of bang . Nitrogen is inert and not flamable like oxygen is
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Post by skuttadawg on Sept 27, 2011 22:25:39 GMT -5
Well once again I had the rear tire come off the rim and had to have someone hold a cable around it so I could wiggle it to hold the air . This was on ten inch wheels . I know have 16 inch I hope they are easier to change when its time to do so . I think I am going to buy a ratcheting strap like in thread above . I know steel wheels can get bent or warped making the tire not fit correct as well as imperfect tire compared to automotive tires . I now check my tire psi weekly and when the temperature has varied like a cold front etc . I am going to get my tires filled with nitrogen gas instead of air . Nitrogen is not affected by temperature like air , and its inert meaning no explosion if a blowout happens . Truckers and racecars have used it for years since safer and better tire wear
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