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Post by leeinark on Apr 20, 2011 10:55:18 GMT -5
Mike and others. I just tore apart the front of the Magnum and the 2 low beam bulbs are 55 watt H1s...the two high beams are 55 watt H7s. Those numbers are also stamped on the back of the housing that holds the bulbs in place so I must assume the manufacturer intended those four bulbs. The little running light just above the high beams is a wedge style bulb rated at 5 watts. I am going to replace my 55 watt low beams with 35 watt HID and I've also ordered LED 2.5 watt wedge running lights. The dash itself is already all LED so there is no improvement there to make. I'm sure in a year or so someone will be making a 35 watt LED low beam replacement. On the ECO Forum someone had a write up of how to make your own LED headlights but I have enough to do so did not take that on. I'm hoping here that I use just a little less power to run my low beams all the time (a law in Arkansas...lights must be on). In the stock configuration with lights on I'm about even on the charge and draw equation...I would like to charge just a bit. Time will tell.
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Post by mike6736 on Apr 20, 2011 21:36:34 GMT -5
Lee I can't check the output and amps use on my Silver Bullet as my meter went bad and I have to look around to get one I want. But I do a lot of short runs and sone 30 mile or so rides and never have a problem. I think in time I will follow suit so keep records......haha
I still have something in the nose section that rattles....So I am going to open the head lamps and see if it is in there. Any idea what it could be?? Sure have stopped a lot but this one is killing me...
I think changing the lights to LEDs is a smart thing as they are brighter and that is safety....
Mike
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Post by Bluefront on Apr 21, 2011 4:11:15 GMT -5
Just a thought about your charging issue......you might change the high beams over to 35W halogen and run on the highs during the day. That would give you an extra 40W for the charge circuit.
Two 55w low beams should be plenty for night use.....
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Post by leeinark on Apr 21, 2011 11:52:37 GMT -5
Guys don't get me wrong I don't think I really have a tremendous charging issue. Even when I ride for a while I always have the power to start the trike...though I do admit it does seem weak. two 55 watt low beams, you are correct, are plenty, but they tend to be my issue (I think). Believe I'll acomplish the same thing by having two 35 watt low beams (70 total for low beam) and hanging on to my two 55 watt halogen high beams. Mike check to see if both of the little running lights (5 watt wedge style) are still in their sockets. The are located just outboard of the two high beams. Secondly (as dumb as this sounds) check that you don't have something in the 2 glove boxes that will rattle. Lastly your radiator fill bottle might be touching the top shroud of the fairing.
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Post by WildMan on Apr 21, 2011 12:05:36 GMT -5
leeinark
They do make a 35 watt low beam bulb for the Ice Bear... Back a little more than a year ago I wanted to replacement head light bulbs but didn't want to tear skin apart just to figure out what type of bulbs it took.. So I called Scooter Dynasty (my dealer), they wouldn't just tell me what type they were, but said they would send me a set, the price was right so I agreed... Come to find out when took it apart the bulbs in the trike were 55 watt bulbs high & low, which explained why the charging system was working so hard... When I looked at the replacements that Ice bear sent I seen they were 35 watt bulbs... Thought that was great!!! Proceeded to switch bulbs out, & just as I had hoped, the charging system was charging more than I was using, & I couldn't see much of a difference in the amount of light at night...
So I do recommend replacing both high & low beam bulbs... Not sure, but I believe there's a 2 wheel scoot that uses the same type head light bulb as the Ice Bear's low beam bulb, just not sure what the name of it is, but I'd recognize it if I seen it...
I think the low beam bulb is a H1 type...
David Sr.
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Post by leeinark on Apr 21, 2011 12:24:11 GMT -5
Dave Sr: You are correct the low beams are H1. High beams are H7. I believe I have found an LED that will fit for the low beams. See my other post.
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Post by mike6736 on Apr 21, 2011 22:51:07 GMT -5
I got hit today Lee, had to jump her 18 miles out.....Gonna replace the battery in the AM and check into LED running lights. Are these running light on top outer side of the high beams?? I can not see them but if they are I'll open her up again...nummer but that would solve my problem...Still, gonna fet a new battery.
I raised the rear deck with 1/2 one sided tape and used some pipe insulation on the bottom under the trike plastic that was flappen in the wind at 60 pluss miles per hour...Yup Lee she will cruse at 66 and sounds good, O have taken the Bullet (GPS and me @228lbs) to 68 but I need to ride her more yet to really get the feel, still had trottle but I think that was that.
She is rattle free like a fine lady and running like a top, ot the battery issue and hope the running lites are there and away we goooo..
Mike
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Post by mike6736 on Apr 21, 2011 22:56:55 GMT -5
I got hit today Lee, had to jump her 18 miles out.....Gonna replace the battery in the AM and check into LED running lights. Are these running light on top outer side of the high beams?? I can not see them but if they are I'll open her up again...nummer but that would solve my problem...Still, gonna fet a new battery.
I raised the rear deck with 1/2 one sided tape and used some pipe insulation on the bottom under the trike plastic that was flappen in the wind at 60 pluss miles per hour...Yup Lee she will cruse at 66 and sounds good, O have taken the Bullet (GPS and me @228lbs) to 68 but I need to ride her more yet to really get the feel, still had trottle but I think that was that.
She is rattle free like a fine lady and running like a top, ot the battery issue and hope the running lites are there and away we goooo..
Paper and gloves an a pair of glasses wraped in cloth is all I put in the little boxes...should say rattle traps...IB should put the filler coolant in the right box for easy access, I may solve that if I find I have to get into it often.
Mike
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Post by edfr on Apr 21, 2011 23:04:27 GMT -5
Mike,
Didn't I tell you that Silver Streak would cruise 60-65 with no sweat.
So What happened that you had to jump it? Isn't it charging or did you have the Headlights on it all the time. sh!t just use the Side Running Lights and don't put on the Headlights that is what I do.
Lefty
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Post by leeinark on Apr 22, 2011 8:30:02 GMT -5
Lefty: The running lights are hard wired into the low beam lights. So when you turn the lights on you get 2 X 5 watts running lights and 2 X 55 watts H1 Low beam bulbs. Mike yes the bulbs are just above and to the outside of the high beams. They are the 5 watt wedge lights. There are 2 kind of LED lights that can replace them. Regular LED and a high intensity LED (which I recommend). Unfortunately I already ordered 35 watt HID Low beams to replace my original 55 watt low beams... however these may just work out fine. Otherwise I may have to buy the H1 LED replacements. Mike I would go ahead and get either a volt gauge or an ammeter gauge just to give you a feeling of electric "happenings" before your battery drains. I notice on mine as the voltage goes down while riding with lights on that it will dip considerably. When it does I shut the lights off for awhile and the voltage shoots back up to 14.4 or so. It keeps me out of trouble I think. If you remember (from previous post) I bought that gauge off ebay and it really looks good and works great. If you have a dremel tool you can custom fit it right into the dash.
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Post by mike6736 on Apr 22, 2011 8:38:19 GMT -5
That is correct, and I run with the lows on for safetynit the law...Yes new battery and new meter today and to see if I can get some local 35watts for running lights..
Yes Lefty she does run and Silver Bullet is her name..
Mike
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Post by leeinark on Apr 22, 2011 8:44:40 GMT -5
Mike I know you can get regular 35 watt bulbs to fit but I believe the new 35 watt HIDs use even less amperage. Research a lot before you fork out the money.
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Post by mike6736 on Apr 22, 2011 21:38:18 GMT -5
Thanks Lee, I am gonna waite seee how it helps you
Mike
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Post by mike6736 on Apr 23, 2011 21:06:57 GMT -5
LEE, I took a 5 hour ride today with my wife on board, and 63mph cruise part way. I unpluged both high beams and ran just the small bulbs for runners. I checked voltage this AM 20 min after float charger removed @ 13.3 volts. Just checked voltage after a days trip and is 12.7. If I ever need to drive at nite I just reach down and plug them in. Right now works good for me and I always have loud horn an GPS on board.
Now if the gear box will just hold out till IB sends replacement....getting up on 65 once and there was a slip but no grind...couple times today. Ride was noon to 6PM only 87 miles and many stops and sights, lunch, beach stops to cool off relax, and I am apple red....
I should had retired 20 years ago, were did I ever find time to work??
Mike
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Post by leeinark on Apr 24, 2011 19:38:39 GMT -5
Ok Mike I'm confused. So you disconnected the high beams? Why? If you are running with low beams and running lights, disconnecting the high beams would make no difference on your amperage use or the reading on the volt meter (because they are not on and therefore not drawing current). Even with stock configuration and an electric fuel pump I don't think I get down to 12.7 volts. Glad your trike is running so well though mechanically.
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Post by edfr on Apr 24, 2011 21:22:18 GMT -5
Lee,
he checked the bulbs are 55W so he disconnects them so the ony lights that are on are the two little running lights on the side of the bigger lights. They way his work you put on the lights and the lights come on as well as the two little ones on each side.
Lefty
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Post by mike6736 on Apr 24, 2011 22:08:13 GMT -5
Lee is correct.....I said high beams, I should have said I disconnected the low beams....Now when I turn on low beams only the two small wedge lamps come on and I use for running lights. Still have high beams and pass button. If I were to use the trike past sundown, I just pop off the lamp boots and plug back in....I do bo not drive at night...
Now after todays ride battery voltage @ 12.3 volts yet charges at over 14 volts so may have to check that battery again..
Lee I am very interested in the reserch of LED"s and the changes you are and have made in the lights on your Magnum. I am going to learn from you an follow some lED upgrades but not till later this summer. Might wait till I go to Fort Smith, is so cool under that old oak tree in August and my sons help, yuppers....
Mike
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Post by leeinark on Apr 25, 2011 8:18:18 GMT -5
Ok Mike pulling low beams now makes sense to me. I'm thinking that by changing out the little wedge lights (2X5 watts) with LED style (2X1.5 watts) and changing the 55 watt low beams (110 watts) to 35 HID (70 watts), I should change the amps used vs charged by a fair amount...though I have no idea how to compute the change! If I'm not happy with that change my final solution will be to change the low beams to complete LED but they may not be enough to drive at night. I too rarely if ever drive it at night. I will eventually change the rear brake and running to LED as well. I will try to keep track of the changes per installation so someone else might gain from the experience.
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Post by rstone88 on Apr 25, 2011 13:17:36 GMT -5
Getting ready to PDI new Trike tomorrow on an Upgraded 300cc Magnum. Does this pertain to me???
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Post by edfr on Apr 25, 2011 14:11:30 GMT -5
Rstone88,
It all depends if when you put the headlights on it discharges your battery. They swap stuff on these things all the time they may have upgraded it with a better stator or rectifier or changed out the bulbs who knows. You won't know until you ride it and check it out.
Lefty
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Post by rstone88 on Apr 25, 2011 15:34:26 GMT -5
I am hoping that this upgraded model has all the kinks worked out. I did download the PDI list on-line. It looks like it is going to take me 3 days just to tear it down. Replace everything with American. Lock tite it all, and change to American Fuses. Basically do exactly what the Mechanic would do. Then hopefully these horror stories will not happen to me. Plus I am so confused as to what will come in this box. I see some with a reverse on the handle and some with it on the side. I have no idea?  |
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Post by leeinark on Apr 26, 2011 13:20:17 GMT -5
Rstone88: I too have the upgraded Magnum. All this I'm doing may not even be required. I'm the kind of guy that can't leave anything mechanically stock. My opinion (and probably Mike's too) is that the stator is really not strong enough to keep the battery charged well. If you live in a state that requires you to run your headlights while driving you may want to pay attention to this thread. The high beams use 110 watts...the low beams also use 110 watts. In my opinion our Magnum stators work very hard to keep up with the electrical demand. By changing out the high amperage demand bulbs on this trike with low demand LED type I hope to conserve a little electrical energy and there for extend the life of my stator etc...and to be able to run accessories (GPS) off of my lighter plug.
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Post by beejcctx on Apr 26, 2011 21:35:24 GMT -5
I honestly cannot tell if I have an upgraded Magnum or a Compeller disguised as a Magnum - my main paperwork and the crate says "Magnum" - but I have the external shifter.
Any - leeinark, what lighter plug? Where is that hiding? THANKS!
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Post by edfr on Apr 26, 2011 22:24:58 GMT -5
Beejcctx,
I believe he means he either put one in or will put one in so he can plug in his GPS or a Cigeratte lighter ;D.
Lefty
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Post by mike6736 on Apr 26, 2011 22:42:36 GMT -5
I saw a picture of a magnum with the side shifter some were, mine is on my risers. If you want a service plug you have to install yourself....
It is so simple to tell the 2 trikes apart.....I know if I paid for one and got the other !@#$%!....but than I was on my way to the store...got to the door...
who said dattt..
Mike
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Post by beejcctx on Apr 27, 2011 21:10:05 GMT -5
Lefty - thanks!
Mike - honestly wasn't expecting the one I did get, not really liking the stick shift by my leg, but will live with it.
Just got my plate today, inspection on Saturday then I can start a'scootin'!
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Post by beejcctx on Apr 27, 2011 21:11:47 GMT -5
Leeinark,
Do you have a suggestion on a circuit in the rear of the Magnum that would also be tied into the Ignition? I want to hook up my cheapo spanglish instruction stereo to something...preferably NOT having to fish wire throughout the scoot to actually get to the ignition.
Much thanks in advance!
-- Beejcctx
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Post by leeinark on Apr 28, 2011 7:51:14 GMT -5
Yes sir I do. The easiest place if you want one in the rear (so to speak) is to wire directly to the battery under the rear seat. I would put in a toggle switch (one with a light to advise you that the power is on is best) inline to the accessory. If you have a dremel it is very easy to cut out the right amount of material to insert a power switch wherever is most convenient for your location. You can run the line inside the storage area using a car type insulation plastic hose and plastic "keepers" to keep the wiring out of the way and from flopping around. As far as a connection in the rear that goes to the ignition I am not aware of one with a large enough gauge of wire to handle a raadio. Search the trike forum here for my picture of my installed volt gauge...it was wired direct to battery and now has an on/off switch so as not to deplete my battery power.
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Post by leeinark on Apr 28, 2011 7:55:29 GMT -5
beejccts: search under "More magnum rack pixs" and expand up on the picture and look on the dash just below the handlebars.
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Post by edfr on Apr 28, 2011 11:49:00 GMT -5
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