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Post by scoota spry on Aug 19, 2011 22:15:34 GMT -5
ok thanks.....and how often should i keep the oil changed? and does it matter if its 10-30 or 10-40 I do run it pretty hard sometimes...
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Post by car6car on Aug 19, 2011 22:27:15 GMT -5
Any auto oil is fine.
there is something to consider:
air-cooled bikes run much hotter, so oil gets thinner when hot.
That is why Harley recommends straight 60 oil for summer.If temperature of cylinder head reaches 300-350F, (it can be checked by "laser" thermometer), I am pretty sure 20W50 should be used.
I'll try to check temperature next time I ride my scooter.
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Post by TERRA NUVO on Aug 20, 2011 4:37:18 GMT -5
at the least 40 wt.
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Post by scootdudeman on Aug 20, 2011 4:53:38 GMT -5
^^^I'm with Earthman.
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Post by car6car on Aug 20, 2011 9:26:18 GMT -5
Did anybody try 20W50?
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Post by ootscoot on Aug 20, 2011 9:40:15 GMT -5
We use 15W40 diesel oil in our Chinese scoots. We do not use synthetic in the Chinese bikes - from our experience, we have found that the synthetic has a tendency to leak with the looser tolerances.
Our Taiwan bikes like the SYM with the ceramic coated cylinder, uses a Castrol Synthetic 10W40 - tighter tolerances...
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Post by Scooter Elements on Aug 20, 2011 9:53:05 GMT -5
I would also like to know if anyone has ever used 20W-50 oil? I have a gallon of this oil at my store and i am thinking about using it in my scoot. Attachments:
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Post by sprocket on Aug 20, 2011 11:15:21 GMT -5
No...50 grade is too thick for the GY6 engine oil pump...
15W40 is the maximum viscosity you should use...
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Post by Scooter Elements on Aug 20, 2011 11:26:46 GMT -5
No...50 grade is too thick for the GY6 engine oil pump... 15W40 is the maximum viscosity you should use... Good to know! Thanks! |
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Post by mez on Aug 20, 2011 17:43:57 GMT -5
I am using Valvoline VR1 Racing Formula SAE 20W-50 with no issues. Go the oil free with rebate awhile ago. Cars don't use that oil.
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Post by darknight73 on Aug 20, 2011 17:53:26 GMT -5
I'm currently using 5w50t6 rotella full synthetic. oil in the head in seconds when i did the valvecover
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Post by sprocket on Aug 20, 2011 17:55:51 GMT -5
I use Castrol 4T motorcycle oil 10W-40 dino... the only oil to reduce engine temperature by 10 degrees
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Post by darknight73 on Aug 20, 2011 18:01:45 GMT -5
side note.. what kinda temp should we/I be seeing optimally? i get 140 ish temp gunning my cooler after a 1.5 mi beatdown
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Post by car6car on Aug 21, 2011 10:09:56 GMT -5
I will use 20W50 next time, but I live in FL, so Alaska guys, don't!  |
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Post by ernie on Aug 23, 2011 17:42:41 GMT -5
Hi folks! I'm new to this forum and would like to throw in my 2 cents worth. This is my 45 year riding. I have 3 asian scoots a 50cc,2 150cc, and a Suzuki c50, our cars are both Hondas. I use the same oil in all of them and have done so forever. Rotella 15-40 wt dino. If you take the time to research it on Bob is the oil guy and Blackstone labs you you will see why. People use it in Harleys and lawnmowers. A person that owns a 300,000 $ Kenworth would not use it if it was not about the best there was. Research! Ernie
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Post by hexnut on Aug 23, 2011 18:11:47 GMT -5
Yeah, its what I use in my scooter as well. never any issues.
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Post by 13lky2 on Aug 24, 2011 13:05:30 GMT -5
Just a little Rotella vs Amsoil comparison. I personally like Amsoil, just throwing this out there(the study was conducted by Amsoil so keep that in mind).
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Post by ernie on Aug 24, 2011 13:16:36 GMT -5
I do agree. Amsoil is great. The big difference is price. I use sooo much oil in all my toys that price counts. Did I mention I change the oil in my little scoots every 300 miles because of no oil filters. The screen of course will filter out a stray cat if one gets sucked up in!
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Post by hexnut on Aug 24, 2011 13:53:09 GMT -5
Amsoil is really good oil but...
Amsoil is a small company with only blending facilities, they don't have refineries to produce synthetic base stock oils.. Who do they buy these pao base stock oils from???
Their major supplier of PAO base stock is Exxon/Mobil, the largest producer of synthetic oils in the world. They purchase some Group III base stocks from Shell, Petro Canada, and others. About 90% of their additive packages come from Lubrizoil.
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Post by ernie on Aug 24, 2011 18:38:50 GMT -5
I thought I was the only one who loved to research oil. Cool!
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Post by sprocket on Aug 24, 2011 18:42:59 GMT -5
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Post by 13lky2 on Aug 25, 2011 7:53:23 GMT -5
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Post by ♣Luke♣ on Aug 25, 2011 8:53:46 GMT -5
yeah, i use 20w50 during summer,when temp is really high...but never on winter...i use 40w thingy on winter |
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Post by sprocket on Aug 25, 2011 11:34:52 GMT -5
The 20W is the winter viscosity.. the 50 is the high engine heat viscosity... winter or summer the high heat viscosity is meaningless...
The winter rating is the viscosity when the oil is in the sump. You want a thinner multigrade oil in 0 degree F weather than in 80 degree F weather so the starter motor can crank the engine more easily...
As the temperature of the engine rises the viscosity thickens...winter or summer...
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Post by hexnut on Aug 25, 2011 11:42:54 GMT -5
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Post by sprocket on Aug 25, 2011 11:46:35 GMT -5
Yup in northern Canada they never shut off their engines in winter...the oil thickens so much that it stalls the starter motor... then you need to heat the oil pan with propane torches...
Lots of fun...
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Post by hexnut on Aug 25, 2011 11:51:23 GMT -5
Just what I said...oil is thick when cold and thin when hot.
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Post by sprocket on Aug 25, 2011 11:54:58 GMT -5
It doesn't matter WHAT oil you use.. what matters is how often you change it in a GY6 engine...
If you wanted added protection.. add a rare earth magnet onto the oil filter spring...stops metal particles from reticulating around the engine...or use a drain plug with a magnet...
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Post by hexnut on Aug 25, 2011 12:00:06 GMT -5
Been using a magnet on my truck for 7 years and on the scooter since I got it.
We have beat this to death...any name brand oil 10W40 or 15W40 will work just fine. Just change it regularly and sleep well...
Now I am going out to get some ethanol free gas in the scooter..
have a good one.
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